WHATEVER THE STORY IS , WE'LL TAKE WE'LL TAKE THEIR YOU'RE STREAMING THEIR YOU'RE STREAMING "ABC NEWS LIVE". "ABC NEWS LIVE". I DIANE MACEDO TODAY I DIANE MACEDO TODAY ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". THE URGENT SEARCH IN THE IOWA THE URGENT SEARCH IN THE IOWA BUILDING COLLAPSE. BUILDING COLLAPSE. OFFICIALS NOW SAY TWO PEOPLE OFFICIALS NOW SAY TWO PEOPLE ARE STILL TRAPPED INSIDE ARE STILL TRAPPED INSIDE AS FEARS GROW. AS FEARS GROW. THE ENTIRE BUILDING COULD FALL THE ENTIRE BUILDING COULD FALL AT ANY MOMENT. AT ANY MOMENT. THE DEBT LIMIT DEAL HEADS TO A THE DEBT LIMIT DEAL HEADS TO A CRUCIAL VOTE IN THE HOUSE CRUCIAL VOTE IN THE HOUSE TODAY. TODAY. PRESIDENT BIDEN AND SPEAKER PRESIDENT BIDEN AND SPEAKER MCCARTHY ARE RACING TO SELL MCCARTHY ARE RACING TO SELL THE DEAL AS MCCARTHY EVENT IN IOWA, TAKING AIM AT DONALD TRUMP IN HIS SHARPEST DONALD TRUMP IN HIS SHARPEST ATTACKS YET. ATTACKS YET. WHAT IT ALL MEANS FOR THE RACE WHAT IT ALL MEANS FOR THE RACE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE, THE DIRE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE, THE DIRE WARNING ABOUT ARTIFICIAL WARNING ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. INTELLIGENCE. WHY TOP EXPERTS SAY HE POSES WHY TOP EXPERTS SAY HE POSES A , QUOTE, RISK OF EXTINCTION, A , QUOTE, RISK OF EXTINCTION, COMPARING IT TO CONDEMN COMPARING IT TO CONDEMN A NUCLEAR WAR. A NUCLEAR WAR. AND IT WAS LIKE REALLY FAST AND IT WAS LIKE REALLY FAST AND FURIOUS HOW THIS AND FURIOUS HOW THIS CAR LAUNCHED OFF THE BACK OF CAR LAUNCHED OFF THE BACK OF A TOW TRUCK AT FULL SPEED, A TOW TRUCK AT FULL SPEED, FLYING ONE HUNDRED TWENTY FEET FLYING ONE HUNDRED TWENTY FEET IN THE AIR BEFORE CRASHING. IN THE AIR BEFORE CRASHING. >> WHAT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT >> WHAT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT THE DRIVER. THE DRIVER. >> WE BEGIN WITH THE LATEST >> WE BEGIN WITH THE LATEST ON THE IOWA APARTMENT BUILDING ON THE IOWA APARTMENT BUILDING COLLAPSE. COLLAPSE. AN URGENT SEARCH IS UNDERWAY AN URGENT SEARCH IS UNDERWAY FOR FIVE MISSING PEOPLE, FOR FIVE MISSING PEOPLE, INCLUDING TWO WHO ARE BELIEVED INCLUDING TWO WHO ARE BELIEVED TO STILL BE INSIDE. TO STILL BE INSIDE. OFFICIALS PREVIOUSLY CALLED OFF OFFICIALS PREVIOUSLY CALLED OFF THE SEARCH. THE SEARCH. NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO SAFELY NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO SAFELY RESUME IT, BUT THEY WARN RESUME IT, BUT THEY WARN THE BUILDING COULD COME THE BUILDING COULD COME CRASHING DOWN AT ANY MOMENT. CRASHING DOWN AT ANY MOMENT. ALEX PEREZ IS IN DAVENPORT, ALEX PEREZ IS IN DAVENPORT, IOWA, WITH THE LATEST. IOWA, WITH THE LATEST. >> A DESPERATE SEARCH FOR THOSE >> A DESPERATE SEARCH FOR THOSE STILL MISSING AFTER THIS STILL MISSING AFTER THIS APARTMENT BUILDING PARTIALLY APARTMENT BUILDING PARTIALLY COLLAPSED IN DAVENPORT, IOWA. COLLAPSED IN DAVENPORT, IOWA. >> THE BUILDING JUST COLLAPSED >> THE BUILDING JUST COLLAPSED . . >> OFFICIALS WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY >> OFFICIALS WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY CALLED OFF THE SEARCH NOW SAY CALLED OFF THE SEARCH NOW SAY FIVE PEOPLE ARE STILL FIVE PEOPLE ARE STILL UNACCOUNTED FOR, TWO OF THEM UNACCOUNTED FOR, TWO OF THEM BELIEVED TO BE INSIDE. BELIEVED TO BE INSIDE. WE ARE CURRENTLY EVALUATING WE ARE CURRENTLY EVALUATING THE RISK ASSESSMENT OF WHERE WE THE RISK ASSESSMENT OF WHERE WE CAN GO BACK INTO THAT BUILDING CAN GO BACK INTO THAT BUILDING TO DO THIS OTHER SEARCH. TO DO THIS OTHER SEARCH. WE'RE VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THE WE'RE VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE'S POSSIBILITY THAT THERE'S TWO PEOPLE, THAT THERE'S TWO PEOPLE, THAT THERE'S TWO PEOPLE STILL LEFT INSIDE. TWO PEOPLE STILL LEFT INSIDE. CALLS GROWING FOR RESCUERS CALLS GROWING FOR RESCUERS TO KEEP LOOKING AFTER. TO KEEP LOOKING AFTER. OFFICIALS INITIALLY PLANNED OFFICIALS INITIALLY PLANNED TO BEGIN DEMOLISHING A BUILDING TO BEGIN DEMOLISHING A BUILDING TUESDAY. TUESDAY. >> RHIANNON ALLY RYAN HITCHCOCK >> RHIANNON ALLY RYAN HITCHCOCK AND BRANDEN COLVIN ARE THE TWO AND BRANDEN COLVIN ARE THE TWO BELIEVED TO BE TRAPPED INSIDE BELIEVED TO BE TRAPPED INSIDE THEIR FAMILIES, HANGING ON TO THEIR FAMILIES, HANGING ON TO HOPE. HOPE. >> AND UP THERE WHERE YOU SEE >> AND UP THERE WHERE YOU SEE THOSE FLOATING AND THAT WAS THOSE FLOATING AND THAT WAS YOUR APARTMENT KNOWING THAT YOUR APARTMENT KNOWING THAT THE CITY WAS CONSIDERING THE CITY WAS CONSIDERING DEMOLISHING AS EARLY AS TODAY. DEMOLISHING AS EARLY AS TODAY. IT'S LIKE BEARING DOWN IN IT'S LIKE BEARING DOWN IN THE RUBBLE MORE THAN 24 HOURS THE RUBBLE MORE THAN 24 HOURS AFTER THE COLLAPSE. AFTER THE COLLAPSE. SEE ALL 52 YEAR OLD LISA BROOKS SEE ALL 52 YEAR OLD LISA BROOKS WAS RESCUED FROM THE FOURTH WAS RESCUED FROM THE FOURTH FLOOR. FLOOR. FINALLY REACHING HER PHONE FINALLY REACHING HER PHONE TO CALL FOR HELP. TO CALL FOR HELP. >> I WAS JUST SO RIGHT THAT >> I WAS JUST SO RIGHT THAT I WAS GOING TO DIE AND I'LL SEE I WAS GOING TO DIE AND I'LL SEE MY MY GRANDKIDS. MY MY GRANDKIDS. >> I WILL FIND THE CAUSE OF >> I WILL FIND THE CAUSE OF THE COLLAPSE NOW UNDER THE COLLAPSE NOW UNDER INVESTIGATION IN THE BUILDING INVESTIGATION IN THE BUILDING HAD A HISTORY OF COMPLAINTS HAD A HISTORY OF COMPLAINTS AND OWNERS WERE ORDERED TO MAKE AND OWNERS WERE ORDERED TO MAKE FIXES. FIXES. THIS SECTION OF THE EXTERIOR THIS SECTION OF THE EXTERIOR WALL WAS BEING REPAIRED LAST WALL WAS BEING REPAIRED LAST WEEK AND JOINS ME NOW FROM WEEK AND JOINS ME NOW FROM DAVENPORT, IOWA. DAVENPORT, IOWA. ALEX , WHAT'S THE LATEST ALEX , WHAT'S THE LATEST ON THESE SEARCH AND RESCUE ON THESE SEARCH AND RESCUE EFFORTS? EFFORTS? >> WELL, AUTHORITIES ARE VERY, >> WELL, AUTHORITIES ARE VERY, VERY CONCERNED THAT THIS VERY CONCERNED THAT THIS STRUCTURE COULD COLLAPSE AT ANY STRUCTURE COULD COLLAPSE AT ANY MOMENT. MOMENT. AND SO THEY SAY SIMPLY WALKING AND SO THEY SAY SIMPLY WALKING BACK IN THERE TO CONDUCT BACK IN THERE TO CONDUCT A SEARCH IS NOT REALLY A SEARCH IS NOT REALLY ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ALL THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ALL THE OPTIONS, CONSIDERING ALL THE OPTIONS, CONSIDERING ALL OPTIONS ON HOW TO SAFELY OPTIONS ON HOW TO SAFELY GET BACK INSIDE OF THIS GET BACK INSIDE OF THIS BUILDING. BUILDING. ONE OF THEM WOULD BE USING ONE OF THEM WOULD BE USING DRONES. DRONES. AUTHORITIES SAY THEY'RE WORKING AUTHORITIES SAY THEY'RE WORKING WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER AGENCIES WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER AGENCIES TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN SAFELY GET BACK INSIDE OF THIS SAFELY GET BACK INSIDE OF THIS BUILDING. BUILDING. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, DIANE , BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, DIANE , THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE STILL THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON , GETTING BACK IN WORKING ON , GETTING BACK IN THERE RIGHT NOW. THERE RIGHT NOW. >> EXPRESS IN DAVENPORT, IOWA. >> EXPRESS IN DAVENPORT, IOWA. THANK YOU . THANK YOU . AND THE HOUSE IS EXPECTED AND THE HOUSE IS EXPECTED TO VOTE ON A DEAL TO RAISE TO VOTE ON A DEAL TO RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT TODAY. THE DEBT LIMIT TODAY. PRESIDENT BIDEN AND HOUSE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND HOUSE SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY SAY SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY SAY THEY'RE CONFIDENT THEY HAVE THEY'RE CONFIDENT THEY HAVE THE VOTES, BUT A GROWING NUMBER THE VOTES, BUT A GROWING NUMBER OF MEMBERS ARE SLAMMING OF MEMBERS ARE SLAMMING THE DEAL THEY BROKERED. THE DEAL THEY BROKERED. SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT RACHEL SCOTT HAS CORRESPONDENT RACHEL SCOTT HAS THE LATEST WITH THE VOTE IN THE LATEST WITH THE VOTE IN THE HOUSE NOW JUST HOURS AWAY, THE HOUSE NOW JUST HOURS AWAY, PRESIDENT BIDEN AND HOUSE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND HOUSE SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY RACING SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY RACING TO SELL THEIR DEAL AND AVOID TO SELL THEIR DEAL AND AVOID A DEVASTATING DEFAULT OF MANY A DEVASTATING DEFAULT OF MANY VOTES THIS WEEKEND. VOTES THIS WEEKEND. BUT MCCARTHY IS FACING GROWING BUT MCCARTHY IS FACING GROWING OPPOSITION WITHIN HIS OWN OPPOSITION WITHIN HIS OWN PARTY. PARTY. CONSERVATIVES WHO SAY THE BILL CONSERVATIVES WHO SAY THE BILL DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH TO CUT DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH TO CUT SPENDING. SPENDING. >> YOU READ THE BILL. >> YOU READ THE BILL. WHERE DO YOU STAND? WHERE DO YOU STAND? IT'S A TERRIBLE BILL , PLAIN IT'S A TERRIBLE BILL , PLAIN AND SIMPLE. AND SIMPLE. A DISASTER. A DISASTER. IT IS . IT IS . IT IS A IT IS A FISCAL DISASTER IT IS A IT IS A FISCAL DISASTER FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN A SURPRISE TURN THE REPUBLICAN A SURPRISE TURN THE REPUBLICAN DEMAND FOR STRICTER WORK DEMAND FOR STRICTER WORK REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME OLDER REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME OLDER AMERICANS ON FOOD ASSISTANCE AMERICANS ON FOOD ASSISTANCE ACTUALLY INCREASED SPENDING ACTUALLY INCREASED SPENDING BY TWO BILLION DOLLARS AND MAKE BY TWO BILLION DOLLARS AND MAKE 78000 MORE PEOPLE ELIGIBLE FOR 78000 MORE PEOPLE ELIGIBLE FOR AID MONTHLY. AID MONTHLY. YOU SAID THAT REPUBLICANS WERE YOU SAID THAT REPUBLICANS WERE OUTSMARTED BY DEMOCRATS. OUTSMARTED BY DEMOCRATS. WE GOT FLEECED 100% ALREADY AT WE GOT FLEECED 100% ALREADY AT LEAST THIRTY TWO HOUSE LEAST THIRTY TWO HOUSE REPUBLICANS SAY THEY WILL REPUBLICANS SAY THEY WILL VOTE NO , SOME EVEN SUGGESTING VOTE NO , SOME EVEN SUGGESTING MCCARTHY HIMSELF IS THE MCCARTHY HIMSELF IS THE PROBLEM. PROBLEM. DO YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE IN DO YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE IN SPEAKER MCCARTHY? SPEAKER MCCARTHY? >> MCCARTHY HAS LOST SOME TRUST >> MCCARTHY HAS LOST SOME TRUST IN HOW THIS HAS BEEN HANDLED. IN HOW THIS HAS BEEN HANDLED. NONE. NONE. >> ZERO. >> ZERO. WHAT BASIS IS THERE FOR WHAT BASIS IS THERE FOR CONFIDENCE? CONFIDENCE? MCCARTHY BRUSHING IT ALL OFF. MCCARTHY BRUSHING IT ALL OFF. >> WHAT'S YOUR MESSAGE TO SOME >> WHAT'S YOUR MESSAGE TO SOME OF THE HOLDOUTS, REPUBLICANS OF THE HOLDOUTS, REPUBLICANS WHO SAY THAT REPUBLICANS WERE WHO SAY THAT REPUBLICANS WERE OUTSMARTED IN THIS DEAL ? OUTSMARTED IN THIS DEAL ? >> THAT'S INTERESTING. >> THAT'S INTERESTING. THOUGH. THOUGH. HOW WERE WE OUTSMARTED? HOW WERE WE OUTSMARTED? THE LARGEST CUT IN THE HISTORY THE LARGEST CUT IN THE HISTORY OF CONGRESS, THE BIGGEST OF CONGRESS, THE BIGGEST ABILITY TO PULL MONEY BACK ? ABILITY TO PULL MONEY BACK ? >> THE DEAL WOULD STILL CUT >> THE DEAL WOULD STILL CUT ONE POINT FIVE TRILLION OVER ONE POINT FIVE TRILLION OVER A DECADE, CLAWING BACK BILLIONS A DECADE, CLAWING BACK BILLIONS IN COVID RELIEF AND IRS FUNDING IN COVID RELIEF AND IRS FUNDING AND ENDING BIDEN'S FREEZE AND ENDING BIDEN'S FREEZE ON STUDENT LOAN PAYMENTS IN ON