Transcript for ABC News Live: Texas officials admit wrong decision surrounding Uvalde shooting
>> AMERICA'S NUMBER ONE NEWS,
ABC NEWS. HELLO EVERYONE, I'M
TERRY MORAN.
NEW AWFUL DETAILS COMING IN
ABOUT THE MASSACRE AT ROBB
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN UVALDE,
TEXAS.
19 CHILDREN DEAD, MOST OF THEM
15 YEARS OLD OR YOUNGER.
PARENTS IN THE COMMUNITIES
STILL DEMANDING ANSWERS AND
ACTION FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT ON
WHAT HAPPENED.
THIS COMES AS OFFICIALS ARE NOW
TELLING A VERY DIFFERENT STORY
ABOUT HOW LONG IT TOOK OFFICERS
TO ENTER THE SCHOOL AND TRY TO
RESCUE THE CHILDREN.
AND HOW THE SHOOTER GOT IN.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHEN HE
SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENGAGED BY THE
OFFICERS ON THE SCENE.
LISTEN TO THIS.
>> WITH A BIT OF HINDSIGHT ON
WHERE I AM SITTING NOW, OF
COURSE IT WAS NOT THE RIGHT
DECISION.
IT WAS A WRONG DECISION.
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT.
BUT AGAIN, I WAS NOT THERE.
I AM TELLING YOU, FROM WHICH WE
KNOW, WE BELIEVE THE SHOULD'VE
BEEN INTERESTING AS YOU CAN.
WHEN THERE IS A MASS SHOOTER,
RULES CHANGE.
IT IS NO LONGER, OKAY, NO
LONGER BARRICADED.
WE DON'T HAVE TIME.
WE DON'T WORRY ABOUT MATTERS.
BY THE WAY, TEXAS EMBRACES
ACTIVE SHOOTER TRAINING, ACTIVE
SHOOTER CERTIFICATION.
AND THAT DOCTRINE REQUIRES --
WE DON'T CARE WHAT AGENCY YOU
ARE FROM.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A LEGAL
--
EVERY OFFICER LINES, UP GOES
AND FINDS WHERE THE GROUNDS ARE
BEING FIRED AT, AND KEEPS
SHOOTING UNTIL THE SUBJECT IS
THAT.
DEAD.
>> THAT DID NOT HAPPEN,
OBVIOUSLY.
BRINGING IN AARON KATERSKY,
WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT MARY
ALICE PARKS, AS WELL AS --
HE IS A FORMER SAN BERNARDINO,
CALIFORNIA, POLICE CHIEF.
I JUST WANT TO START WITH
AARON.
WE HAVE JUST HEARD THAT THE
TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY CHIEF, STEVE MCCRAW, SO
IT WAS WRONG TO NOT ENGAGE THE
SHOOTER ONCE HE WAS LOCKED IN
THE CLASSROOM.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW.
AFTER HEARING THESE NEW
REVELATIONS, WHAT?
ALL RIGHT, I WILL START WITH
YOU.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE, FOR SOME
REASON WE DID NOT HAVE YOUR MIC
UP.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW?
>> ONE BIG QUESTION, TERRY, I
THINK, WHAT LED TO THE INCIDENT
COMMANDER, HEAD OF THE UVALDE
INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT
POLICE DEPARTMENT, MAKE THE
DECISION TO WAIT 35 MINUTES
FROM THE TIME THE TACTICAL TEAM
ARRIVED ON SCENE, TO ACTUALLY
SEND THEM INTO BREACH THE
CLASSROOM?
WHAT MADE HIM ASSUME THAT HE
HAD TIME TO WAIT?
HE TRANSITIONED TO THE INCIDENT
FROM AN ACTIVE SHOOTER TO A
BARRICADED SITUATION.
AND, ACCORDING TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY,
BELIEVED THAT HE HAD TIME.
WHAT'S GAVE HIM THAT
INCLINATION THAT HE HAD TIME?
AND THAT THERE WERE NO MORE
CHILDREN AT RISK?
WHEN WE KNOW FROM 9-1-1 CALLS
THAT PEOPLE INSIDE A CLASSROOM
1:12 AND 1:11, THOSE ADJOINING
CLASSROOMS, WE'RE MAKING CALLS
PLEADING FOR HELP.
AND INFORMING OPERATORS THAT
THERE WERE, IN FACT, SHOTS
BEING FIRED.
IT WAS, AS A DEPARTMENT OF
PUBLIC SAFETY HEAD STEVE MCCRAW
SAID, NOT THE RIGHT DECISION.
>> THE RIGHT DECISION.
AND I WANT TO GO TO JARRED --
AS A FORMER POLICE OFFICER,
FORMER POLICE CHIEF OF A
SIZEABLE CITY.
SAN BERNARDINO, CALIFORNIA, I
JUST WANT YOUR REACTION TO WHAT
WE HEARD.
>> MY REACTION IS JUST
DISAPPOINTMENT.
WE TALK ABOUT LESSONS LEARNED
IN THIS BUSINESS.
WE TALK ABOUT THE LESSONS
LEARNED FROM ALL THE PREVIOUS
INSTANCES.
HOW TO HANDLE THEM, HOW TO
RESPOND, HOW TO MANAGE.
AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THERE
ARE A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED IN
THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT.
BUT WE SHOULD NOT BE HAVING
THIS CONVERSATION.
WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THESE, WE
KNOW HOW TO RESPOND, WE KNOW
WHAT TO DO.
IT JUST DOES NOT DONE IN THIS
CASE.
AND WE FEAR IN THE DAYS LEADING
UP TO THIS, AS THE MAYOR KEPT
EVOLVING THAT SOMETHING WAS
VERY WRONG, SOME THINGS WERE
NOT LINING UP, WHEN YOU
EVENTUALLY THIS WAS GOING TO
HAPPEN.
FROM MY OWN VIEWPOINT, WATCHING
THIS FROM WHERE I SIT, I WISH
WE WERE HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION TODAY'S.
AGO BECAUSE WE KNEW THESE FACTS
TWO DAYS AGO.
THINGS COULD'VE BEEN RESOLVED
IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS OF
PEOPLE HAD JUST BEEN
TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT.
>> A GOOD POINT.
THAT IS ON THE GOVERNOR.
TEXAS EITHER INTENTIONALLY OR
UNINTENTIONALLY, HE MISLED
TEXANS AND THE COUNTRY.
