ACCUSED THESE REALLY FORCE OF INTENTIONALLY KILLING HER. AN ACCUSATION THE COLLIE BLATANT LIE. BUT WE BEGIN WITH THE CONVERSATION OVER GUN CONTROL. CRITICS SAY THAT BIDEN IS NOT DOING ENOUGH TO ADDRESS THE TRAGEDY IN UVALDE, AND GUN CONTROL AMONG GROWING CALLS TO DO SO. ALL OF THIS AS PROTESTS GATHERING IN HOUSTON, WITH FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, AND OTHER PROMINENT REPUBLICANS, ARE SET TO SPEAK AT THE CONVENTION OF THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION TODAY. TO DISCUSS, LET'S BRING IN MARY ALICE PARKS, AND RACHEL SCOTT. AND ERIC ASSIGNMENT FROM ABC TV STATION IN HOUSTON. WELCOME, ALL RACHEL LET ME BEGIN WITH YOU. YOU ARE HOUSTON AT THE NRA PROTEST, WE ARE HEARING BEYOND YOU THERE. WALK US THROUGH WHAT YOU ARE HEARING AND SEEING. , WELL TERRY WE ARE THREE MILES AWAY FROM EOVALDI AND THIS IS A SCENE THAT WE DON'T THINK WE WOULD SEE PLAY OUT THE NRA. CONVENTION YOU HAVE PROTESTERS LINING THE STREETS, AND ON THE OTHER SIDE JUST OVER HERE, YOU SEE THE POLICE. THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN FRONT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THE CONVENTION KICKS OFF TODAY THIS IS A SCENE WHERE YOU HEAR PEOPLE SEEING SAYING, IT COULD'VE BEEN YOUR GRANDCHILDREN. SAYING SHAMAN. YOU DO NOT GO. INSIDE >> THESE PEOPLE OUT HERE, ARE FEELING THE WHAT'S OPEN AIR CONCERT. FUELING THE OUTRAGE FROM THAT MASS SHOOTING THAT KILLED 19 CHILDREN. 19 CHILDREN, AND TWO TEACHERS. JUST THREE MILES AWAY, IN UVALDE TEXAS. AND INSIDE, WE TALKED TO GUN OWNERS WHO SAID THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE GUNS ARE THE ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY. BUT I WILL TELL YOU TO TERRY, THAT THE MAJORITY PEOPLE THAT WE DID TALK TO INSIDE ATTENDING THIS CONVENTION, WHO ARE NA NRA MEMBERS THEMSELVES THEY SAY THAT THEY DO HAVE TO PASS SOME SWIPE OF REFORM, SOME TYPE OF CHANGE. AND WE KNOW AND OUR POLLS SHOW THAT. 89% OF AMERICAN SUPPORT EXPANDED BACKGROUND CHECKS. FOLKS THAT I TALKED TO INSIDE, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT I TALKED TO FILES THEY WOULD BE FOR THAT AS WELL. AND THEY ASKED THE SAME QUESTION THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE ASKING OUT HERE, HOW DID SUCH A YOUNG PERSON GET SUCH A POWERFUL WEAPON, TERRY? >> HOW DID SOMEONE WHO IS SO YOUNG, AND TO IT ALSO POSTED CONVERSATIONS ABOUT VIOLENT THREATS, AND POSTED CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW HE HAD TORTURED AND KILLED ANIMALS, HOW DID THAT I WALK IN AND GET THAT KIND OF A GUN? LET ME NOW TURN TO ERICA. SO ERICA, THE WHOLE COUNTRIES HARDEST BREAKING, AND AS RACHEL RIGHTLY SAYS, WE ARE ALSO OUTRAGED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. HOW ARE TEXANS RESPONDING TO THIS CONVENTION, AND THE TRAGEDY IN UVALDE. WELL CERTAINLY TEXAN SURE THE HEARTBREAK THAT SO MANY AMERICANS AND PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD SHARE. WE UNFORTUNATELY HAVE BEEN HOME TO SEVERAL MATT SCHOOL SHOOTINGS. SANTA FE A FEW YEARS AGO, EOVALDI NOW. IT IS TOUGH TO KEEP GOING THROUGH THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BABIES. INNOCENT DEFENSELESS CHILDREN WHO ARE SIMPLY SENT TO SCHOOL THAT DAY TO LEARN SHE TEACHERS, WHO HERMETICALLY SHIELD. ADAMS WITH A TOUGH SPOT FOR PARENTS OF PEOPLE THE COMMUNITY THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION FROM PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES HERE. WE ARE IN DOWNTOWN HOUSTON AS. WE'LL BE CAN REALLY SEE THE PASSION ONLINE. YOU CAN HEAR IT ON THE STREETS, THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH SIGNS. AND AT THIS POINT, SINCE WE HAVE TOUCHED THAT DEMOGRAPHIC, CHILDREN A LOT MORE PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING OUT WHO NORMALLY MAY NOT HAVE PREVIOUS ITERATIONS. AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR CHANGE. EVERYONE MAY NOT KNOW WITH THAT EXACT SOLUTION MAY LOOK LIKE, BUT THEY AGREE SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MESSAGING ME ALL WEEK, WE'VE SEEN IT ON A LOT OF OUR SOCIAL PAT PLATFORMS, OUR VIEWERS HAVE BEEN WEIGHING IN. BUT IT IS A SOLEMN WEEK. MANY OF US HAVE TO TAKE A BEAT AND PROCESS YET ANOTHER TRAGEDY, AND THEN CHANGE FROM TRAGEDY AND GRIEF TO ACTION. WHAT IS NEXT. AND THAT IS WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE HERE BEHIND US. THEY ARE WANTING TO HOLD LEADERS ACCOUNTABLE AND ASK WHAT IS NEXT. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT FOR THE TEXAS IS NOT AGAIN IN THE SPOTLIGHT WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL SHOOTING. >> AMERICA, THIS MANDARIN, THIS IS THE FIFTH MASS SHOOTING ON TEXAS GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT'S WATCH. IT IS HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF KICKS ESSENTIAL DINNER PARTICULAR. AND I WANT TO ASK ABOUT HIS ROLE IN THIS. HE CANNOT YESTERDAY WITH THAT PRESS CONFERENCE, WHICH ENDED UP BEING A ISSUE OF FALSEHOODS. A LITANY OF FALSEHOODS WHETHER INTENTIONAL OR UNINTENTIONAL, WE DON'T. NOW BUT CERTAINLY WHEN HE SAID WAS FLAT OUT FALSE. AND I GUESS THAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK IN PERSON TO THE NRA, BUT HE HAS BACKED OUT OF THAT. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF GREG ABBOTT'S ROLE RIGHT NOW, WHEN IS HE GONNA DO WITH THE CONVENTION, AND HOW TEXANS ARE PERCEIVING IT? >> LISTEN TERRY, PEOPLE ARE FED UP. TEXANS ARE FED UP. NOW GOVERNOR ABBOTT HAS AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF SUPPORT, AND HAS HAD IT IN PREVIOUS YEARS. BUT AGAIN, THE SAME PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE BEEN SILENT IN THE PASSER SPEAKING OUT AGAINST GOVERNOR ABBOTT. THEY ARE SEEING, LOOK WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE MENTAL ILLNESSES IN THE COMMUNITY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN'T ALWAYS STOPPED RANGE PEOPLE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE BUCK STOPS WITH. YOU IT STOPS IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. IT STOPS IT STARTS AT THE TOP AND GOES DOWN. IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH POLICY AND IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH HOW YOU'RE PUTTING YOURSELF OUT THERE IN TERMS OF WANTING TO PRIORITIZE, PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN. AND OUR COMMUNITY. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT HE WAS SET TO SPEAK IN DOWNTOWN HOUSTON AT THE CONVENTION BUT HE CHOSE TO BE AT A NEWS CONFERENCE IN UVALDE TODAY. HE SENT THE PREWORK COURTED MESSAGE TO THE ATTENDEES SO THEY THEY WILL SEE HIM IN SOME FORM OR FASHION. OTHER LEADERS HAVE PULLED OUT. LIEUTENANT -- DOWN PATRICK SAYS HE WILL KNOCKING. TO HEAR SEVERAL OTHER TEXAS SENATORS WILL NOT BE HERE'S. WELL THERE ARE STILL SOME INSIDE HER SET TO DELIVER. OBVIOUSLY FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. TED CRUZ IN A NUMBER OF. OTHERS UNFORTUNATELY, THIS WEEK AT LEAST AS FAR AS THE POLLS, A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT HAPPY WITH GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT, AND TO YOUR POINT AND THOSE NEWS CONFERENCES, MANY FELT THAT HE JUST MISSED THE MARK TO BE HONEST. WE KNOW THAT INFORMATION COMES IN EARLY, AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T ALWAYS KNOW UP FRONT, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT TURNED OUT JUST TO BE DOWNRIGHT FALSE, AND SOME PEOPLE FELT THAT IT WAS ENOUGH ANTIQUE. IT WAS NOT GENUINE, AND THAT HE COULD'VE DONE A LOT BETTER, NOT ONLY COMFORTING A GRIEVING STAY, BUT ACTUALLY GETTING SOMETHING DONE GOING FORWARD AND LANDING UP SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AS FAR AS PASSIONATE PROTESTS GO. THEY SAY THEY WANT ANSWERS, NOW, TODAY. NOT FOR ANOTHER TRAGEDY, NOT FOR ANOTHER WEEK. RIGHT NOW. >> AND WE WILL SEE IF THEY GET THEM. WE ARE THIS ABC NEWS WASHINGTON POST POLL THAT RACHEL MENTIONED THEY FOUND THAT 89% OF AMERICANS SUPPORT UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS. 86% PRESENT TO SUPPORT THOSE RED FLAG LAWS. SO RACHEL, AS YOU WERE SAYING, HE'S FOCUS AT LEAST CONSERVATIVE LAWMAKERS ON THE ISSUE HERE IN WASHINGTON. I LOVE HIS CLUB, I WANT TO SEE IT. AGAIN THIS IS RACHEL SCOTT TRYING TO GET SOME ANSWERS HERE IN WASHINGTON. >> BUT IF THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SAY BACK ON? CHECKS >> MA'AM, I WONDER I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. OF YOU >> IT IS THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, SIR. >> I'LL PARENTS LOOKED AT HOW THEIR SCHOOLS ARE DOING FOR SCHOOL SAFETY. >> THE BACKGROUND CHECK -- WE TAKE AWAY. GUNS >> AND YOU WILL BE FINISHING IN? INTO OKAY YOU DO IT. >> YEAH, RACHEL, THEY SHOULDN'T LIKE BEING CONFRONTED WITH THOSE QUESTIONS AND GOOD FOR YOU FOR DOING. IT KEEP SWINGING AWAY. WE CAN SEE THAT LAWMAKERS MIGHT BE MEETING IN THE MIDDLE TO FIND A WAY, THEY SAY, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES. WHAT IS THE STATUS OF TRYING TO GET SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SUPPORT, GET THEM INTO FEDERAL LAW? >> WELL TERRI, I WILL PREFACE BY SAYING THAT WE HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN HERE -- THERE'VE BEEN MASS SHOOTINGS HERE BEFORE THE UNITED STATES. AFTER HAPPENED, THERE IS A MOMENT, THERE'S A PERIOD WHERE LAWMAKERS -- . YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE SHOUTING [INTERPRETER] . AND THEY START TALKING ABOUT IT, THE BIG QUESTION IS, WHAT CAN ACTUALLY GET DONE AS A -- . DEMOCRATS, [INTERPRETER] TEN REPUBLICANS AT LEAST IN ORDER TO PASS GUN LEGISLATION, OR ANY LEGISLATION. AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY DO NOT [INTERPRETER] . BUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT, [INTERPRETER] THEY HAVE A FAIRLY STARTED TO TALK. THEY HAVE A BIPARTISAN [INTERPRETER] . SEVERAL SENATORS ARE HAVING IS NEGOTIATIONS. BUT THEY BUFFER RECESS. FOR TEN DAYS. AND SO NOW WE HAVE A MOMENT IN TIME WHERE WE ARE FACING THE SAME QUESTION AGAIN, WHAT WILL CHANGE? WHAT WILL HAPPEN? WELL LAWMAKERS MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE? . [INAUDIBLE] NOT ONLY FOR THEMSELVES, BUT FOR THE FUTURE. AND MANY OF THE SCIENCE BEHIND WHERE ABOUT THE KILLINGS. IT IS ABOUT THE CHILDREN. THIS IS A MOMENT IN OUR NATION 'S HISTORY RIGHT NOW WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE ARE ASKING [INAUDIBLE] . >> WHAT WILL CHANGE. THAT IS THE QUESTION RIGHT NOW. AND THE FACT THAT THESE WERE CHILDREN WERE SLAUGHTERED I THINK HAS DRIVEN EVERYBODY TO THE BREAKING POINT. WE'LL SEE IF IT MEANS ANYTHING. MARY ALICE, PRESIDENT BIDEN IS EXPECTED TO VISIT UVALDE ON SUNDAY, SO WHAT IS THE LATEST FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. >> YEAH HE IS PLANNING TO MEET WITH VICTIMS. VICTIMS FAMILIES. COMMUNITY LEADERS. I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS EXPECTING A NEW POLICY PROPOSAL FROM THIS WHITE HOUSE ANYTIME SOON. WE HAVE HEARD THE PRESIDENT TALK ABOUT WHERE HE STANDS ON THIS ISSUE. HE IS FOR SWEEPING REFORMS. HE HAS PITCHED THINGS LIKE A BAN ON ASSAULT RIFLES. I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE IS HOLDING THEIR BREATH FOR CONGRESS TO PASS ANYTHING SO BAD FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT THINGS ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW AND THE SENATE ARE MUCH MORE NARROW, MUCH MORE MODEST IN SCOPE BUT THE LINE WE HEAR FROM DEMOCRATS IS FINE LET IT BE ANYTHING. ANYTHING. BUT THEY ARGUE IS THAT, DO NOTHING HASN'T HELPED. WE KNOW THE GUN VIOLENCE IS ONLY ON THE RISE, MATTHEWS ONLY BECOMING MORE. FREQUENT SO OFTEN WE HEAR FROM DEMOCRATS, DON'T LET THE PERFECT BE THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD. PASS ANY KIND OF SMALL RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD MAKE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO GET THEIR HANDS ON THESE WEAPONS OF. WE'RE >> THAT DEBATE HAS BEEN STYMIED, BEFORE IT DOES FEEL LIKE IN THIS