Transcript for ABC News Live: Special counsel claims Trump deliberately misled attorneys: Sources
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>> HI, I'M DIANE MACEDO.
TODAY ON "ABC NEWS LIVE".
NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN
THE INVESTIGATION INTO FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP HANDLING OF
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS
RESPONDING THIS MORNING.
>> AND WILL HE BE INDICTED IN
HUSH MONEY PAYMENT CASE?
>> THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS SET
TO ANNOUNCE WHETHER IT
WILL RAISE INTEREST RATES AGAIN
IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE BANKING
CRISIS.
WHAT IT MEANS FOR YOUR MONEY
AND MEMBERS.
ONLY CLUBS LIKE SOHO HOUSE HAVE
BECOME INCREASINGLY POPULAR IN
CITIES ALL OVER THE WORLD.
NOW, TWO BROTHERS FOLLOWING
SUIT WITH AN EMPOWERING TWIST.
WE'LL TAKE YOU INSIDE HQ, D.C.
HOUSE.
>> BUT WE BEGIN WITH NEW
DEVELOPMENTS IN
THE INVESTIGATION INTO FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
SOURCES TELL
ABC NEWS PROSECUTORS FOR
THE SPECIAL COUNSEL HAVE
PRESENTED EVIDENCE THAT TRUMP
DELIBERATELY MISLED HIS OWN
ATTORNEYS ABOUT HIS HANDLING OF
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.
THIS IS A GRAND JURY
IS RECONVENING TODAY TO WEIGH
POTENTIAL CHARGES AGAINST
THE FORMER PRESIDENT FOR HIS
ROLE IN HUSH MONEY PAYMENTS
TO STORMY DANIELS CHIEF
WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT
JONATHAN KARL HAS THE LATEST
ADDED SECURITY IS IN PLACE IN
NEW YORK AMID GROWING
ANTICIPATION DONALD TRUMP COULD
BE INDICTED AS SOON AS TODAY IN
A CASE BROUGHT BY MANHATTAN
DISTRICT ATTORNEY ALVIN BRAGG
REGARDING HUSH MONEY PAID TO
STAR STORMY DANIELS.
BUT TRUMP FACES MULTIPLE
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS.
SOURCES TELLING ABC NEWS A
FEDERAL JUDGE'S DETERMINED THAT
THERE'S ENOUGH COMPELLING
PRELIMINARY EVIDENCE THAT TRUMP
BROKE THE LAW.
IN ANOTHER CASE, THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL'S INVESTIGATION OF
TRUMP'S HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED
DOCUMENTS.
JUDGE BERYL HAOLES ORDER
IS SEALED, BUT SOURCES
DESCRIBED ITS CONTENTS
TO ABC NEWS, SAYING SHE
WROTE SPECIAL COUNSEL JACK
SMITH PROVIDED ENOUGH EVIDENCE
THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAD
COMMITTED CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS.
IN PARTICULAR, PROSECUTORS SAY
HE KNOWINGLY MISLED HIS
ATTORNEYS SO THAT THEY WOULD
FILE A SWORN STATEMENT LAST
JUNE THAT HE KNEW WAS FALSE,
CLAIMING THAT A DILIGENT SEARCH
OF HIS MAR-A-LAGO ESTATE FOUND
THAT HE HAD TURNED OVER ALL
THE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS IN HIS
POSSESSION.
>> THEY HAD A SMALL NUMBER OF
BOXES IN STORAGE AT MAR-A-LAGO,
GUARDED BY SECRET SERVICE
PROSECUTOR SAY MORE THAN
ONE HUNDRED ADDITIONAL
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS WERE
FOUND.
TWO MONTHS LATER WHEN THE FBI
SEARCHED HIS PREMISES.
THE JUDGE'S ORDER DOESN'T MEAN
THAT TRUMP IS GUILTY OR THAT HE
WILL BE CHARGED, BUT IT DOES
MEAN THAT PROSECUTORS HAVE
PRESENTED COMPELLING
PRELIMINARY EVIDENCE HE MAY
HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME.
TRUMP HAS REPEATEDLY DENIED ANY
WRONGDOING IN HIS HANDLING OF
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
TWO OF TRUMP'S LAWYERS HAD
CLAIMED
ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE
AND REFUSING TO TESTIFY IN
THE CASE.
>> BUT THE FEDERAL JUDGE HAS
RULED THAT THE PRIVILEGE CAN
BE PIERCED BECAUSE THERE'S
ENOUGH EVIDENCE TRUMP MISLED
THEM.
AND BROKE THE LAW.
THE JUDGE ORDERED ONE OF
TRUMP'S LAWYERS TO HAND OVER
A NUMBER OF RECORDS, SOURCES
TELLING ABC NEWS THAT INCLUDES
HANDWRITTEN NOTES, INVOICES
AND TRANSCRIPTS OF AUDIO
RECORDINGS, ALL RELATED TO WHAT
THE JUDGE CALLED TRUMP'S
ALLEGED CRIMINALS.
SCHEME.
>> TRUMP HAS APPEALED
THE JUDGE'S ORDER AND A
THREE JUDGE PANEL HAS STAYED
THE ORDER WHILE THE APPEAL
IS HEARD.