I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON
THAT.
OBVIOUSLY, A LAY PERSON, A
CIVILIAN, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
IT SOUNDS LIKE A TERRIFYING
RESPONSIBILITY.
WHEN THERE WAS AN ACTIVE
SHOOTER, YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE HIM
OUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
HERE.
AND THESE OFFICERS WERE STILL
HEARING GUNFIRE.
THE TIMELINE OF THE GUNFIRE
AFTER THEY BASS DOWN BACK DOWN,
THERE WERE STILL BEING SHOTS
FIRED IN THAT CLASSROOM.
AND I JUST WONDER, I GUESS IT
IS HUMAN.
ARE YOU SURPRISED THEY DID NOT
GO IN?
>> I AM SURPRISED, ACTUALLY, TO
BE HONEST WITH YOU.
SURPRISED FOR A NUMBER OF
REASONS.
SO, JUST A PERSONAL STORY.
I WAS A POLICE OFFICER.
AND I CAN REMEMBER HOW THAT
INCIDENT, GETTING THE FIRST BIT
OF TRAINING.
THERE WAS A SHIFT IN THE
MINDSET, WE HAVE THIS TRAINER
KILLING US.
SAFETY PROTOCOLS GOING OUT THE
WINDOW.
ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE BEEN
TRAINING ABOUT.
STAYING SAFE, SURROUNDING THE
PARAMETER, CALLING --
IN, THAT IS OUT THE WINDOW NOW.
IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
YOU DO NOT HAVE THE
RESPONSIBILITY.
AND YOU REALIZE YOU ARE NOT
GETTING THAT TRAINING IT WAS
VERY HARD TO MAKE SOMETHING
CLEAR.
AND THAT WAS THAT, YOU PUT ON
THE BADGE, IT IS YOUR
RESPONSIBILITY TO DO IT.
WE HOPE TO GOD YOU NEVER HAVE
TO DO IT, BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENS
YOU HAVE GOT TO RISE TO THE
MOMENT.
AND IN THIS CASE IT APPEARS
THEY DID NOT DO IT.
AND THIS FRIGHTENING.
IT DOES NOT SURPRISE ME THAT
THEY DID NOT DO IT.
WHAT REALLY SURPRISES ME IS
THAT YOU HAVE THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT POLICE CHIEF, WHO ONLY
HAS FIVE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR
HIM.
IT IS A VERY SMALL DEPARTMENT.
PROBABLY NOT CAPABLE IN ANY WAY
SHAPE OR FORM OF TRULY
RESPONDING TO SOMETHING LIKE
THIS EFFECTIVELY.
WHO IS RUNNING THE SCENE.
AND IT SURPRISES ME THAT HIS 19,
20, 14, 15 OFFICERS, IF
SOMEBODY ELSE DOES NOT TAKE
OVER AS ESSENTIALLY THE
COMMANDER AND MAKE A DIFFERENT
CALL.
I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT THEREOFFIT
THERE SAYING, WE ARE NOT DOING
THE RIGHT THING, WE HAVE TO GO
IN.
>> THAT IS A QUESTION.
THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN.
IT IS HUMAN NATURE.
THEY ARE CHILDREN, IT IS SHOTS
BEING FIRED.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, ESPECIALLY
AS YOU SAY, IF YOU ARE WEARING,
THAT YOU WANT TO GOING.
MARY ALICE YOU ARE COVERING THE
WHITE HOUSE FOR US.
WE KNOW THAT THE, WHITE HOUSE
THE FIRST LADY, ARE SET TO
VISIT THE VICTIM, AND THE
UVALDE COMMUNITY THIS WEEKEND.
THERE IS A STOP, AS THERE
ALWAYS HAS BEEN AFTER THE
SCHOOL SHOOTINGS AND SHOOTING
UP GROCERIES EVERY PLACE ELSE
IN AMERICA, THAT YEAH, TERRY,
WELL THIS TIME WE DO MAYBE YOU
SHOULD DO SOMETHING IN CONGRESS,
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?
HAVE ABOUT TEN MEMBERS OF THE
SENATE, A BIPARTISAN GROUP THAT
SAY THEY'RE GONNA WORK THROUGH
MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND ON TALKS.
THERE ARE THINGS LIKE UNIVERSAL
BACKGROUND CHECKS, AND RED FLAG
LAWS, THAT ARE EXTREMELY
POPULAR WITH THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE.
THAT ARE ON THE TABLE.
SO WE WILL SEE IF THEY REACH
SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT.
ANOTHER A LOT OF MY FELLOW
REPORTERS HERE IN WASHINGTON,
IT IS SO HARD BECAUSE WE'VE
JUST SEEN THIS BEFORE AND I
THINK IT DONE, THAT THE NEW
PATH.
I DO THINK THAT THIS
CONVERSATION GATHER HAVE-ING
NOW WILL PUT EVEN MORE
ATTENTION AGAIN ON JUST THE
STYLE OF WEAPON, THE TYPE OF
WEAPON.
WAS THAT A PART OF WHAT LED TO
SOME POLICE OFFICERS TO
HESITATE HERE, A FEAR THAT THEY
ARE JUST OUTGUNNED.
SO MUCH OF THE CONVERSATION IN
THE WHITE HOUSE, THE PRESIDENT
BIDEN LIKES TO BRING IT UP JUST
WIDE WE ALLOW FOR KIDS SO YOUNG
TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE SUCH
HEAVY WEAPONS OF WAR?
SO QUICKLY?
LARGE, BIG MAGAZINES IN BODY
ARMOR, AND ALL THE ACCESSORIES
OF WAR THAT GO ALONG WITH THESE
WEAPONS TO.
AND I IMAGINE THAT SOME OF THAT
WILL BE PART OF THE
CONVERSATION AT LEAST PART OF
THE QUESTION THAT THESE
LAWMAKERS ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO
FACE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THOSE EFFORTS IN THE PAST ABOUT
RESULTED IN VERY MUCH, ALL THAT
THEY DID OUTLAW THE
MODERNIZATION TO THE AIR RIFLES
IT MADE IT MORE LIKE AN
AUTOMATIC RIFLE.
AND AARON, THE SENSE WE GOT
FROM THAT PRESS CONFERENCE IS
THAT POLICE WERE WORRIED ABOUT
BEING OUTGUNNED, AS MORALES
JUST SAID.