STUDENT LOAN PAYMENTS IN AUGUST TO GET IT PASSED. AUGUST TO GET IT PASSED. MCCARTHY WILL NEED DEMOCRATS MCCARTHY WILL NEED DEMOCRATS ON BOARD TO BUT SUPPORT FROM ON BOARD TO BUT SUPPORT FROM PROGRESSIVES ISN'T GUARANTEED. PROGRESSIVES ISN'T GUARANTEED. >> I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE >> I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF NO A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF NO VOTES AND MCCARTHY IS GOING VOTES AND MCCARTHY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BRING HIS VOTES TO HAVE TO BRING HIS VOTES TO THE TABLE FOR HIS DEAL . TO THE TABLE FOR HIS DEAL . SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT RACHEL SCOTT CORRESPONDENT RACHEL SCOTT JOINS ME LIVE NOW FOR MORE ON JOINS ME LIVE NOW FOR MORE ON THIS. THIS. RACHEL , WHAT CAN WE EXPECT RACHEL , WHAT CAN WE EXPECT FROM THIS VOTE TODAY? FROM THIS VOTE TODAY? DOES THIS DEAL HAVE THE VOTES DOES THIS DEAL HAVE THE VOTES TO PASS? TO PASS? WELL, IF YOU ASK WELL, IF YOU ASK PRESIDENT BIDEN OR HOUSE PRESIDENT BIDEN OR HOUSE SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY, SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY, THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT IT DOES THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT IT DOES HAVE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND IT HAVE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND IT DOES HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORT DOES HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORT BETWEEN DEMOCRATS BETWEEN DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS TO MAKE IT AND REPUBLICANS TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE HOUSE TONIGHT. THROUGH THE HOUSE TONIGHT. BUT LOOK, THIS IS NOT EXACTLY BUT LOOK, THIS IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT EITHER LEADER REALLY WHAT EITHER LEADER REALLY WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE GROWING WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE GROWING NUMBER OF LAWMAKERS IN NUMBER OF LAWMAKERS IN THE HOURS AHEAD OF THIS THE HOURS AHEAD OF THIS CRITICAL VOTE . CRITICAL VOTE . THIS FRUSTRATION OVER THINGS IN THIS FRUSTRATION OVER THINGS IN THIS DEAL , THE FACT THAT MANY THIS DEAL , THE FACT THAT MANY OF THESE MEMBERS ARE NOT HAPPY OF THESE MEMBERS ARE NOT HAPPY FROM CONSERVATIVES FROM CONSERVATIVES ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE TO PROGRESSIVES TO PROGRESSIVES ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. BOTH ON THE FENCE HERE, BOTH ON THE FENCE HERE, SIGNALING THAT THEY MAY SIGNALING THAT THEY MAY ACTUALLY VOTE NO. ACTUALLY VOTE NO. THE BOTTOM LINE HERE, THOUGH, THE BOTTOM LINE HERE, THOUGH, IS HOUSE SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY IS HOUSE SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY REALLY WANTS TO KEEP REALLY WANTS TO KEEP THE MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS THE MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS ON BOARD WITH THIS DEAL . ON BOARD WITH THIS DEAL . AND SO HE'S GOING TO BE WORKING AND SO HE'S GOING TO BE WORKING HARD IN THESE FINAL HOURS HARD IN THESE FINAL HOURS TO MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS ENOUGH REPUBLICANS BEHIND THIS. REPUBLICANS BEHIND THIS. HE DOES KNOW THAT HE WILL LEAVE HE DOES KNOW THAT HE WILL LEAVE SOME CONSERVATIVES THAT SOME CONSERVATIVES THAT WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS, BUT WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS, BUT HE'S HOPING THAT THE MAJORITY HE'S HOPING THAT THE MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS DO END UP OF REPUBLICANS DO END UP BACKING THIS DOES COME TO THE BACKING THIS DOES COME TO THE FLOOR LATER TODAY. FLOOR LATER TODAY. >> NOW, REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN >> NOW, REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN CHIP ROY SAYS THERE WILL BE CHIP ROY SAYS THERE WILL BE A RECKONING UNLESS THIS BILL IS A RECKONING UNLESS THIS BILL IS BLOCKED. BLOCKED. WHAT COULD THAT MEAN FOR WHAT COULD THAT MEAN FOR KEVIN MCCARTHY AND THE KEVIN MCCARTHY AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY? REPUBLICAN PARTY? >> WELL, DIANE , SO MUCH WHAT >> WELL, DIANE , SO MUCH WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THE REALITIES WE ARE SEEING IS THE REALITIES OF WHAT SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY OF WHAT SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY PROMISED IN ORDER TO GET PROMISED IN ORDER TO GET THE SPEAKER'S GAVEL. THE SPEAKER'S GAVEL. WE DID SEE THIS RULE THAT WE DID SEE THIS RULE THAT REQUIRING 72 HOURS FOR MEMBERS REQUIRING 72 HOURS FOR MEMBERS TO ACTUALLY REVIEW THE TEXT OF TO ACTUALLY REVIEW THE TEXT OF THIS LEGISLATION. THIS LEGISLATION. ANOTHER THING THAT MCCARTHY ANOTHER THING THAT MCCARTHY ALSO PROMISED DURING THAT ALSO PROMISED DURING THAT ONGOING SPEAKER WAS ALSO ONGOING SPEAKER WAS ALSO THE IDEA OF THIS MOTION THE IDEA OF THIS MOTION TO VACATE. TO VACATE. THAT SIMPLY MEANS THAT A SINGLE THAT SIMPLY MEANS THAT A SINGLE MEMBER COULD MOVE FORWARD MEMBER COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH A VOTE TO REMOVE WITH A VOTE TO REMOVE THE SPEAKER FROM HIS POSITION. THE SPEAKER FROM HIS POSITION. NOW, YOU HEARD THERE IN NOW, YOU HEARD THERE IN MY PIECE, I TALKED TO A LOT OF MY PIECE, I TALKED TO A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES THAT ARE CONSERVATIVES THAT ARE EXPRESSING A LOT OF DOUBT IN EXPRESSING A LOT OF DOUBT IN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE LEADERSHIP OF KEVIN MCCARTHY. KEVIN MCCARTHY. THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY ARE THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY ARE VERY FRUSTRATED THAT THEY HAVE VERY FRUSTRATED THAT THEY HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH HOW THIS SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH HOW THIS DEAL WAS BROKERED. DEAL WAS BROKERED. ONE EVEN SAYING THAT THEY THINK ONE EVEN SAYING THAT THEY THINK THAT ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS THAT ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS COULD HAVE BROKERED A BETTER COULD HAVE BROKERED A BETTER DEAL . DEAL . AT THE END OF THE DAY, MCCARTHY AT THE END OF THE DAY, MCCARTHY VERY MUCH PUSHING BACK AGAINST VERY MUCH PUSHING BACK AGAINST THAT CRITICISM. THAT CRITICISM. AND I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK AND I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT WE ARE THERE YET WHERE THAT WE ARE THERE YET WHERE YOU SEE THIS GROUNDSWELL OF YOU SEE THIS GROUNDSWELL OF SUPPORT TO REMOVE SPEAKER SUPPORT TO REMOVE SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY FROM HIS KEVIN MCCARTHY FROM HIS POSITION. POSITION. BUT IT DOES SAY SOMETHING THAT BUT IT DOES SAY SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE STARTING TO HEAR. YOU ARE STARTING TO HEAR. REPUBLICANS OPENLY AND PUBLICLY REPUBLICANS OPENLY AND PUBLICLY EXPRESSED SO MUCH FRUSTRATION EXPRESSED SO MUCH FRUSTRATION WITH THE SPEAKER. WITH THE SPEAKER. >> I AM. >> I AM. SO, RACHEL , WHAT HAPPENS IF WE SO, RACHEL , WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T GET A DEAL HERE? DON'T GET A DEAL HERE? >> IF WE DO NOT GET A DEAL , >> IF WE DO NOT GET A DEAL , THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE DIRE THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE DIRE . . THE NATION IS NOW JUST A FEW THE NATION IS NOW JUST A FEW DAYS AWAY FROM DEFAULT, DAYS AWAY FROM DEFAULT, SOMETHING THAT HAS NEVER SOMETHING THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN OUR NATION'S HAPPENED BEFORE IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY. HISTORY. THE TREASURY SECRETARY THE TREASURY SECRETARY IS WARNING THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS WARNING THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL RUN OUT OF THE MONEY THAT WILL RUN OUT OF THE MONEY THAT IT NEEDS TO PAY THE NATION'S IT NEEDS TO PAY THE NATION'S BILLS BY JUNE 5TH. BILLS BY JUNE 5TH. SO THAT DOES NOT LEAVE A LOT OF SO THAT DOES NOT LEAVE A LOT OF TIME FOR ANY OF THIS BILL TO TIME FOR ANY OF THIS BILL TO MAKE IT THROUGH BOTH CHAMBERS MAKE IT THROUGH BOTH CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS. OF CONGRESS. IF THE NATION DEFAULTS. IF THE NATION DEFAULTS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TROOPS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TROOPS GOING UNPAID SOCIAL SECURITY GOING UNPAID SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS WOULD BE DELAYED. PAYMENTS WOULD BE DELAYED. AND AN ESTIMATED EIGHT MILLION AND AN ESTIMATED EIGHT MILLION AMERICANS WOULD BE AT RISK OF AMERICANS WOULD BE AT RISK OF LOSING THEIR JOBS, WHICH IS WHY LOSING THEIR JOBS, WHICH IS WHY YOU'RE SEEING THE PRESIDENT YOU'RE SEEING THE PRESIDENT AND SPEAKER MCCARTHY REALLY AND SPEAKER MCCARTHY REALLY GO ON AN ALL OUT OFFENSIVE GO ON AN ALL OUT OFFENSIVE HERE, TRYING TO GET THIS HERE, TRYING TO GET THIS BILL THROUGH THE HOUSE SO BILL THROUGH THE HOUSE SO QUICKLY BECAUSE I'M OUT OF QUICKLY BECAUSE I'M OUT OF TIME. TIME. >> IS THERE ANY TIME AT THIS >> IS THERE ANY TIME AT THIS POINT TO AMEND THIS DEAL BEFORE POINT TO AMEND THIS DEAL BEFORE THIS DEADLINE? THIS DEADLINE? IF SOMEONE DOES HAVE A SMALL IF SOMEONE DOES HAVE A SMALL GRIEVANCE WITH IT? GRIEVANCE WITH IT? >> SHORT ANSWER IS NO. >> SHORT ANSWER IS NO. THEY ARE SIMPLY OUT OF TIME. THEY ARE SIMPLY OUT OF TIME. THEY REALLY NEEDED TO GET THIS THEY REALLY NEEDED TO GET THIS BILL PASSED LAST WEEK. BILL PASSED LAST WEEK. AND SO THIS IS WHAT IT IS . AND SO THIS IS WHAT IT IS . AT THIS POINT. AT THIS POINT. >> AND NEITHER SIDE IS GETTING >> AND NEITHER SIDE IS GETTING EVERYTHING THEY WANT. EVERYTHING THEY WANT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT RACHEL SCOTT CORRESPONDENT RACHEL SCOTT RACHEL , THANK YOU . RACHEL , THANK YOU . >> THANKS. >> THANKS. FLORIDA GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS FLORIDA GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS IS KICKING HIS CAMPAIGN TO HIGH IS KICKING HIS CAMPAIGN TO HIGH GEAR AFTER HIS FIRST CAMPAIGN GEAR AFTER HIS FIRST CAMPAIGN EVENT IN IOWA LAST NIGHT. EVENT IN IOWA LAST NIGHT. DESANTIS LAUNCHED HIS SHARPEST DESANTIS LAUNCHED HIS SHARPEST ATTACKS YET AGAINST FORMER ATTACKS YET AGAINST FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AS HE TRIES PRESIDENT TRUMP AS HE TRIES TO PAINT THE PRIMARIES AS A TO PAINT THE PRIMARIES AS A TWO MAN RACE. TWO MAN RACE. CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT JONATHAN KARL HAS THE LATEST. JONATHAN KARL HAS THE LATEST. >> COME OUT OF IOWA. >> COME OUT OF IOWA. FIRST RON DESANTIS, HIS FIRST RON DESANTIS, HIS CRITICISM OF TRUMP WAS SUBTLE, CRITICISM OF TRUMP WAS SUBTLE, SUGGESTING THE FORMER SUGGESTING THE FORMER PRESIDENT WAS MORE ABOUT PRESIDENT WAS MORE ABOUT BUILDING HIS BRAND THAN LEADING BUILDING HIS BRAND THAN LEADING . . AT THE END OF THE DAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, LEADERSHIP IS NOT ABOUT LEADERSHIP IS NOT ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT. ENTERTAINMENT. IT'S NOT ABOUT BUILDING IT'S NOT ABOUT BUILDING A BRAND. A BRAND. IT'S NOT ABOUT VIRTUE IT'S NOT ABOUT VIRTUE SIGNALING. SIGNALING. IT IS ABOUT RESULTS. IT IS ABOUT