>> CHIEF WASHINGTON
CORRESPONDENT JONATHAN KARL,
THANKS FOR THAT.
>> AND LET'S TALK TO SENIOR
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER
AARON KATERSKY LIVE FROM
OUTSIDE THE COURT IN MANHATTAN
AND INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER
KATHERINE FAULDERS IN
WASHINGTON WITH MORE ON ALL OF
THIS.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR COMING ON .
KATHERINE , THE JUDGE IN THIS
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS CASE
A STEP DOWN AS CHIEF OF
THE D.C. DISTRICT COURT
ON FRIDAY.
SHE'S NO LONGER OVERSEEING THIS
CASE.
HOW COULD THAT AFFECT
THE INVESTIGATION MOVING
FORWARD?
RIGHT.
SO NOW IT'S UNDER A DIFFERENT
DISTRICT JUDGE, BUT I DON'T
THINK THAT THIS AFFECTS THAT
MUCH.
RIGHT.
THIS IS THE OPINION
AND MEMORANDUM FROM A JUDGE.
BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT
TRUMP'S LEGAL TEAM HAS APPEALED
THIS TO THE CIRCUIT COURT.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN IMMEDIATE
STAY OF THIS RULING.
IT'S THE CIRCUIT COURT COULD
RULE VERY QUICKLY HERE.
THEY SET THESE VIGOUROUS
DEADLINES.
TRUMP'S TEAM HAD TO REPLY
BY LAST NIGHT AT MIDNIGHT
AND THE GOVERNMENT HAD
TO SUBMIT A REPLY AT 6:00 A.M.
THIS MORNING.
SO THIS IS MOVING VERY QUICKLY.
I DON'T THINK IT WILL AFFECT
THAT MUCH.
OF COURSE, IT DEPENDS
HOW THE CIRCUIT COURT RULES.
BUT IF THEY RULE IN FAVOR OF
THE GOVERNMENT, IT COULD REALLY
WELL BE THAT CORCORAN LAWYER
KEVIN CORCORAN COULD BE SHOWING
UP AGAIN AT THE GRAND JURY VERY
,VERY SOON AARON.
>> MEANWHILE, WE'RE AWAITING
THE GRAND JURY'S DECISION
ON WHETHER TO BRING CHARGES IN
THE STORMY DANIELS HUSH MONEY
CASE.
WHATEVER ARE THEY LOOKING AT
AND WHAT KIND OF CHARGES COULD
WE SEE HERE?
>> THE CHARGE COULD
BE FALSIFICATION OF BUSINESS.
RECORDS IN THE WAY THAT FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS COMPANY
ACCOUNTED FOR A ONE HUNDRED
THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PAID
TO STORMY DANIELS BY MICHAEL
COHEN IN THE WEEKS BEFORE
THE 2016 ELECTION.
COHEN SAID AS LONG AS ROUTINE
LEGAL EXPENSES, WHEN IN FACT,
HE SAYS IT WAS MEANT
TO POTENTIALLY PROTECT
THE CAMPAIGN FROM ANY DAMAGE
THAT DANIELS COULD HAVE CAUSED
BY DISCLOSING ALLEGATIONS OF
HER AFFAIR.
EVEN THOUGH TRUMP HAS DENIED
THAT THE TWO HAD ANY KIND OF
SEXUAL ENCOUNTER IN ORDER
TO MAKE THAT MORE THAN
A MISDEMEANOR, THE PROSECUTORS
AT THE MANHATTAN D.A.'S OFFICE
WOULD HAVE TO SHOW THAT
THE BUSINESS RECORDS WERE
FALSIFIED IN FURTHERANCE OF
ANOTHER CRIME.
AND THAT COULD BE A STATE
ELECTION VIOLATION.
IT COULD BE A FEDERAL CAMPAIGN
FINANCE VIOLATION.
THOSE ARE UNTESTED, LEGAL
THEORIES IN EITHER CASE, BUT
THAT SEEMS TO BE WHERE
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY WANTS
THIS CASE TO GO NOW.
>> CATHERINE , WHAT'S
THE RESPONSE IN WASHINGTON
TO ALL OF THIS?
>> WELL, LOOK, REPUBLICANS
AND YOU'VE SEEN HOUSE
REPUBLICANS ARE RESPONDING
TO THIS POTENTIAL INDICTMENT
FROM ALVIN BRAGG.
THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY LAUNCHING
THEIR OWN INVESTIGATION.
THEY'RE SAYING INVESTIGATE
THE INVESTIGATORS.
THEY'VE REQUESTED THAT BRAGG
PROVIDE TESTIMONY, THAT HE
PROVIDE ALL DOCUMENTS
AND COMMUNICATIONS RELATED
TO THIS CASE.
NOW, THIS ISN'T A SUBPOENA.
IT'S JUST A REQUEST FOR
DOCUMENTS.