THEY HAVEN'T SAID THAT, BUT IT
IS QUITE POSSIBLE AND WHAT DOES
THAT TELL YOU ABOUT AMERICAN
POLICING RIGHT NOW?
OH, TERRY, THEY ARE TRAINED TO
GO IN.
AND YOU HEARD DIRECTIONAL CROSS
SAY THAT TEXAS SUBSCRIBES TO
THE DOCTRINE THAT CHIEF BURKE
WHAT WAS DESCRIBING.
WHEN THERE'S AN ACTIVE SHOOTER,
YOU GO IN.
HERE ARE THE COMMANDER SEEM TO
BELIEVE THIS WAS NO LONGER AN
ACTIVE SHOOTER.
THERE ARE SO MANY AS 19
OFFICERS THAT WERE INSIDE THE
SCHOOL.
THE FIRST COUPLE WERE TAKING,
FIRE AND WERE HIT AND THEY HAD
TO RETREAT.
BUT THERE WERE OTHERS THAT WERE
THERE THAT DID NOT BREACH
LOCKED DOORS.
TERRY, THE POLICE ALSO I THINK
ARE FRUSTRATED AND THIS WAS
REFLECTED IN LACROSSE COMMENTS
TOWARDS THE END, THEY COULDN'T
STOP THE SHOOTER BEFORE HE EVEN
THOUGHT ABOUT BECOMING A SCHOOL
SHOOTER.
AND HE RELAYED THE SOCIAL MEDIA
POSTS THAT BEGAN IN SEPTEMBER
OF LAST YEAR, WHERE THE SUSPECT
APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN ASKING A
SISTER TO BUY HIM A GUN.
SHE REFUSED, BUT THEN A COUPLE
OF MONTHS LATER IN FEBRUARY OF
THIS YEAR WITH THE SUSPECT IS
STARTING TO BE DESCRIBED ON
SOCIAL MEDIA AS A POTENTIAL
SCHOOL SHOOTER.
THEN ON MARCH 3RD, I HEAR YOU
ARE BUYING A GUN.
THAT IS WORD ON THE STREET ONE
POSED TO HIM SAID.
MARCH 14TH, TEN MORE DAYS HE.
POLICE AND THE USER REPLIES,
ARE YOU GOING TO SHOOT UP A
SCHOOL?
SO THERE WERE THESE DIGITAL RED
FLAGS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN UNCOVERING.
JUST NOBODY WAS ABLE TO CONNECT
THE DOTS.
AND I WONDER, AND IF I CAN GO
BACK TO JARRED FOR A MOMENT ON
THIS, FIRST I SHOULD NOTE THAT
YOU AFTER THAT TRAINING DID
HAVE AN EXPERIENCE WITH A 2015
SAN BERNARDINO MASS SHOOTING
THERE.
AND SO, WE ARE DRAWING ON THAT
EXPERIENCE AS WELL.
THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT RED
FLAG LAWS.
THEY OPERATE A LITTLE
DIFFERENTLY THAN JUST SEARCHING
PEOPLE SOCIAL MEDIA BUT I
WONDER, AND I'VE SAID THIS,
BEFORE YOU GO ONLINE, YOU'RE
SHOPPING FOR SOMETHING, YOU
CLICK ON IT.
INSTANTLY YOU ARE GETTING ADS
AND ALL OF YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA
FEEDS, JUMP TEXT, EMAIL.
THEY TRACK, YOU THEY FLAG YOU
AND THEY SEND THAT INFORMATION
TO MERCHANTS.
WHY CAN'T THEY DO THAT IF
SOMEBODY IS TALKING ABOUT
SHOOTING UP SCHOOLS?
OR WHO HAD TORTURED AND KILLED
ANIMALS AND TALKED ABOUT I IT
ONLINE?
I JUST WONDER HOW MUCH THAT
MIGHT HELP FROM YOUR
PERSPECTIVE?
WILL >> I DON'T KNOW THE LOST
DICTATE WHAT IS SHARED OUTSIDE
OF THE MARKETING TIME, AND I
WILL TELL YOU FROM LAW
ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, WE
DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO ANY
DATABASES THAT SAYS THAT WHEN A
CERTAIN PERSON IS DOING TYPES
OF THINGS, OR SOMEBODY IS
ENGAGED IN, IT FROM LAW
ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT WHAT WE
ARE RELY ON IS THE PUBLIC OR
SOMEBODY BRINGING SOMETHING TO
US.
THE SIZE OF SOCIAL MEDIA, THE
SCOPE OF IT, THE MASSES OF
COMMUNICATION IS SOMETHING
BEYOND THE SCOPE OF INDIVIDUAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO BE
ABLE TO MONITOR.
WE RELY ON PEOPLE TO REPORT
THINGS TO US, AND THEN WE TAKE
IT UPON US TO TAKE CERTAIN
ACTIONS TO INTERVENE, TO HELP,
TO GET SOMEBODY OUT OF CRISIS
ORLANDO MENTAL HEALTH CARE
SYSTEM.
WE RELY ON THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
WHEN YOU WORK WITHIN THE
CONFINES OF THE TOOLS THAT WE
HAVE, BUT REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO
COME TO US AND SAY HEY I'M
REALLY CONCERNED.
THIS IS WHAT I'M SEEING, THIS
IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
AND IT APPEARS IN THIS CASE THE
FOLKS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN AWARE
OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE NOT
REPORTING IT TO LAW.
ENFORCEMENT AND THAT IS A VERY
GOOD EXPLANATION OF HOW LAW
ENFORCEMENT WORKS.
IT IS THE 21ST CENTURY AND WE
THERE ARE WAYS FOR THE SOCIAL
MEDIA COMPANY TO BRING OUT
SOMEBODY WHO MAKES A BAD JOKE
AND THEY GET BAND.
THEY CERTAINLY ARE WATCHING
EVERYTHING THAT IS ON THEIR
PLATFORMS AND YOU WOULD THINK
THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO
FILTER AND CHECK ON IT, THIS
KIND OF DANGEROUS ACTIVITY.
BUT I WANNA GO BACK TO MARY
ALICE.
ON THE NRA, SO FORMER PRESIDENT
TRUMP SAID THAT CHAD CRUISE OF
THE PROMINENT REPUBLICAN SAID
TO SPEAK AT THE AND AREAS
CONVENTION HOUSTON TODAY.