RESULTS. BUT WHEN ASKED WHETHER HE WAS BUT WHEN ASKED WHETHER HE WAS GOING TO START RESPONDING GOING TO START RESPONDING TO TRUMP'S CRITICISM OF SANTAS TO TRUMP'S CRITICISM OF SANTAS HIT BACK , HE USED TO SAY HIT BACK , HE USED TO SAY HOW GREAT FLORIDA WAS, HOW HIS HOW GREAT FLORIDA WAS, HOW HIS WHOLE FAMILY MOVED TO FLORIDA WHOLE FAMILY MOVED TO FLORIDA UNDER MY GOVERNORSHIP. UNDER MY GOVERNORSHIP. >> ARE YOU KIDDING ME? >> ARE YOU KIDDING ME? HE PORTRAYED TRUMP AS NOT BEING HE PORTRAYED TRUMP AS NOT BEING A TRUE CONSERVATIVE, SPENDING A TRUE CONSERVATIVE, SPENDING TOO MUCH AND FAILING TO CONTROL TOO MUCH AND FAILING TO CONTROL THE BORDER. THE BORDER. SOME OF THE CRITICISM WAS SOME OF THE CRITICISM WAS PERSONAL TO SANTA, SEEMED HURT PERSONAL TO SANTA, SEEMED HURT THAT TRUMP HAD NOT YET THAT TRUMP HAD NOT YET CONGRATULATED HIM FOR HIS BIG CONGRATULATED HIM FOR HIS BIG REELECTION VICTORY. REELECTION VICTORY. >> LAST YEAR, WE WON >> LAST YEAR, WE WON THE BIGGEST ELECTION LANDSLIDE THE BIGGEST ELECTION LANDSLIDE THAT FLORIDA REPUBLICANS HAVE THAT FLORIDA REPUBLICANS HAVE EVER WON. EVER WON. AND DID HE EVER SAY ANYTHING AND DID HE EVER SAY ANYTHING LIKE, ATTA BOY, GOOD JOB? LIKE, ATTA BOY, GOOD JOB? NO, HE ATTACKED ME. NO, HE ATTACKED ME. THREE DAYS BEFORE THE MIDTERM THREE DAYS BEFORE THE MIDTERM ELECTION, MOST OF THE IOWA ELECTION, MOST OF THE IOWA REPUBLIC WHO CAME TO SEE REPUBLIC WHO CAME TO SEE DESANTIS WERE STILL UNDECIDED DESANTIS WERE STILL UNDECIDED ABOUT WHO TO SUPPORT. ABOUT WHO TO SUPPORT. BUT ALMOST ALL OF THEM WE SPOKE BUT ALMOST ALL OF THEM WE SPOKE TO HERE SAID THEY WERE LOOKING TO HERE SAID THEY WERE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE OTHER THAN TRUMP . FOR SOMEONE OTHER THAN TRUMP . >> WHY ARE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR >> WHY ARE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE? AN ALTERNATIVE? TRUMP ? TRUMP ? I THINK DONALD TRUMP WAS I THINK DONALD TRUMP WAS GRATEFUL THAT WE NEEDED IN 2016 GRATEFUL THAT WE NEEDED IN 2016 ,BUT I THINK HE'S SO ,BUT I THINK HE'S SO POLARIZING. POLARIZING. I THINK WE NEED WE NEED I THINK WE NEED WE NEED A UNITER. A UNITER. HIS CHARACTER IS NOT GOOD. HIS CHARACTER IS NOT GOOD. AND NEEDS TO BE SOMEONE OTHER AND NEEDS TO BE SOMEONE OTHER THAN TRUMP . THAN TRUMP . TRUMP CAN BE BEATEN. TRUMP CAN BE BEATEN. I HOPE. I HOPE. >> WHY DO YOU WATCH >> WHY DO YOU WATCH CLARK BENTSON, ONE OF IOWA'S CLARK BENTSON, ONE OF IOWA'S MOST INFLUENTIAL EVANGELICAL MOST INFLUENTIAL EVANGELICAL LEADERS, TOLD ME THERE'S A LOT LEADERS, TOLD ME THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER FORMER OF OTHER FORMER TRUMP SUPPORTERS WHO ALSO WANT TRUMP SUPPORTERS WHO ALSO WANT SOMEONE OTHER THAN DONALD SOMEONE OTHER THAN DONALD TRUMP . TRUMP . >> I'M SEEING A GROWING >> I'M SEEING A GROWING ENTHUSIASM FOR AN ALTERNATIVE ENTHUSIASM FOR AN ALTERNATIVE TO TRUMP. TO TRUMP. WHILE MOST OF THE IOWA WHILE MOST OF THE IOWA REPUBLICANS I SPOKE TO SAID REPUBLICANS I SPOKE TO SAID THEY WERE LOOKING FOR AN THEY WERE LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE TO DONALD TRUMP , ALTERNATIVE TO DONALD TRUMP , THERE WAS NO REAL CONSENSUS THERE WAS NO REAL CONSENSUS ON WHO THAT ALTERNATIVE SHOULD ON WHO THAT ALTERNATIVE SHOULD BE . BE . >> DIANE . >> DIANE . CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT JONATHAN KARL, THANK YOU . JONATHAN KARL, THANK YOU . AND TENSIONS ARE GROWING AND TENSIONS ARE GROWING BETWEEN THE U.S. AND CHINA BETWEEN THE U.S. AND CHINA AFTER A CLOSE ENCOUNTER IN AFTER A CLOSE ENCOUNTER IN THE SKIES. THE SKIES. A CHINESE FIGHTER JET WAS A CHINESE FIGHTER JET WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA BUZZING PAST CAUGHT ON CAMERA BUZZING PAST AN AMERICAN PLANE COMING WITHIN AN AMERICAN PLANE COMING WITHIN FOUR HUNDRED FEET. FOUR HUNDRED FEET. NOW, THE U.S. IS CALLING IT NOW, THE U.S. IS CALLING IT UNNECESSARILY AGGRESSIVE UNNECESSARILY AGGRESSIVE MANEUVER. MANEUVER. CHIEF GLOBAL AFFAIRS CHIEF GLOBAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT MARTHA RADDATZ CORRESPONDENT MARTHA RADDATZ HAS MORE ON THAT. HAS MORE ON THAT. >> HI, MARTHA. >> HI, MARTHA. THE CHINESE ARE BLAMING THE CHINESE ARE BLAMING THE U.S. FOR THIS ENCOUNTER THE U.S. FOR THIS ENCOUNTER OVER THE SOUTH CHINA SEA. OVER THE SOUTH CHINA SEA. BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THE VIDEO. BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THE VIDEO. YOU SEE THE U.S. AIR FORCE YOU SEE THE U.S. AIR FORCE PILOTS IN THE COCKPIT OF PILOTS IN THE COCKPIT OF THE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE THE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE AS CHINESE FIGHTER JET AS CHINESE FIGHTER JET APPROACHES. APPROACHES. IT THEN ROARS PAST THE NOSE OF IT THEN ROARS PAST THE NOSE OF THE U.S. PLANE WITHIN THE U.S. PLANE WITHIN FOUR HUNDRED FEET, FORCING FOUR HUNDRED FEET, FORCING THE U.S. PILOTS TO BOUNCE THE U.S. PILOTS TO BOUNCE THROUGH THE TURBULENCE CAUSED THROUGH THE TURBULENCE CAUSED BY THE FIGHTER JETS. BY THE FIGHTER JETS. WAKE. WAKE. THE CHINESE SAY THE U.S. SHOULD THE CHINESE SAY THE U.S. SHOULD NOT BE SENDING RECONNAISSANCE NOT BE SENDING RECONNAISSANCE PLANES, BUT OF COURSE, THIS WAS PLANES, BUT OF COURSE, THIS WAS IN INTERNATIONAL AIRSPACE. IN INTERNATIONAL AIRSPACE. >> DIANE . >> DIANE . ALL RIGHT, MARTHA RADDATZ THANK ALL RIGHT, MARTHA RADDATZ THANK YOU . YOU . MEANWHILE, RUSSIA'S MEANWHILE, RUSSIA'S PRESIDENT PUTIN IS ACCUSING PRESIDENT PUTIN IS ACCUSING UKRAINE OF TERRORIST UKRAINE OF TERRORIST ACTIVITIES. ACTIVITIES. EIGHT DRONES EXPLODED IN EIGHT DRONES EXPLODED IN AND AROUND THE RUSSIAN AND AROUND THE RUSSIAN