AT THIS POINT, IT'S UNLIKELY
THAT YOU WILL SEE ANY RESPONSE
FROM THE D.A. BUT THE BOTTOM
LINE IS HERE THAT REPUBLICANS
AND MAINLY HOUSE REPUBLICANS
ARE USING THEIR INVESTIGATIVE
COMMITTEES TO TRY
AND INVESTIGATE US WHEN
THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW
THE POTENTIAL CHARGES
THEMSELVES AND THE RALLYING
BEHIND THE FORMER
PRESIDENT AARON.
>> IF TRUMP IS INDICTED, WHAT
HAPPENS NEXT?
AT SOME POINT, THE SECRET
SERVICE WOULD GET INVOLVED
AND ARRANGE HIS TRANSPORTATION
HERE TO NEW YORK FROM FLORIDA
SO HE COULD PRESENT HIMSELF IN
COURT.
WE THINK THIS WOULD BE A
SURRENDER LIKE ANY WHITE COLLAR
CRIMINAL DEFENDANT IS AFFORDED
THE OPPORTUNITY WHETHER HE
NEEDS TO BE PROCESSED LIKE
OTHER POTENTIAL CRIMINALS.
WE DON'T WE DON'T REALLY KNOW.
HIS FINGERPRINTS ARE ON FILE.
HE'S HAD A GUN PERMIT IN
NEW YORK BEFORE, SO HIS
FINGERPRINTS ARE HERE.
WHETHER HE NEEDS TO BE
PHOTOGRAPHED, WE'RE NOT SURE.
PLENTY OF WAYS TO RECOGNIZE
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.
SO THE USUAL PROCESSING MAY NOT
APPLY, BUT AT SOME POINT HE
WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO APPEAR IN
AN OPEN COURTROOM FOR
ARRAIGNMENT.
>> AND THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD
KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF ANY
CHARGES.
ALL RIGHT.
KATHERINE FAULDERS
AARON KATERSKY.
>> THANK YOU BOTH.
MEANWHILE, INVESTORS ARE
AWAITING AN IMPORTANT DECISION
BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE TODAY
ON INTEREST RATES.
HIGHER RATES COULD HELP COOL
INFLATION, BUT THEY COULD ALSO
FURTHER DESTABILIZE THE BANKING
INDUSTRY.
CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT
REBECCA JARVIS TELLS US WHAT WE
CAN EXPECT.
>> HI, REBECCA.
TODAY'S FED DECISION IS A
CRITICAL ONE TO THE STATE OF
THE ECONOMY.
IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON YOUR
MONEY.
IT MOST IMMEDIATELY WILL IMPACT
CREDIT CARD APPEARS.
RIGHT NOW, THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT
20%.
IF THE FED HIKES INTEREST RATES
AND DOES THAT STAYS THE COURSE
AND CONTINUES TO TRY TO FIGHT
INFLATION BY HIKING INTEREST
RATES, YOU WILL SEE THAT
CREDIT CARD APR GO UP PRETTY
QUICKLY TO ABOUT TWENTY POINT
NINE PERCENT AND THAT WILL MEAN
MORE EXPENSIVE INTEREST
PAYMENTS ON YOUR CREDIT CARDS
IF YOU WERE ONLY TO PAY
THE MINIMUM ON THE AVERAGE
CREDIT CARD BALANCE, WHICH
IS ABOUT FIFTY EIGHT HUNDRED
DOLLARS, IT'LL ADD ABOUT
A HUNDRED DOLLARS IN INTEREST
TO YOUR OVERALL PAYMENTS OVER
TIME.
AND IT'LL STILL, IF YOU'RE ONLY
MAKING THOSE MINIMUM PAYMENTS,
YOU'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING
ON TO THAT DEBT FOR MANY, MANY
YEARS TO COME.
NOW, THE IMPORTANT THING
TO ALSO THINK ABOUT IS WHAT
THIS ALL MEANS FOR THE HOUSING
MARKET.
WE'VE ALREADY SEEN MORTGAGE
RATES CLIMBING WITH THE FED
AGGRESSIVELY HIKING RATES OVER
THE LAST YEAR.
ABOUT A YEAR AGO, YOU COULD
GET A 30 YEAR FIXED RATE
MORTGAGE FOR AROUND
FOUR PERCENT TODAY.
THAT'S GOING TO RUN MORE LIKE
SEVEN PERCENT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT IN REAL
TERMS, ON A THREE HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLAR MORTGAGE A YEAR
AGO, YOU MIGHT HAVE PAID ABOUT
FIFTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH
ON THAT MORTGAGE TODAY BECAUSE
MORTGAGE RATES AND INTEREST
RATES HAVE BEEN CLIMBING.
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY
IS MORE LIKE NINETEEN HUNDRED
DOLLARS.
SO YOU SEE EVEN SMALL MOVES IN
INTEREST RATES HAVE BIG
OUTCOMES FOR WHAT YOU
ULTIMATELY PAY, WHETHER IT'S
YOUR CREDIT CARD BILL OR
YOUR MORTGAGE.
THE FED HAS TO TAKE ALL OF THIS
IN TO CONSIDERATION, AS WELL
AS THE TURBULENCE THAT WE'VE
SEEN IN RECENT WEEKS.
IN THE BANKING INDUSTRY.