GREG ABBOTT, AND HIS LOSS HAVE
INFINITE GOVERNOR HAS CANCELED
A PLAN TO ATTEND BUT I GUESS
ABBOTT IS GONNA TRY TO ADDRESS
THE GROUP VIRTUALLY.
SO, THE TIMING HAS GOT TO BE
AWKWARD FOR THE NRA WITH, OR
MAYBE NOT.
SANDY HOOK, YOU NAME IT.
EVERY TIME YOU THINK THAT THERE
IS A SENSE THAT WE CAN'T GO ON
WITH THE GUN LAWS THAT WE HAVE,
AND THE GUN CULTURE THAT WE
HAVE, IT JUST ROLLS OFF THEIR
BACKS LIKE WATER OFF EJECTS
BACK.
SO TELL US ABOUT THE NRA
CONVENTION AND WHAT TO EXPECT?
>> HE, I THINK HE LAID OUT A
LOT OF IT.
WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM THESE
PROMINENT REPUBLICANS THAT ARE
STILL PLANNING TO SPEAK.
THERE'S A LOT OF POLITICAL
PRESSURE OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS
FOR THE NRA TO POTENTIALLY
POSTPONE, OR CANCEL.
AND SO, FAR NO INDICATION THAT
THERE REALLY SCALING BACK.
WE ARE EXPECTING QUITE A LOT OF
PROTESTERS, QUITE A LOT OF GUN
SAFETY ADVOCATES, TO MAKE SURE
THAT THEIR PRESENCE IS KNOWN AS
WELL.
BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.
IN A LOT OF WAYS THE NRA IS
ACTUALLY SORT OF MOVED THE
GOALPOSTS HERE.
THEY HAVE ANSWERED EVERY MASS
SHOOTING WITH A POLITICAL
ARGUMENT THAT MORE GUNS IS THE
ANSWER.
GUNS ALL THE TIME EVERYWHERE
UNFETTERED ACCESS.
AND IT HAS SHOWED ME TO HOW THE
POLITICAL PRESSURE THAT HAS
BEEN PUT ON SOME OF THESE
REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS TO REALLY
EXPAND THAT KIND OF ACCESS.
LIKE I AM THINKING, ABOUT I WAS
JUST THINK ABOUT THIS LAST
WEEKEND IN TEXAS.
NEW LAWS, FOR EXAMPLE HAVE
PERMANENT LIST CONCEALED CARRY.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE
ACTUALLY UNPOPULAR WHEN YOU
PULL SORT OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC,
BE UNPOPULAR AMONG GUN HOLDERS,
AMONG REPUBLICANS.
BUT THE SMALLEST SLIVER OF
EXTREMELY POLITICALLY ACTIVE
MEMBERS THAT HAVE CONTINUED TO
PUSH THESE, TO MAKE IT EASIER
FOR PEOPLE NOT ONLY TO BUY
WEAPONS, ANY WEAPONS, BUT TO BE
ABLE TO CARRY THEM AT ALL
TIMES.
EXACTLY, IT IS EXTREMELY
ENERGIZE BASE OF THE GUN RIGHTS
ADVOCATES WHO HAVE BLOCKED THE
MAJORITIES.
WE'LL 90 SOME PERCENT, UPWARDS
OF 97% OF AMERICANS WANT
UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS NOT
JUST FOR SALES BETWEEN THE
LICENSED DEALERS AND PRIVATE
INDIVIDUALS, BUT PRIVATE SALES
OF WHICH THEY'RE GREAT MANY IN
THE COUNTRY.
THE RED FLAG LAWS, AS.
WELL SO AARON, WHERE DOES THIS
INVESTIGATION GO NOW?
WHERE THEY LOOKING?
FOR >> I THINK THE EOVALDI
INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT
POLICE CHIEF, WHO IS THE
INCIDENT COMMANDER THAT WRONGLY,
THIS IS A BARRICADED SITUATION
TO POSE NO MORE THREAT TO
CHILDREN HAS A LOT TO ANSWER
FOR.
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY, EVEN STARTED DEFERRED
AND SAID YOU ARE WELCOME TO
REACH OUT AND CALL HIM.
I THINK THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE
CALLING.
AND WE WILL SEE WHETHER THIS
EVEN BECOMES A FEDERAL
INVESTIGATION, INTO THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE.
THERE ARE STILL A NUMBER OF
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TIMELINE
THAT POLICE WILL UNDOUBTEDLY
FILL IN.
BUT WE HAVE THE PICTURE NOW OF
WHY POLICE WAITED SO LONG.
IT WAS JUST AN ERROR IN
JUDGMENT, AND ONE THAT MAY WELL
HAVE COST CHILDREN THEIR LIVES.
>> IT IS HARD TO THINK ABOUT.
BUT AARON, WHAT IS THE FEDERAL
ROLE HERE?
>> WELL, THE FBI SPECIAL AGENT
IN CHARGE IN SAN ANTONIO SAID
THERE REALLY ISN'T ONE BEYOND A
SUPPORT ROLE.
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN CHARGE
OF THE SCENE.
BUT BEHIND THE SCENES, WE KNOW
THEY HAVE A WORKING WITH THE
TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY, TO TRACE THE WEAPONS,
TO LOOK AT THE BACKGROUND OF
THE SHOOTER.
THEY'VE OFFERED TECHNICAL
EXPERTISE.
WE ARE NOT SURE HOW MUCH TEXAS
TAKING THEM UP ON THIS, BUT WE
HAVE SEEN THE FEDS BEFORE TAKE
ON POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE
ACCUSED OF FEELINGS.
AND THEY CAN DO AN
INVESTIGATION INTO WHETHER
THERE IS A PATTERN, A PRACTICE
OF SYSTEMIC FAILURES LIKE THE
ONE THAT HOUSE SEEMS TO HAVE
OCCURRED HERE.
THEY CAN INTERVENE.
WE ARE NOT SURE IF CRIMINAL
CHARGES WOULD RESULT, OF
COURSE.
BUT THEY CAN REFORM POLICE
DEPARTMENTS SO THAT THEY DON'T
MAKE THESE KINDS OF MISTAKES.
>> WE HAVE TO OPEN THE FUTURE
THAT WE LEARN FROM THIS, AS
SHARED WITH.
WELCOME BACK.