CAPITAL OF MOSCOW. CAPITAL OF MOSCOW. RUSSIA IS BLAMING UKRAINE RUSSIA IS BLAMING UKRAINE AND SAYING RUSSIA RESERVES AND SAYING RUSSIA RESERVES THE RIGHT TO RESPOND IN THE RIGHT TO RESPOND IN THE TOUGHEST POSSIBLE WAY. THE TOUGHEST POSSIBLE WAY. FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT TOM SOUFI BURRIDGE IS IN TOM SOUFI BURRIDGE IS IN KHARKIV, UKRAINE. KHARKIV, UKRAINE. WITH THE LATEST ON THAT TOM . WITH THE LATEST ON THAT TOM . >> WHITE HOUSE SPOKESMAN >> WHITE HOUSE SPOKESMAN JOHN KIRBY SAYS THE U.S. STILL JOHN KIRBY SAYS THE U.S. STILL ISN'T SURE IF UKRAINE WAS ISN'T SURE IF UKRAINE WAS ACTUALLY BEHIND THESE ATTACKS. ACTUALLY BEHIND THESE ATTACKS. SO WHAT'S THE LATEST ON JUST SO WHAT'S THE LATEST ON JUST THAT PART OF IT? THAT PART OF IT? DID UKRAINE DO THIS? DID UKRAINE DO THIS? >> YEAH, IT'S A PRETTY >> YEAH, IT'S A PRETTY INTERESTING CLAIM BY JOHN KIRBY INTERESTING CLAIM BY JOHN KIRBY . . I MEAN, LOOK, BASED I MEAN, LOOK, BASED ON CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD IN ON CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD IN PRIVATE HERE, I THINK THERE NOT PRIVATE HERE, I THINK THERE NOT A SHRED OF DOUBT THAT UKRAINE A SHRED OF DOUBT THAT UKRAINE WAS BEHIND THOSE ATTACKS. WAS BEHIND THOSE ATTACKS. NOW, THE UKRAINIAN OFFICIAL NOW, THE UKRAINIAN OFFICIAL POSITION IS WE'RE NOT POSITION IS WE'RE NOT COMMENTING. COMMENTING. WE DON'T OWN THOSE ATTACKS. WE DON'T OWN THOSE ATTACKS. BUT AN OFFICIAL VERY CLOSE BUT AN OFFICIAL VERY CLOSE TO PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY WITHIN TO PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY WITHIN THE LAST 24 SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE LAST 24 SAYING, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY NOW UKRAINE'S NOT ACTUALLY NOW UKRAINE'S NOT THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT COULD THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT COULD BE ATTACKED BY DRONES. BE ATTACKED BY DRONES. A STRONG HINT, AGAIN, THAT A STRONG HINT, AGAIN, THAT UKRAINE WAS RESPONSIBLE. UKRAINE WAS RESPONSIBLE. I THINK THE U.S. POSITION I THINK THE U.S. POSITION MORE BROADLY IS INTERESTING. MORE BROADLY IS INTERESTING. U.S. OFFICIALS CLEARLY BEING U.S. OFFICIALS CLEARLY BEING VERY, VERY CAREFUL WITH THEIR VERY, VERY CAREFUL WITH THEIR WORDS. WORDS. THEY'RE SAYING THEY DO NOT THEY'RE SAYING THEY DO NOT SUPPORT THEY DO NOT ENCOURAGE SUPPORT THEY DO NOT ENCOURAGE ATTACKS INSIDE RUSSIA. ATTACKS INSIDE RUSSIA. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE PUBLICLY CONDEMNING THEM THE PUBLICLY CONDEMNING THEM AND SORT OF TELLING AND SORT OF TELLING THE UKRAINIANS, AT LEAST THE UKRAINIANS, AT LEAST PUBLICLY NOT TELLING THEM TO TO PUBLICLY NOT TELLING THEM TO TO ACTUALLY STOP THESE ATTACKS. ACTUALLY STOP THESE ATTACKS. SO I THINK IT IS A FINELY SO I THINK IT IS A FINELY BALANCED POSITION. BALANCED POSITION. AND MORE BROADLY, THE UKRAINIAN AND MORE BROADLY, THE UKRAINIAN STRATEGY IS TO TRY AND TAKE STRATEGY IS TO TRY AND TAKE THE FIGHT, TAKE THE WAR INTO THE FIGHT, TAKE THE WAR INTO RUSSIA. RUSSIA. OF COURSE, UKRAINE IS PREPARING OF COURSE, UKRAINE IS PREPARING FOR THAT MAJOR COUNTER FOR THAT MAJOR COUNTER OFFENSIVE. OFFENSIVE. AND I THINK THIS IS A BROAD AND I THINK THIS IS A BROAD STRATEGY TO KIND OF STRATEGY TO KIND OF PSYCHOLOGICALLY DISSECT PSYCHOLOGICALLY DISSECT THE RUSSIANS, MAKE THEM THE RUSSIANS, MAKE THEM ON UNEASY AND TRY AND KEEP THEM ON UNEASY AND TRY AND KEEP THEM GUESSING IN THE RUN UP TO THAT GUESSING IN THE RUN UP TO THAT OFFENSIVE THAT HAD SOME HERE OFFENSIVE THAT HAD SOME HERE CLOSE TO THE RUSSIAN BORDER. CLOSE TO THE RUSSIAN BORDER. >> WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN >> WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THOSE AREAS IN THE PAST THOSE AREAS IN THE PAST TWENTY FOUR HOURS YET? TWENTY FOUR HOURS YET? AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT DRONE AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT DRONE ATTACK IN MOSCOW. ATTACK IN MOSCOW. WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING HEIGHTENED ACTIVITY REPORTS OF HEIGHTENED ACTIVITY REPORTS OF EXPLOSIONS INSIDE BORDER AREAS EXPLOSIONS INSIDE BORDER AREAS OF RUSSIA NOT FAR FROM HERE OF RUSSIA NOT FAR FROM HERE AND WITHIN THE LAST 24 HOURS OR AND WITHIN THE LAST 24 HOURS OR SO, THE GOVERNOR OF SO, THE GOVERNOR OF THE BELGOROD RUSSIAN REGION THE BELGOROD RUSSIAN REGION SAYING THAT ONE PERSON WAS SAYING THAT ONE PERSON WAS KILLED AND TWO PEOPLE SERIOUSLY KILLED AND TWO PEOPLE SERIOUSLY INJURED BY UKRAINIAN ARTILLERY INJURED BY UKRAINIAN ARTILLERY STRIKES. STRIKES. SO, AGAIN, THAT IS PART OF THIS SO, AGAIN, THAT IS PART OF THIS STRATEGY. STRATEGY. THE UKRAINIANS SEEM TO BE THE UKRAINIANS SEEM TO BE UPPING THEIR ACTIVITIES UP IN UPPING THEIR ACTIVITIES UP IN THAT NORTHERN REGION. THAT NORTHERN REGION. THEY ARE TRYING TO KIND OF MAKE THEY ARE TRYING TO KIND OF MAKE RUSSIA GUESS AND SORT OF PUT RUSSIA GUESS AND SORT OF PUT ASSETS POTENTIALLY IN CERTAIN ASSETS POTENTIALLY IN CERTAIN PLACES ALONG THE NORTHERN PLACES ALONG THE NORTHERN BORDER. BORDER. SO, AGAIN, KIND OF DISSECT THEM SO, AGAIN, KIND OF DISSECT THEM ,MAKE THEM UNEASY AS THE ,MAKE THEM UNEASY AS THE UKRAINIANS PREPARE FOR THIS UKRAINIANS PREPARE FOR THIS COUNTEROFFENSIVE. COUNTEROFFENSIVE. BUT TOM SOUFI BURRIDGE, STAY BUT TOM SOUFI BURRIDGE, STAY SAFE . SAFE . >> TOM , THANK YOU . >> TOM , THANK YOU . AND BACK HERE IN THE U.S., WE AND BACK HERE IN THE U.S., WE ARE LEARNING NEW DETAILS ABOUT ARE LEARNING NEW DETAILS ABOUT ROSALYNN CARTER'S HEALTH. ROSALYNN CARTER'S HEALTH. THE CARTER CENTER SAYS THE CARTER CENTER