AND THE QUESTION IS , WILL THEY
FACTOR IN, PRIORITIZE THAT
BANKING TURBULENCE OVER
THE FIGHT AGAINST INFLATION?
WE WILL KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS
COMING UP LATER THIS AFTERNOON.
WHEN THEY MAKE THAT DECISION.
BUT AGAIN, SOMETHING WITH MAJOR
RIPPLE EFFECTS ON EVERYONE
WATCHING RIGHT NOW.
DIANE , CHIEF BUSINESS
CORRESPONDENT, REBECCA JARVIS,
THANK YOU.
AND GERARD CASSIDY, MANAGING
DIRECTOR .
AHEAD OF US BANK STRATEGY FOR
RBC CAPITAL MARKETS, JOINS ME
NOW WITH MORE ON THIS STORY.
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON .
INFLATION IS STILL MORE THAN
TRIPLE THE FED'S TARGET OF
TWO PERCENT, BUT HIGHER RATE
HIKES COULD FURTHER DESTABILIZE
THE BANKING INDUSTRY.
SO HOW DOES THE FED WEIGH THESE
TWO FACTORS?
WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE?
>> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION,
BRIANNA , BECAUSE THEY ARE
REALLY STUCK BETWEEN
THE PROVERBIAL ROCK AND A HARD
PLACE.
>> AND INFLATION IS ONE OF
THE KEY METRICS THAT THEY HAVE
TO CONTROL.
AND AS YOU POINTED OUT, IT'S 3X
WHAT THEY WANT IT TO BE.
SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE
THE DOMINANT HEADLINE, BECAUSE
THOUGH WE'VE HAD THIS FINANCIAL
INSTABILITY WITH THE BANKS THAT
YOU REFERENCED, IT'S STARTING
TO COME DOWN FROM WHAT IT WAS
LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO.
AND SO I THINK THAT WHEN
THEY LOOK AT WHAT THE TRENDS
ARE ON DEPOSITS, THEY ACTUALLY
WILL RAISE RATES BECAUSE
INFLATION IS MUCH HIGHER THAN
THEY SHOULD BE .
>> YOU SAY YOU THINK THE RISK
OF A BANK RUN IS OVER NOW.
>> WHAT MAKES YOU SO CONFIDENT?
AND CAN THE INDUSTRY SUSTAIN
ANOTHER RATE HIKE?
>> THE REASON WE'RE CONFIDENT
THAT THE BANK RUN IS , WAS THAT
IT WAS REALLY FOCUSED IN TWO OR
THREE BANKS, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY
FAMILIAR WITH SILICON VALLEY
BANKS SIGNATURE AND FIRST
REPUBLIC.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THE FEDERAL RESERVE'S DISCOUNT
WINDOW, WHICH IS WHERE
THE BANKS GO TO BORROW AS A
LENDER, THE FED IS THE LENDER
OF LAST RESORT.
>> YOU COULD SEE THAT ALL OF
LENDING OR BORROWING AT
THE WINDOW TOOK PLACE IN
SAN FRANCISCO, IN NEW YORK ,
WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE
LOCATED.
THERE WAS NO CONTAGION.
ST. LOUIS IN CLEVELAND,
ATLANTA.
WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING UNUSUAL
THERE.
>> THE BIG BANKS ARE TELLING
US THE BIG REGIONALS AND THE
MONEY CENTERS, THAT THERE'S NO
OUTFLOW OF DEPOSITS MAGNITUDE.
SO I DO THINK THE BANKS COULD
HANDLE THE 25 BASIS POINT
INCREASE.
AND I DO THINK THAT THOSE BANKS
THAT HAD THE RUNS WERE SO
FAR OUTLIERS THAN YOUR NORMAL
BANK.
NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE
ECONOMIC PICTURE OVERALL, THERE
ARE A NUMBER OF MIXED FACTORS
AT PLAY BETWEEN THE JOB MARKET,
INFLATION, RECESSION FEARS,
BANKING INSTABILITY.
HOW DO YOU SEE THIS ALL PLAYING
OUT LONG TERM?
>> IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
BECAUSE THE CROSSCURRENTS IN
DATA TODAY ARE INCREDIBLE.
IN THE EMPLOYMENT MARKET,
TO YOUR POINT, IS VERY STRONG
ON THE YOU LOOK AT SOME OF
THE OTHER METRICS THAT YOU
REFERENCED AND EM NGUYEN
POINTING YOU SLOW DOWN
OUR RECESSION.
SO IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING.
I THINK WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
IS THEY HAVE TO GET THIS
INFLATION UNDER CONTROL ONCE
IT'S UNDER CONTROL AND HEADING
TOWARD TWO TO THREE PERCENT,
POSSIBLY BY THE END OF THIS
YEAR, NEXT YEAR, THEY CAN START
CUTTING RATES.
>> BUT IT'S A LITTLE TOO EARLY
FOR THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
CASSIDY OF RBC, WE APPRECIATE
IT.
GERARD, THANK YOU.
>> AND THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SCHOOL DISTRICT WORKERS ARE
STRIKING FOR A SECOND DAY.