THANK YOU FOR STREAMING WITH
US.
I AM TERRY MORAN, WE HAVE BEEN
COVERING THE DEVELOPING NEWS
OUT OF UVALDE, TEXAS WHERE 19
CHILDREN AND TWO TEACHERS WERE
GUNNED DOWN BY AN 18 YEAR OLD
WITH ASSAULT WEAPONS.
AND NOW, THE FACTS OF THAT
SITUATION ARE CHANGING.
A BRIEFING AT THE PRESS
CONFERENCE BY STEVE MCCRAW, HOW
DID THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT PUBLIC
SAFETY, REVEALS THAT THERE WERE
POLICE OFFICERS ON THE SCENE
WITHIN MINUTES.
FIRST, TWO, THEN FOUR, THEN
SEVEN, THEN 19.
AND THEY WAITED AND WAITED AND
WAITED SPREE.
WELL GUNSHOTS WENT OFF IN THE
CLASSROOM WHERE THE CHILDREN
WERE BARRICADING THEMSELVES.
AND AT THE MERCY OF THIS
SHOOTER.
IT IS A DISTURBING SERIES OF
REVELATIONS.
WHICH WE HAVE HAD ABOUT THIS.
AND IT COMES AS YET ANOTHER
TRAVELER IN THE AMERICAS PLAGUE
OF GUN VIOLENCE.
WHEN IT COMES TO TAKING ACTIONS,
MANY KIDS ARE NOT WAITING.
THERE ARE STUDENTS AT SCHOOLS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO HAVE
STAGED MASSIVE WALKOUTS
PROTESTING GUN VIOLENCE IN
POLITICS, AND THEY'RE SEEMING
INABILITY TO DO BASICALLY
ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE ON THE
FRONTLINES.
AND IN TOWARDS AMERICA GREAT
WITH THIS NEWS.
--
THE WASHINGTON POST POLL FOUND
THAT 89% OF AMERICANS SUPPORT
UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS ON
GUN PURCHASES.
THERE ARE NOT UNIVERSAL
BACKGROUND CHECKS RIGHT NOW.
86% SUPPORTED RED FLAG LAWS
THAT ALLOW COURTS TO
TEMPORARILY CONFISCATE WEAPONS
FROM PEOPLE DEEMED TO BE A
DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS.
IT IS HARD TO GET 50% OF
AMERICANS TO BRING ON
SOMETHING.
YOU GET THOSE KINDS OF NUMBERS,
THEY ARE OVERWHELMING
AUTHORITIES.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT TO
THESE REFORMS.
BUT ON CAPITOL HILL, THERE ARE
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE
BIPARTISAN SOLUTION TO THIS
CRISIS.
AS ALWAYS, IT IS UNCLEAR.
THOSE EFFORTS WILL GO ANYWHERE
AT ALL.
CORRESPONDENT RACHEL SCOTT HAS
THE LATEST.
>> AFTER 30 YEARS OF
CONGRESSIONAL INACTION ON GUN
CONTROL, REPUBLICAN LEADER
MITCH MCCONNELL IS GIVING THE
GREENLIGHT ON BIPARTISAN TALKS.
ENCOURAGING TEXAS SENATOR JOHN
FORMING TO WORK WITH DEMOCRATS
TO FIND COMMON GROUND.
>> I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THE
SAME OLD TIRED TALKING POINTS.
I'M ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT
WE CAN DO TO MAKE THE TERRIBLE
EVENTS THAT OCCURRED IN UVALDE
LESS LIKELY IN THE FUTURE.
FOREMAN RETURNING TO WASHINGTON
JUST AFTER THE TRAGEDY IN
UVALDE.
SPEAKING TO DEMOCRATIC SENATOR
CHRIS MURPHY, HIS AREA ROCKED
BY THE SANDY HOOK MASSACRE.
>> WE HAVE A NUMBER OF
PARTICLES WE CAN.
RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS, RED FLAG
LAWS, INCREASED SECURITY.
>> THOSE ACTIONS BACKED BY THE
MAJORITY OF AMERICANS.
NEARLY 90% SUPPORT BACKGROUND
CHECKS.
MANY REPUBLICANS AREN'T
BUDGING.
>> THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS
SUPPORT SOME TYPE OF ACTION
WHEN IT COMES TO GUN REFORM.
IS YOUR PARTY WRONG ON THIS?
ARE YOU WRONG ON THIS?
>> WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT'S
SOLUTIONS THERE ARE.
>> IF THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS
SAY THAT BACKGROUND CHECKS.
>> I REALIZE --
>> IT IS THE POINT OF VIEW OF
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
>> REPUBLICAN SENATOR RICK
SCOTT ENDED OUR INTERVIEW.
>> YOU WANT TO FINISH, OR AM I
GOING TO DO IT?
OKAY, I'LL DO IT.
>> FROM SKY NEWS IN TEXAS.
THE PROPOSALS OF THE DEMOCRATS
HAVE, NONE OF THAT WOULD'VE
STOPPED THIS.
BUT WHY DOES THIS ONLY HAPPEN
IN YOUR COUNTRY?
>> I REALLY THINK CLINICAL MANY
PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD, THEY
JUST CANNOT FATHOM.
WHY ONLY IN AMERICA?
WHY IS THIS AMERICAN
EXCEPTIONALISM SO AWFUL?
>> YOU KNOW, I SWEAR YOU
COMMERCIALISM IS AWFUL.
>> I THINK THIS ASPECT OF IT.
>> YOU'VE GOT YOUR POLITICAL
AGENDA, GOTTA LOVE YOU.
>> I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND
WHY YOU DO NOT THINK THAT GUNS
ARE THE PROBLEM.
>> BACK IN WASHINGTON, GUN
LEGISLATION IS UP IN THE AIR.
SENATORS LEFT TOWN FOR RECESS.
>> SENATOR, ARE THERE ENOUGH
REPUBLICANS TO GET THIS PASSED?
>> TERRY, SEVERAL PROTESTS
PLANNED OUTSIDE OF THE NRA
CONVENTION TODAY.
GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT PULLED IT
AT THE LAST MINUTE, BUT TEXAS
AND THE GREAT TED CRUZ AND
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ARE
STILL EXPECTED TO SPEAK.
NO GUNS WILL BE ALLOWED INSIDE
AS TRUMP ADDRESSES THE
CONVENTION, AT THE REQUEST OF
SECRET SERVICE.