SAYS THE FORMER FIRST LADY CONTINUES THE FORMER FIRST LADY CONTINUES TO LIVE HAPPILY AT HOME AFTER TO LIVE HAPPILY AT HOME AFTER REVEALING SHE'S BEEN DIAGNOSED REVEALING SHE'S BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH DEMENTIA. WITH DEMENTIA. FORMER PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER'S FORMER PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER'S WIFE OF NEARLY WIFE OF NEARLY SEVENTY SEVEN YEARS HAS LONG SEVENTY SEVEN YEARS HAS LONG SPOKEN ABOUT ENDING ANY SHAME SPOKEN ABOUT ENDING ANY SHAME WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, INCLUDING WHILE HER ISSUES, INCLUDING WHILE HER HUSBAND WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. HUSBAND WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. NOW SHE'S CONTINUING THAT WORK NOW SHE'S CONTINUING THAT WORK WITH THIS ANNOUNCEMENT. WITH THIS ANNOUNCEMENT. SENIOR NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT SENIOR NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT STEVE OSUNSAMI HAS THE LATEST. STEVE OSUNSAMI HAS THE LATEST. >> IT'S A CONDITION THAT ABOUT >> IT'S A CONDITION THAT ABOUT ONE OUT OF EVERY 10 OF ONE OUT OF EVERY 10 OF THE NATION'S OLDEST THE NATION'S OLDEST AMERICANS PERSONALLY AND THIS AMERICANS PERSONALLY AND THIS FORMER FIRST LADY FROM GEORGIA FORMER FIRST LADY FROM GEORGIA IS SHARING THAT SHE HAS IS SHARING THAT SHE HAS DEMENTIA. DEMENTIA. IN A STATEMENT, THE CARTER IN A STATEMENT, THE CARTER CENTER SAYS THAT SHE CONTINUES CENTER SAYS THAT SHE CONTINUES TO LIVE HAPPILY AT HOME TO LIVE HAPPILY AT HOME WITH HER HUSBAND, ENJOYING WITH HER HUSBAND, ENJOYING SPRING AND VISITS WITH LOVED SPRING AND VISITS WITH LOVED ONES. ONES. >> THE COURTESY ARE LIVING >> THE COURTESY ARE LIVING THE LIFE THEY WANT TO LIVE THE LIFE THEY WANT TO LIVE WITH . WITH . THIS TIME. THIS TIME. AND IN THEIR 90S, AND IN THEIR 90S, THEY'RE TOGETHER THERE IN THEY'RE TOGETHER THERE IN PLAINS AND THEY ARE CONTINUING PLAINS AND THEY ARE CONTINUING TO TEACH US THESE LIFE LESSONS TO TEACH US THESE LIFE LESSONS ,HOW TO AGE GRACEFULLY. ,HOW TO AGE GRACEFULLY. >> EVEN BEFORE HER DAYS IN >> EVEN BEFORE HER DAYS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, WHEN SHE WAS THE WHITE HOUSE, WHEN SHE WAS AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION IN AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION IN GEORGIA, ROSALYNN CARTER HAS GEORGIA, ROSALYNN CARTER HAS WORKED TO DESTIGMATIZE MENTAL WORKED TO DESTIGMATIZE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. HEALTH ISSUES. >> THERE IS STILL TREMENDOUS >> THERE IS STILL TREMENDOUS WORK TO BE DONE. WORK TO BE DONE. BUT AT THE TIME MRS. CARTER BUT AT THE TIME MRS. CARTER STARTED AS AN ADVOCATE ON THIS STARTED AS AN ADVOCATE ON THIS SUBJECT WAS REALLY TABOO. SUBJECT WAS REALLY TABOO. PEOPLE WOULD NOT TALK ABOUT PEOPLE WOULD NOT TALK ABOUT MENTAL ILLNESSES. MENTAL ILLNESSES. >> THEY WERE AFRAID TO ADMIT >> THEY WERE AFRAID TO ADMIT THEY HAD A MENTAL ILLNESS. THEY HAD A MENTAL ILLNESS. HER 90TH BIRTHDAY IN AUGUST HER 90TH BIRTHDAY IN AUGUST AND HER HUSBAND, WHO IS STILL AND HER HUSBAND, WHO IS STILL UNDER HOSPICE CARE, HAS A 99 UNDER HOSPICE CARE, HAS A 99 BIRTHDAY IN OCTOBER THAT HIS BIRTHDAY IN OCTOBER THAT HIS FAMILY OPTIMISTICALLY SAYS HE FAMILY OPTIMISTICALLY SAYS HE WILL LIVE TO SEE. WILL LIVE TO SEE. >> THE FAMILY SAYS THE COUPLE >> THE FAMILY SAYS THE COUPLE IS TAKING VISITORS, SITTING IS TAKING VISITORS, SITTING OUTSIDE AND ENJOYING WHAT TIME OUTSIDE AND ENJOYING WHAT TIME THEY STILL HAVE TOGETHER THEY STILL HAVE TOGETHER DIANE . DIANE . >> ALL RIGHT, STEVE OSUNSAMI AT >> ALL RIGHT, STEVE OSUNSAMI AT THE CARTER CENTER. THE CARTER CENTER. STEVE , THANK YOU . STEVE , THANK YOU . COMING UP, WHY A CALIFORNIA COMING UP, WHY A CALIFORNIA APPEALS COURT IS UPHOLDING APPEALS COURT IS UPHOLDING THE PAROLE OF MANSON FAMILY THE PAROLE OF MANSON FAMILY MEMBER LESLIE VAN AND HOW SOON MEMBER LESLIE VAN AND HOW SOON SHE COULD BE FREED. SHE COULD BE FREED. >> ALSO AHEAD, >> ALSO AHEAD, THE INVESTIGATION INTO HOW THIS THE INVESTIGATION INTO HOW THIS CAR LAUNCHED OFF THE BACK OF CAR LAUNCHED OFF THE BACK OF A TOW TRUCK FLYING A TOW TRUCK FLYING ONE HUNDRED TWENTY FEET IN ONE HUNDRED TWENTY FEET IN THE AIR. THE AIR. THE DRIVER IS ACTUALLY ALIVE. THE DRIVER IS ACTUALLY ALIVE. WHAT LOCAL AUTHORITIES ARE NOW WHAT LOCAL AUTHORITIES ARE NOW SAYING ABOUT IT. SAYING ABOUT IT. WHEN WE COME BACK ,Y SATURDAY WHEN WE COME BACK ,Y SATURDAY ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". MY FAVORITE. MY FAVORITE. WELCOME BACK. WELCOME BACK. A CALIFORNIA APPEALS COURT SAYS A CALIFORNIA APPEALS COURT SAYS MANSON FAMILY MEMBER LESLIE MANSON FAMILY MEMBER LESLIE VAN HOUTEN SHOULD BE RELEASED VAN HOUTEN SHOULD BE RELEASED ON PAROLE THEN HAVING ON PAROLE THEN HAVING PARTICIPATED IN TWO KILLINGS PARTICIPATED IN TWO KILLINGS ALONGSIDE CULT LEADER ALONGSIDE CULT LEADER CHARLES MANSON IN CHARLES MANSON IN NINETEEN SIXTY NINE . NINETEEN SIXTY NINE . NOW, SHE COULD BE FREE IN JUST NOW, SHE COULD BE FREE IN JUST DAYS. DAYS. ABC'S CHIEF NATIONAL ABC'S CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT MATT GUTMAN HAS CORRESPONDENT MATT GUTMAN HAS THE DETAILS. THE DETAILS. >> THE CALIFORNIA APPEALS COURT >> THE CALIFORNIA APPEALS COURT UPHOLDING MANSON FAMILY MEMBER UPHOLDING MANSON FAMILY MEMBER LESLIE VAN HOUTEN PAROLE, WHICH LESLIE VAN HOUTEN PAROLE, WHICH COULD COME AS EARLY AS THIS COULD COME AS EARLY AS THIS WEEK BUT HASN'T HAD BEEN PART WEEK BUT HASN'T HAD BEEN PART OF A CRUET MURDER. OF A CRUET MURDER. LENO AND ROSEMARY BEANCA IN LENO AND ROSEMARY BEANCA IN THE SWELTERING SUMMER OF 69 