THE SUPERINTENDENT SAYS HIS
OFFER IS HISTORIC, BUT
THE UNION SAYS IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
NOW, PARENTS ARE CONCERNED
THEIR KIDS ARE FALLING BEHIND.
KAYNA WHITWORTH IS IN L.A.
WITH THE LATEST.
THE CITY OF ANGELS PREPARING
ITSELF FOR DAY TWO OF A MASSIVE
STRIKE THAT IS SHUTTING DOWN
THE SECOND LARGEST SCHOOL
DISTRICT IN THE COUNTRY.
>> MORE THAN 60000 SCHOOL
SERVICE WORKERS, INCLUDING
TEACHERS AIDES, BUS DRIVERS
AND CAFETERIA WORKERS HITTING
THE PICKET LINES AFTER
THEIR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS
STALLED.
>> TEACHERS SUPPORTING THEM IN
THE THREE DAY STRIKE.
WE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY
THE SERVICE WORKERS UNION
WITHOUT CONTRACT, SINCE 2024 IS
CALLING FOR HIGHER WAGES
AND CLAIMING THE SUPERINTENDENT
REPORTEDLY CALLED THEIR PLANNED
STRIKE A CIRCUS WITH MORE THAN
420000 STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT
OUT OF CLASS.
>> SOME PARENTS CONCERNED ABOUT
THE IMPACT ON THEIR KIDS FEEL
THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY BEING
LEFT BEHIND.
>> I KNOW PARENTS ARE
FRUSTRATED BY THE STRIKE, BUT
I WANT TO KNOW OUR WORKING
CONDITIONS, OUR CHILDREN'S
LEARNING CONDITIONS.
AND WE WHAT'S BEST FOR
OUR CHILDREN.
>> THE L.A. SCHOOL
SUPERINTENDENT SAYING
THEY'RE READY TO RETURN
TO NEGOTIATIONS AND DEFENDING
THE DISTRICT'S OFFER OF A 23
PERCENT PAY INCREASE OVER
FIVE YEARS.
BUT THE UNION SAYS THAT'S NOT
ENOUGH.
MANY SERVICE WORKERS LIVING
BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.
THE MEDIAN INCOME, JUST 25000
DOLLARS A YEAR.
>> I'M THE ONE TO PEOPLE THAT
WORKING TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT PRETTY
HARD.
GIVE A CHICK A CHICK COMMUNITY
VOLUNTEER STEPPING UP TO HELP
RECREATION CENTERS, PROVIDING
THREE DAYS WORTH OF SCHOOL
LUNCHES FOR LAUSD FAMILIES
TO PICK UP.
>> L.A. RAMS SUPER BOWL CHAMP
AARON DONALD.
AMONG THOSE PITCHING IN TO PACK
MEALS FOR STUDENTS.
>> AND DIANE COMPARING XI TO
GOT A SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
YESTERDAY EXPRESSING CONCERN
ABOUT WHAT THIS IS DOING FOR
STUDENTS.
ONE PARENT WENT SO FAR AS
TO SAY THE FINDINGS FROM
THE DISTRICT'S SHOULD BE ABOUT
EDUCATION.
HOWARD AM KAYNA WHITWORTH IN
LOS ANGELES.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS SAY
RUSSIA LAUNCHED
TWENTY ONE LETHAL ATTACK DRONES
OVERNIGHT, 16 OF WHICH WERE
SHOT DOWN.
THE ATTACKS CAME BEFORE CHINESE
LEADER XI JINPING HAD EVEN LEFT
MOSCOW AFTER A THREE DAY TRIP
WHERE HE MET WITH VLADIMIR
PUTIN.
>> THE TWO LEADERS PROCLAIMED
THEY WANT TO MAKE PEACE IN
UKRAINE.
FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT
TOM SOUFI BURRIDGE IS IN KYIV
WITH MORE TIME.
>> AN INTERESTING CHOICE OF
WORDS.
GIVEN WHAT WE'RE LEARNING NOW,
WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THIS
LATEST WAVE OF RUSSIAN ATTACKS
?
>> YET THE MOST BRAZEN ATTACK
DONE WAS IN THE SOUTHERN CITY
OF SEPARATION, HITTING AN
APARTMENT BLOCK RIGHT IN
THE CITY CENTER.
MORE THAN A DOZEN PEOPLE
INJURED, INCLUDING CHILDREN, AT
LEAST TWO PEOPLE IN A SERIOUS
CONDITION.
INCREDIBLY, NO ONE KILLED IN
THAT MISSILE ATTACK.
THE RUSSIANS ALSO LAUNCHING
LETHAL DRONE ATTACKS.
THOSE IRANIAN MADE DRONES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN THIS
REGION OF KYIV.
AND A TARGET HIT TO THE
SOUTHEAST OF KYIV IN A TOWN
THAT'S NOT CLEAR IN THAT CASE.
WHAT WAS THE SPECIFIC TARGET?
THEY HIT AN APARTMENT BUILDING,
BUT THE RUSSIANS ARE CLAIMING
THAT UKRAINIAN MILITARY
PERSONNEL WERE INSIDE.
THE UKRAINIANS DISPUTING THAT.