>> RACHEL SCOTT, KEEPS ASKING
THOSE QUESTIONS FOR US, THANKS
SO MUCH.
IN LIGHT OF THIS LATEST TRAGEDY
IN OUR COUNTRY, WE WANT TO TAKE
A CLOSER LOOK AT THE SURGE IN
VIOLENCE.
AND AMERICA'S UNIQUE OBSESSION
WITH GUNS.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> ON MAY 20, FOURTH 2022, THE
U.S. EXPERIENCED ONE OF ITS
DEADLIEST SCHOOL SHOOTINGS.
WHEN A GUNMAN WALKED INTO AN
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN TEXAS AND
KILLED AT LEAST 19 CHILDREN,
AND TWO TEACHERS.
JUST DAYS AFTER A SHOOTER IN
YOUR KILLED TEN PEOPLE.
ACCORDING TO AUTHORITIES, BOTH
SHOOTERS USED AR-15 STYLE
RIFLES.
GUN VIOLENCE HAS BECOME AN
AMERICAN EPIDEMIC.
AS OF 2018, IT WAS ESTIMATED
THAT THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY
400 MILLION CIVILIAN-OWNED GUNS
IN AMERICA.
THAT MEANS THAT THERE ARE MORE
GUNS THAN THERE ARE PEOPLE OR
CARS IN THE U.S..
BY COMPARISON, AMERICANS OWN
MORE GUNS PER CAPITA THAN ANY
OTHER COUNTRY, ACCOUNTING FOR
ABOUT 40% OF THE WORLD'S TOTAL
GUN OWNERSHIP.
AND THAT NUMBER IS LIKELY TO
INCREASE.
SINCE 2008, THERE WAS FIREARM
INDUSTRY GROW 32%, MAKING IT A
63.5 MILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY IN
2020.
BUT THE REASON FOR THE MISSION
OF HER GUN OWNERSHIP ISN'T JUST
BECAUSE THE U.S. OWNS THE MOST
GUNS.
IT IS BECAUSE IT ALSO HAS THE
HIGHEST RATE OF MASS SHOOTINGS,
GUN RELATED HOMICIDES, IN
FIREARM SUICIDES AMONG
SIMILARLY DEVELOPED NATIONS.
>> OUR POLITICS IS JUST NOT
BEING INCENTIVIZED TO PAY
ATTENTION TO THE THINGS THAT
WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE GUN
VIOLENCE.
>> THIS IS THE JOB OF PUBLIC
HEALTH.
TO HELP THE MOST VULNERABLE.
TO STAND UP FOR THEM.
>> HOW DO WE GET HERE?
HOW DOES THE RIGHT TO RUN AGAIN
BECOME A DIVISIVE AMERICAN
IDEAL?
AND OF ALL THE PROPOSED
SOLUTIONS, WHAT DO EXPERTS SAY
CAN EFFECTIVELY REDUCE GUN
VIOLENCE IN THE U.S.?
AROUND THE 19TH CENTURY, THERE
WERE AT LEAST 90 COUNTRIES THAT
HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS IN
THE COST SITUATION.
BUT AS THE YEARS PASSED, MOST
OF THESE COUNTRIES MADE CHANGES
REVOKING OR LIMITING GUN
RIGHTS.
AS OF 2021, ONLY THREE
COUNTRIES STILL HAVE THE RIGHT
TO BEAR ARMS AND OUR
CONSTITUTION.
IN THE UNITED STATES IS ONE OF
THEM.
>> THE ACTIVISM WAS NOT IN THE
CENTER OF REALLY GROWN CULTURE.
AND FOR A LONG TIME, MOST
PEOPLE IN THE U.S.-OWNED GUNS,
BUT IT WAS REALLY FOR --
SHOOTING AND WAS ASSOCIATED
WITH MASCULINITY.
SO IT WAS KIND OF A RIGHT OF
PASSAGE.
BUT IT WAS NOT ABOUT RIGHTS AND
THE LAW.
>> THE IDEA OF GUN CONTROL DID
NOT REALLY ENTER THE NATIONAL
CONVERSATION UNTIL 1934,
FOLLOWING A MASS SHOOTING IN
CHICAGO.
MOST GUN REGULATION LAWS WERE
PASSED WITHOUT MUCH OPPOSITION
UNTIL 1968, WHEN PRESIDENT
LYNDON B. JOHNSON SIGNED TO THE
GUN CONTROL ACT.
BUT THIS STARTED TO CHANGE
YEARS LATER, WHEN THE NRA
BECAME AN ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION
CENTERED ON THE SECOND
AMENDMENT, BRINGING WITH IT A
HUGE INFLUX OF MONEY.
>> IT REALLY CHANGED AFTER THE
CINCINNATI REVOLT IN A 1977,
WHEN THERE WAS A COUP INSIDE OF
THE NRA.
ACTIVISTS TOOK THE NRA.
AND THEN THE EARLY 2000S, IT
SWITCHED AGAIN TO BEING A
MOSTLY REPUBLICAN GUN LOBBYING
ORGANIZATION.
>> NOWADAYS, THE NRA SPENDS
BETWEEN TWO TO $5 MILLION
ANNUALLY LOBBYING FOR GUN
RIGHTS.
DURING THE 2020 ELECTIONS ALONE,
THE ASSOCIATIONS BY $29 MILLION
IN POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS.
>> DO WE BELIEVE IN FREEDOM AND
LIBERTY?
AND SO THE RIGHTS TO KEEP AND
BEAR ARMS.
>> IN 1983, THIS IS EASTER
LOOKING AT GUN VIOLENCE AS A
PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEM, WHEN THE
CRITICALLY VIOLENCE
EPIDEMIOLOGY BRANCH.
>> THE NRA LOOKED AT THIS AND
THEY SAID, IF YOU DO THIS
RESEARCH, IT IS GOING TO END UP
IN EVERYONE LOSING THEIR GUNS.
IT IS EITHER THE RESEARCH OR
YOUR GUNS, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH.
YOU'VE GOT TO DECIDE.
THIS WAS MISINFORMATION.
BUT IT WAS A POWERFUL STRATEGY
FOR THE NRA.
>> EVENTUALLY, CONGRESS
DEFERRED FUNDING FOR --
PASSING THE DICKIE AMENDMENT,
WHICH PREVENTED THE CDC FROM
USING FEDERAL FUNDING TO
ADVOCATE OR SUPPORT GUN
CONTROL.
AFTER THE --
CDC SPENT SEVERAL YEARS WITH
SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH ON GUN
VIOLENCE.
>> IT WAS A SHOT ACROSS THE
BOW.
THAT HAD IMPACTS PARTICULARLY
ACROSS THE FIELD OF DATA
COLLECTION.
IF YOU ARE GETTING YOUR DATA
COLLECTION DONE BY A PRIVATE
FOUNDATION OR SOME OTHER SOURCE,
YOU DON'T HAVE WHAT RESEARCHERS
HAVE DESCRIBED TO ME IS THE
FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE
U.S. GOVERNMENT BEHIND IT.
THAT MAKES IT EASIER.
IF YOU HAVE THAT FULL FAITH AND
CREDIT.
TO GET AGENCIES AND GET STATES
ON BOARD AND GET THAT DATA
COLLECTED.
>> THE NEED FOR RESEARCH WAS
FINALLY RECOGNIZED SHORTLY
AFTER THE MASS SCHOOL SHOOTING
IN PARKLAND FLORIDA THAT LEFT
70 DEAD IN 2018.
A CLARIFICATION WAS MADE TO THE
DICKEY AMENDMENT, ALLOWING THE
CDC TO CONDUCT RESEARCH ON THE
CAUSES OF DOWN GUN VIOLENCE.
>> THIS RESEARCH IS GOING TO
FIND THOSE WAYS THAT WE CAN
KEEP GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF
PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE THEM.
WITHOUT INFRINGING ON THE
RIGHTS OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO
SHOULD.
>> BUT IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND
HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY REDUCE
GUN VIOLENCE, LET'S FIRST STEP
INTO THE NUMBERS AROUND IT.
EACH YEAR, APPROXIMATELY 40,000
PEOPLE DIE IN AMERICA FROM
FIREARM INJURIES.
THE U.S. SAW THE PEAK OF
GARNISHMENT 1993, WITH AN
ESTIMATED 51% OF HOUSEHOLDS
OWNING A GUN.
THAT'S A MIRROR, GUN HOMICIDES
ALSO REACHED THEIR PEAK.
>> WHEN ALL YOU HAVE IS A
HAMMER, EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE A
NAIL.
WHEN YOU HAVE EASY ACCESS TO
GUNS AND YOU HAVE LOTS OF GUNS
AVAILABLE TO YOU, THEY MORE
PROBLEMS LIKELY PROBLEMS THAT
CAN GET SOLVED WITH THEM.
>> THEY ARE VERY MUCH IS A
CORRELATION BETWEEN THE NUMBER
OF GUNS IN A PLACE, AND THE
NUMBER OF GUN DEATHS IN A
PLACE.
THAT IS SOMETHING YOU CAN SEE
CONSISTENTLY ACROSS THE WORLD,
YEAR AFTER YEAR.
THE PLACES THAT HAVE MORE GUNS
HAVE MORE GUN DEATHS.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THE
INJURIES AND DEATHS, YOU ARE
MISSING A VERY BIG PART OF THE
PROBLEM FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL
LIFE THAT IS DESTROYED, THERE
IS A FAMILY THAT IS DESTROYED.
THERE IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS
SHATTERED.
THE CONSTANT ANXIETY, FEAR AND
WORRY, IS TREMENDOUS.
>> AND WHILE MOST GUN HONORS
SITE SAFETY AND PROTECTION IS
THE REASON FOR RUNNING A
FIREARM, RESEARCH SHOWS THAT
HAVING A GUN IN YOUR HOME DOES
NOT NECESSARILY KEEP YOU SAFER.
>> WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT NOT
ONLY JUST HAVING A GUN IN YOUR
HOME NOT MAKE YOU SAFER, BUT IT
INCREASES THE RISK THAT SOMEONE
IN YOUR FAMILY WILL BE KILLED
BY A GUN.
WE WILL BE A VICTIM OF GUN
HOMICIDES.
AND IT INCREASES A HUGELY.
NOT BY TEN, 15, 20, 25%.
NOT BY 100 PERCENT.
BY 200%.
THE IDEA THAT SOMEBODY IN YOUR
FAMILY WILL BE SHOT AND KILLED
BY A GUN, THE RATE OF THAT,
TRIPLES.
AND THE RATES THAT SOMEBODY
WILL COMMIT SUICIDE WITH A GUN
GOES UP 400%.
IT IS A MULTIPLIED FIVEFOLD.
>> AND SUICIDES MAKE UP THE
LARGEST PORTION OF A FIREARM
DEATHS.
>> TWO THIRDS OF ALL GUN DEATHS
IN AMERICA ARE SUICIDES.
AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
KILLING THEMSELVES WITH GUNS IN
THE U.S. ARE OLDER WHITE MAN.
WHO ARE GUN OWNERS.
THEN, YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE
THIRD THAT ARE HOMICIDES.
WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
HOMICIDES, YOU ARE
PREDOMINANTLY TALKING ABOUT
YOUNGER BLACK MAN.
AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WOMAN,
WHO ARE BEING KILLED IN
HOMICIDES, YOU ARE
PREDOMINANTLY TALKING ABOUT
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
>> WHEN WE SHIFT TO MASS
SHOOTINGS, THEY ONLY ACCOUNT
FOR A SMALL PERCENT OF GUN
DEATHS EACH YEAR.
THEY'VE ALSO BECOME MORE COMMON
AND MORE DEADLY IN RECENT
YEARS.
>> THE POLITICS OF GUN VIOLENCE
HAS, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF
DECADES, REALLY CENTERED AROUND
THINGS LIKE MASS SHOOTINGS.
TERRORISM.
ACCIDENTAL GUN DEATHS IN SMALL
CHILDREN.
BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY GO AND LOOK
AT THE DATA, AGAIN, WHAT YOU
FIND IS THAT THOSE ARE NOT
MAKING UP THE MAJORITY OF GUN
VIOLENCE DEATHS.
THEY ARE NOT EVEN MAKING UP A
SIGNIFICANT MINORITY.
>> ABC NEWS COMBINE FORCES WITH
THE ARCHIVE TO DOCUMENT A
WEEK'S WORTH OF GUN VIOLENCE,
AND FOUND THAT IN A SINGLE WEEK
IN JULY 2021, THERE WERE MORE
THAN 1000 INCIDENTS OF GUN
VIOLENCE ACROSS 47 STATES.