I MEAN, WE'RE IN A CEMETERY
JUST ON THE EDGE OF KYIV.
YOU CAN SEE THE MILITARY GRAVES
BEHIND ME.
ONE OF THOSE SOLDIERS KILLED IN
PARLIAMENT, AND THAT IS THE
CITY REALLY SEEING THE MOST
FIERCE FIGHTING RIGHT NOW IN
EASTERN UKRAINE.
AND PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY GOING
INTO THAT AREA WITHIN THE LAST
24 HOURS, MEETING TROOPS REALLY
IN A MESSAGE OF DEFIANCE
ON THE , YOU KNOW, THE WAKE OF
THAT SUMMIT FROM PRESIDENT XI
AND PRESIDENT PUTIN.
JUST AS THOSE THOSE LEADERS
WERE CALLING FOR SOME KIND OF
PEACE PROPOSAL.
RUSSIA WAS FIRING MISSILES
AND DRONES INTO UKRAINIAN
TERRITORY ONCE AGAIN AT
TODD ANT.
>> MEANWHILE, A GROUP OF
65 UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS ARE
WRAPPING UP TRAINING
ON THE PATRIOT SURFACE TO AIR
MISSILE SYSTEM IN OKLAHOMA.
SO WHEN COULD WE SEE THAT
DEPLOYED ON THE BATTLEFIELD?
AND HOW MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE
WOULD THAT MAKE?
>> YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT, DON .
THE 65 UKRAINIAN TROOPS THERE
TRAINING AT FORT SILL,
OKLAHOMA, ARE COMING TO AN END.
THAT MEANS THAT THE PATRIOT
SYSTEMS COULD BE IN UKRAINE
WITHIN A MATTER OF WEEKS,
ACCORDING TO U.S. OFFICIALS.
AND THAT'S HAPPENED
MORE QUICKLY THAN ANTICIPATED.
THAT'S BECAUSE THOSE UKRAINIAN
TROOPS HAVE SURPASSED
EXPECTATIONS.
THEY'VE ONCE AGAIN,
THE UKRAINIAN MILITARY PROVED
THEMSELVES TO BE ADEPT AT
ADAPTING TO NEW, HIGHLY COMPLEX
SYSTEMS.
THOSE PATRIOTS ARE GOING
TO MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE AT
THE HIGH END OF ALL
THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF AIR
DEFENSE SYSTEMS, WHICH THE WEST
WEST HAVE GIVEN UKRAINE.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A BIG
DIFFERENCE PROTECTING UKRAINIAN
CITIES.
WE'VE ALSO GOT A BIG UPDATE
ON U.S. TANKS.
THE U.S. HAS CHANGED ITS
STRATEGY.
IT WAS GOING TO PROVIDE
THE LATEST VERSION OF
THE ABRAMS TANKS TO THE
UKRAINIAN MILITARY.
BUT ACTUALLY , THEY'RE GOING
TO PROVIDE AN OLDER VERSION.
NOW, THE REASON BEING, IT MEANS
THEY CAN GET THOSE OLDER,
REFURBISHED VERSIONS MUCH
MORE QUICKLY INTO UKRAINE.
THOSE ABRAMS TANKS COULD
BE HERE BY THE FALL.
>> DIANE BURRAGE IN KYIV.
TOM , THANK YOU.
STAY SAFE .
COMING UP, IT'S THE EXCLUSIVE
SOCIAL CLUB WORKING TO SUPPORT
AND MOBILIZE PEOPLE OF COLOR
WITH THE BROTHERS BEHIND HQ,
D.C. HOUSE.
AND YOU HAVE ARE WORKING
TO INSPIRE THE NEXT GENERATION.
ALSO AHEAD, COULD ELECTRIC
VEHICLES KILL A HAM RADIO?
WE'LL BREAK DOWN THE BATTLE
BREWING OVER WHETHER TO REMOVE
THE FREQUENCY AFTER THIS BACK .
>> WELCOME BACK.
LAWMAKERS ARE FIGHTING TO KEEP
A HAM RADIO IN CARS AFTER
ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS
SAY THEY PLAN TO PHASE IT OUT
FROM NEWER VEHICLES.
SUPPORTERS SAY IT'S NEEDED FOR
PUBLIC SAFETY AND EMERGENCY
ALERT INFORMATION.
ABC'S DAHLA MILES HAS THAT
STORY.
>> I WOULD THINK THAT IF ELON
MUSK HAS ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY
TWITTER AND SEND ROCKETS
TO SPACE, HE CAN AFFORD
TO INCLUDE A HAM RADIO IN HIS
TESLA.
>> THE HIGH VOLTAGE
AND ELECTRIC CARS CREATES TOO
MUCH STATIC TO HEAR AND RADIO
STATIONS CLEARLY SO IN 2018,
TESLA TOOK IT OUT.
FORD IS NOW FOLLOWING SUIT
BEHIND THE AUDI, PORSCHE, VOLVO
AND VOLKSWAGEN.
EVEY'S.
THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR
SOME LAWMAKERS WHO ARE
PROPOSING LEGISLATION TO STOP
THE DECISION TO REMOVE AMN
RADIOS FROM OUR CARS AND TRUCKS
PUTS PUBLIC SAFETY AT RISK.
>> THERE ARE 4500 AM RADIO
STATIONS NATIONWIDE, 77 IN
NEW JERSEY, WITH 50 MILLION
LISTENERS DURING 9/11.
SUPERSTORM SANDY, EVEN
THE JANUARY POWERGRID ATTACK IN
NORTH CAROLINA, A HAM RADIO WAS
THE PRIMARY MEANS OF
COMMUNICATION.
BOARD ISSUED A STATEMENT SAYING
A MAJORITY OF U.S. STATIONS
AND AUTOMAKERS GLOBALLY ARE
MODERNIZING RADIO BY OFFERING
INTERNET STREAMING THROUGH
MOBILE APPS FM DIGITAL
AND SATELLITE RADIO OPTIONS.
FORD WILL CONTINUE TO OFFER
THESE AS AN ALTERNATIVE.
AS WE REMOVE AMPLITUDE
MODULATION, THE DEFINITION OF
AM.
>> IN THIS CASE, THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE LISTENING TO AM RADIO
MAKE UP A FAIRLY SMALL PORTION
OF OUR CUSTOMER BASE OR MANY AM
RADIO IS A CREATURE COMFORT.
>> THE GOOD THING ABOUT RADIO
IS IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR OVER
100 YEARS AND THE THE DEATH OF
IT HAS BEEN YEILD MANY TIMES.
WBCSD DALIL MILES, THANK YOU
FOR THAT.
COMING UP AT THE BLACK OWNED
BUSINESS, TAKING ON EXCLUSIVE
SOCIAL CLUBS LIKE SOHO HOUSE
GO INSIDE THE MEMBERS
ONLY WORKSPACE.
AMY PHIL LIPOF COMMUNITYRY IS .
>> WE'LL TAKE YOU THERE.
YOU'RE STREAMING,
"ABC NEWS LIVE".
WELCOME BACK, MEMBERS.
ONLY CREATIVE SPACES LIKE SOHO
HOUSE HAVE BECOME INCREASINGLY
POPULAR IN MAJOR, MAJOR CITIES
AROUND THE WORLD.
NOW THE SO-CALLED BERN'S
BROTHERS ARE GETTING IN
ON THE ACTION WITH AN
EMPOWERING TWIST.
IKE EJIOCHI HAS THE STORY
BEHIND HQ DC HOUSE.
>> WELCOME , WELCOME ,
WELCOME , WELCOME .
IT'S THE FIRST OF ITS KIND CLUB
ON THE DC, AC, DC AS A MEMBERS
ONLY LUXURY KIND OF SOCIAL
AND CULTURAL SPACE HERE IN
WASHINGTON, DC.
>> FOUR STORIES AND TWELVE
THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF
WORKSPACES LOUNGES.
A BARISTA, A WELLNESS SPACE AND
EVEN A ROOM FOR MUSIC SESSIONS.
AND IT'S BUILT TO SUPPORT
MOBILIZE PEOPLE OF COLOR.
>> THERE'S NO REAL SPACE FOR
YOU TO GO.
IT FEELS LUXURY THAT FEELS
SPECIAL TO WHERE YOU CAN EITHER
GO TO INTERACT WITH PEOPLE ARE
YOU CAN JUST KIND OF COME
TO JUST DECOMPRESS AND BE
YOURSELF.
>> HOW LONG IS IT GOING
TO TAKE, DO YOU THINK?
HOPEFULLY WHAT I DO, THAT'S
MIKE AND JOHN BURNS,
THE CORPORATE EXECUTIVE
AND ATTORNEY, ARE THE CREATORS
OF HQ HOUSE.
FOR A FEE, THE BURNS BROTHERS
SAY MEMBERS WILL HAVE ACCESS
TO ALL OF THESE SPACES
TO NETWORK AND COLLABORATE.
THERE'S VERY HIGH END KIND OF
COWORKING OPPORTUNITIES DURING
THE DAY DURING THE WEEK AND ON
THE WEEKENDS TO HAVE ABOUT
FIFTEEN EVENTS AND ACTIVATIONS
A MONTH FOR MEMBERS FROM, YOU
KNOW, VERY HIGH END DINNER
SERIES TO GAME NIGHT WATCH
PARTIES THERE AIDING
AND ABETTING THE DREAMS OF
OTHERS, NAMELY PEOPLE OF COLOR
AND MORE SPECIFICALLY,
BLACK PEOPLE, THE BIRCH
BROTHERS, FROM GETTING
SOME HELP WITH A LITTLE STAR
POWER.
WE NEED YOU ON THE STREETS.
I'M THE GAME.
AWARD WINNING ACTOR OMARI
HARDWICK PLAYED GHOST IN
THE HIT SHOW POWER.
>> HE'S KNOWN THE BROTHERS FOR
NEARLY 15 YEARS.
WORKING WITH THEM ON SEVERAL
VENTURES.
>> THE BURNS BROTHERS HAVE
REALLY BECOME IN THEIR OWN
RIGHT, A SORT OF MOVEMENT, IF
YOU WILL , A SORT OF NEW CIVIL
RIGHTS MOVEMENT.