THAT IS ABOUT ONE EVERY TEN
MINUTES.
AND IN THOSE INCIDENTS, MORE
THAN 400 PEOPLE WERE KILLED.
DESPITE THE GAP IN FEDERAL
RESEARCH, LIMITED DATA SHOWS
IMPLEMENTATION OF CERTAIN GUN
REGULATIONS AND LAWS HAVE BEEN
EFFECTIVE AT THE STATE LEVEL.
FOR EXAMPLE, AND IN THE END OF
THE RED FLAG LAW HAS BEEN
ASSOCIATED WITH A 7.5%
REDUCTION IN FIREARMS SUICIDES,
A DECADE AFTER IT WAS
IMPLEMENTED.
OTHER METHODS LIKE PERMIT LAWS
OR CEASE-FIRE PROGRAMS HAVE HAD
SOME SUCCESS IN INDIVIDUAL
CITIES.
BUT THE RESEARCH IS MIXED.
ONE STUDY FOUND THAT STATES CAN
REDUCE HOMICIDE RATES JUST BY
IMPLEMENTING THREE LAWS.
>> UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS
ARE LAWS TO PREVENT ANYBODY
WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD FROM
HAVING A WEAPON.
LAWS GIVE DISCRETION TO THE
POLICE TO ACTUALLY REFUSE TO
ISSUE THE CONSULATE CARRY
PERMITS.
THESE LAWS BASICALLY PREVENT
SOMEONE FROM BEING CONVICTED OF
INTERPERSONAL VIOLENCE FROM
BUYING A GUN.
WE SAW THE COMBINATION OF ALL
THREE ARE ON LAWS TO REDUCE
FIREARMS DEATHS BY 20%.
IN 2019, THAT MEANS THAT 4200
PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED.
>> BUT NONE OF THESE METHODS ON
THEIR OWN ARE PERFECT.
AS SOME LOCATIONS LOOSEN THEIR
--
OWN GUN RESTRICTIONS --
>> HAVING MORE CONSISTENT DATA
AND MORE LONG TERM SETS OF DATA,
THOSE THINGS REALLY CAN HELP US
FIND SOLUTIONS.
>> MOST INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY
SUPPORT GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION
LAWS.
OVER 90% SUPPORT UNIVERSAL
BACKGROUND CHECKS.
THEY OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT
VIOLENCE AGAINST --
LAWS.
AND WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THAT
THEY DON'T KNOW WITH OTHERS TO.
THEY ARE INFLUENCED BY HEARING
THE VOCAL MINORITY OF GOOD
SUPPORTERS ALL THE TIME.
>> WE CAN FIND WAYS TO KEEP
GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF PEOPLE
WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE THEM,
WITHOUT INFRINGING ON THE
RIGHTS OF LAW-ABIDING GUN
OWNERS.
AND THAT GIVES US SO MANY WAYS
FORWARD, IF WE WORK ON IT
TOGETHER.
IF WE USE THE SILENCE.
AND IF WE FOCUS ON PREVENTION.
THIS IS A PROBLEM WE CAN SOLVE.
>> A PROBLEM WE CAN SOLVE.
BUT WE JUST HEARD IS THAT THERE
IS A SENSE OF FUTILITY AND
FRUSTRATION THAT SO MANY PEOPLE
WELCOME BACK.
LET'S GET YOU SOME OF THE OTHER
TOP NEWS OF THE DAY.
AT LEAST NINE POSITIVE CASES OF
MONKEYPOX IN SEVEN STATES
ACROSS THE U.S. NOW.
INCLUDING ONE IN VIRGINIA.
CDC DIRECTOR, DR. ROCHELLE
ZELENSKYY SAYS ON NOT ALL
INFECTED PATIENTS TRAVELED
ABROAD, MEANING THERE MAY BE
SOME COMMUNITIES SPREAD HERE IN
THE UNITED STATES.
HEALTH OFFICIALS SAY THIS IS
NOT A GREAT RISK TO THE GENERAL
PUBLIC, BUT ALL POSSIBLE CASES
SHOULD BE REPORTED TO A DOCTOR,
QUICKLY.
IN THE MEANTIME, THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT SAYS IT WILL NOT
PURSUE CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST
FORMER FBI AGENTS WHO FAILED TO
OPEN AN INVESTIGATION INTO
SPORTS DOCTOR LARRY NASSAR.
FOR SEXUALLY ASSAULTING FAIR
MILL GYMNAST, DESPITE FINDING
THAT THESE FORMER ASIANS LIKELY
PROVIDED QUOTE, INACCURATE OR
INCOMPLETE INFORMATION.
IN A STATEMENT, THE DOJ SAID
THIS DOES NOT IN ANY WAY
REFLECTIVE EITHER THE
INVESTIGATION OF NASA WAS
HANDLED AS IT SHOULD'VE BEEN.
NORTH ANYWAY REFLECTS APPROVAL
OR DISREGARD OF THE CONDUCT OF
THE FORMER AGENTS.
NASSAR'S CURRENTLY FOR RICH
SERVING TEN YEARS IN PRISON
AFTER BEING FOUND GUILTY IN
2018 THAT ASSAULTING MORE THAN
20, 250 PEOPLE.
AND AL JAZEERA SAYS IT WILL
SUBMIT A CASE TO THE
INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT ON
THE KILLING OF REPORTER SERENE
OF LOUGHLIN, WHO WAS SHOT DEAD
EARLIER THIS MONTH DURING AN
ISRAELI RAID IN THE WEST BANK.
THE NETWORK, THE PALESTINIAN
OFFICIALS HAVE ACCUSERS REALLY
SOLDIERS OF DELIBERATELY
KILLING HER, ACCLAIM REIDSVILLE
CALLS A QUOTE BLATANT LIE.
WILL NOW TO THE LATEST IN THE
WAR IN THE UKRAINE, YOU
VLADIMIR PUTIN'S BLOCKADE OF
ODESSA, THE MAJOR PORT ANOTHER
UKRAINIAN PORTS.
HAS BEEN SENDING BASIC FOOD
PRICES SPIRALING AROUND THE
WORLD.
AND A SHORTAGE FOR THOSE
CONTINUING TO LIVE THROUGH THE
WAR.
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