>> A MOVEMENT THAT'S IN
THEIR BLOOD.
>> DR DIANA BURNS, BANKS
IS THEIR MOTHER.
SHE PROVIDED HEALTH CARE
TO CHILDREN LIVING IN POVERTY
BY CREATING ONE OF TEXAS'S
LARGEST PRIVATE PEDIATRIC
PRACTICES.
>> RAISED IN THE 50S AND 60S.
DR. BURNS BANKS WAS ONE OF
THE FIRST STUDENTS
TO DESEGREGATE HER SCHOOL IN
MERIDIAN, MISSISSIPPI.
AND IT'S A REAL STRANGE TO SEE
DISCRIMINATION IS SUCH A FORM
WHERE YOU CAN COME AND SIT IN
A ROOM AND EVERYBODY MOVES
THEIR CHAIR AWAY FROM YOU,
WHICH IS A STRANGE FEELING.
>> THEY LEAVE YOU SITTING IN
THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM ALONE,
ALONE.
BUT YOU IT RATHER THAN MAKING
YOU FEEL ALONE, IT MAKES YOU
FEEL DETERMINED, MADE US FEEL
DETERMINED THAT WE WOULD, NO
MATTER WHAT, WE WOULD SUCCEED.
>> SHE ENROLLED HER BOYS INTO
MILITARY SCHOOL WHERE THEY BOTH
EARNED HIGH HONORS.
MIKE WENT ON TO FLY APACHE
HELICOPTERS IN AFGHANISTAN, IN
IRAQ AND WAS SELECTED BY GEN..
DAVID PETRAEUS TO LEAD
THE REBUILD OF FOUR CITIES IN
NORTHERN IRAQ.
HIS BROTHER JOHN BECAME
THE FIRST BLACK PARTNER IN HIS
LAW FIRM, EVENTUALLY COMING
TOGETHER AGAIN TO BUILD UP
THEIR COMMUNITIES FOR
THEIR MULTIPLE COMPANIES.
>> WE HAVE A CORE DNA
AND TALENT AND CULTURE COMPANY
CALLED THE COLLECTIVE.
WE HAVE A MARKETING
COMMUNICATION COMPANY CALLED
MANCHESTER PARC.
WE HAVE A CELEBRITY SPEAKER
SERIES CALLED ICON TALKS.
WE ALSO HAVE A PRODUCTION
COMPANY CALLED STYLE BY THE
BURNS BROTHERS.
AND THEN FINALLY, OUR FIT
COMPANY IS HQ DC HOUSE.
>> IT'S AN IDEA THAT STARTED IN
THE SUMMER OF 2024 AND HANDS
ON RACIAL JUSTICE.
>> PROTESTS ERUPTED ACROSS
THE COUNTRY FOLLOWING
THE KILLING OF GEORGE FLOYD AT
THE HANDS OF MINNEAPOLIS.
>> POLICE OFFICERS IN MY OFFICE
,MY TV AND MY BACKGROUND.
AND IT'S PLAYING THE EIGHT
AND A HALF MINUTE VIDEO OVER
AND OVER AND OVER.
>> GEORGE FLOYD AND THEN BEHIND
MY COMPUTER MONITORS, I HAVE
A PICTURE OF MY TWO LITTLE
BLACK BOYS, AND I'M ON THIS
PHONE CALL TALKING ABOUT REAL
ESTATE DOWNSIZING.
AND I WAS LIKE, HOW IN
THE WORLD IS THIS PHONE CALL
GOING TO CHANGE THE SITUATION
FOR MY LITTLE BLACK BOYS?
SO IT NEVER BECOMES LIKE WHAT'S
HAPPENING ON THE TV?
AND I HOPE THE PHONE CALL
I PICKED UP THE PHONE
AND CALLED JOHN AND I SAID, DO
YOU WANT TO GO OUT AND CHANGE
THE WORLD?
>> BOTH BROTHERS LEFT
THEIR LUCRATIVE CORPORATE JOBS
TO GO ALL IN ON THE BURNS
BROTHERS FIRM.
AN UMBRELLA CORPORATION
CONTAINING FIVE COMPANIES.
TAYLOR TO SERVE COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR.
>> ALL OF OUR COMPANIES ARE
REALLY BUILT AROUND
THE IMPORTANCE OF EMPOWERING,
UPLIFTING, SUPPORTING
AND MOBILIZING COMMUNITY
AND REALLY UPLIFTING THE VOICES
THAT ARE UNDERREPRESENTED,
UNHEARD, THE BURNS BROTHERS ARE
UPLIFTING PEOPLE OF COLOR IN
THEIR OWN WAY.
THEY'RE BREAKING DOWN
STEREOTYPES CATERING TO AN
UNDERSERVED DEMOGRAPHIC
AND SETTING STRONG, POSITIVE
EXAMPLES FOR THE NEXT
GENERATION.
IKE EJIOCHI, THANK YOU FOR THAT
AND THANK YOU FOR STREAMING
WITH US.
I'M DIANE MACEDO
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