FOR THE SWELTERING SUMMER OF 69 FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN NO REASON OTHER THAN CHARLES MANSON, ORDERED THEM CHARLES MANSON, ORDERED THEM TO THE LA BIANCA MURDER WAS TO THE LA BIANCA MURDER WAS GRISLY AND CAME JUST A DAY GRISLY AND CAME JUST A DAY AFTER THE MURDER OF PREGNANT AFTER THE MURDER OF PREGNANT ACTRESS SHARON AND FOUR OTHERS ACTRESS SHARON AND FOUR OTHERS IN HER HOLLYWOOD HILLS HOME. IN HER HOLLYWOOD HILLS HOME. MANSON DISTANCED HIMSELF FROM MANSON DISTANCED HIMSELF FROM THE MURDERS IN THIS MEMORABLE THE MURDERS IN THIS MEMORABLE 1994 INTERVIEW WITH DIANE 1994 INTERVIEW WITH DIANE SAWYER, I NEVER TOLD ANYBODY SAWYER, I NEVER TOLD ANYBODY TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AND IF THEY WANTED TO DO AND IF THEY WANTED TO DO MURDER, THAT THEY WANTED TO DO MURDER, THAT WAS MY BUSINESS. WAS MY BUSINESS. >> WOMAN. >> WOMAN. I'M A CONVICT. I'M A CONVICT. I'M AN OUTLAW. I'M AN OUTLAW. I'M A REBEL. I'M A REBEL. I'M NOT A SUNDAY SCHOOL I'M NOT A SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER. TEACHER. >> MANSON HAD CONVINCED HIS >> MANSON HAD CONVINCED HIS CULT, KNOWN AS THE MANSON CULT, KNOWN AS THE MANSON FAMILY, THAT RACE WAR WAS FAMILY, THAT RACE WAR WAS COMING. COMING. INSPIRED BY THE BEATLES SONG INSPIRED BY THE BEATLES SONG HELTER SKELTER, SINCE THEN, HELTER SKELTER, SINCE THEN, VAN HOUTEN HAD BEEN GRANTED VAN HOUTEN HAD BEEN GRANTED PAROLE FIVE TIMES, EACH PAROLE FIVE TIMES, EACH REJECTED BY CALIFORNIA REJECTED BY CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR . GOVERNOR . THE APPEALS COURT WRITING THE APPEALS COURT WRITING GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S LATEST GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S LATEST REFUSAL AMOUNTS TO UNSNAP REFUSAL AMOUNTS TO UNSNAP INTUITION THAT VAN HOUTEN MIGHT INTUITION THAT VAN HOUTEN MIGHT REOFFEND UNLESS DEEP INSIDE REOFFEND UNLESS DEEP INSIDE HERSELF SAW WHAT GOT HER THERE. HERSELF SAW WHAT GOT HER THERE. SHE LET A LOT OF SHE LET A LOT OF THE REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS, THE REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS, A LOT OF INMATES GOT RELEASED, A LOT OF INMATES GOT RELEASED, AND THAT'S ALWAYS THE FIRST AND THAT'S ALWAYS THE FIRST STEP IN TURNING THE CORNER, STEP IN TURNING THE CORNER, MOVING FORWARD. MOVING FORWARD. THANKS TO MATT GUTMAN, THANKS TO MATT GUTMAN, MANHATTAN'S LAWYER TELLS MANHATTAN'S LAWYER TELLS ABC NEWS HE EXPECTS ABC NEWS HE EXPECTS CALIFORNIA'S ATTORNEY GENERAL CALIFORNIA'S ATTORNEY GENERAL TO PETITION THE SUPREME COURT TO PETITION THE SUPREME COURT TO BLOCK HER PAROLE. TO BLOCK HER PAROLE. BUT HE SAYS HE'S CONFIDENT BUT HE SAYS HE'S CONFIDENT SHE'LL BE RELEASED AS EARLY SHE'LL BE RELEASED AS EARLY AS THIS WEEK, EVEN AS THE COURT AS THIS WEEK, EVEN AS THE COURT COMPLETES THAT REVIEW. COMPLETES THAT REVIEW. MEANWHILE, A FLORIDA WOMAN MEANWHILE, A FLORIDA WOMAN IS LUCKY TO BE ALIVE AFTER IS LUCKY TO BE ALIVE AFTER A CRASH THAT LOOKED LIKE A CRASH THAT LOOKED LIKE A SCENE FROM FAST AND FURIOUS. A SCENE FROM FAST AND FURIOUS. POLICE BODY CAM CAUGHT POLICE BODY CAM CAUGHT THE MOMENT HER CAR SPED UP THE MOMENT HER CAR SPED UP A TOW TRUCK RAMP FLYING THROUGH A TOW TRUCK RAMP FLYING THROUGH THE AIR BEFORE CRASHING TO THE THE AIR BEFORE CRASHING TO THE GROUND. GROUND. JANAI NORMAN HAS MORE ON HOW IT JANAI NORMAN HAS MORE ON HOW IT HAPPENED. HAPPENED. A POLICE BODY CAMERA CAPTURING A POLICE BODY CAMERA CAPTURING THE WILD MOMENT. THE WILD MOMENT. A CAR TRAVELING DOWN A HIGHWAY A CAR TRAVELING DOWN A HIGHWAY IN GEORGIA LAUNCHES OFF IN GEORGIA LAUNCHES OFF THE BACK OF A TOW TRUCK AT FULL THE BACK OF A TOW TRUCK AT FULL SPEED AT WATCH AGAIN AS THE SPEED AT WATCH AGAIN AS THE CAR TAKES OFF USING THE BACK OF CAR TAKES OFF USING THE BACK OF THE TOW TRUCK AS A DE FACTO THE TOW TRUCK AS A DE FACTO RUNWAY, THEN FLIES A HUNDRED RUNWAY, THEN FLIES A HUNDRED TWENTY FEET IN THE AIR BEFORE TWENTY FEET IN THE AIR BEFORE CRASHING TO THE GROUND, CRASHING TO THE GROUND, SMASHING INTO ANOTHER VEHICLE. SMASHING INTO ANOTHER VEHICLE. DEPUTIES AND LOUNDS COUNTY, DEPUTIES AND LOUNDS COUNTY, GEORGIA, WERE ALREADY GEORGIA, WERE ALREADY ON LOCATION RESPONDING ON LOCATION RESPONDING TO ANOTHER ARREST FOLLOWING TO ANOTHER ARREST FOLLOWING A TRAFFIC STOP ALONG HIGHWAY A TRAFFIC STOP ALONG HIGHWAY 34 . 34 . >> THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT >> THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING WE SEE EVERY DAY. SOMETHING WE SEE EVERY DAY. AS GEORGIA STATE TROOPERS. AS GEORGIA STATE TROOPERS. OFFICIALS CONFIRM A 21 YEAR OLD OFFICIALS CONFIRM A 21 YEAR OLD WOMAN FROM TALLAHASSEE WAS WOMAN FROM TALLAHASSEE WAS BEHIND THE WHEEL OF THE CAR. BEHIND THE WHEEL OF THE CAR. SHE SURVIVED WITH SERIOUS SHE SURVIVED WITH SERIOUS INJURIES AND IS STILL INJURIES AND IS STILL RECOVERING IN THE HOSPITAL IN RECOVERING IN THE HOSPITAL IN STABLE CONDITION. STABLE CONDITION. THE CRASH IS STILL UNDER THE CRASH IS STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION, BUT ALL WE'RE INVESTIGATION, BUT ALL WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT SHE FEELS WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT SHE FEELS AND THAT SHE GETS BETTER. AND THAT SHE GETS BETTER. >> A DEPUTY WAS HIT BY FLYING >> A DEPUTY WAS HIT BY FLYING DEBRIS AND SUFFERED MINOR DEBRIS AND SUFFERED MINOR INJURIES AND WAS RELEASED FROM INJURIES AND WAS RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL. THE HOSPITAL. THE SAME DAY. THE SAME DAY. OFFICIALS ARE REMINDING PEOPLE OFFICIALS ARE REMINDING PEOPLE TO REMAIN ATTENTIVE WHEN TO REMAIN ATTENTIVE WHEN TRAVELING AT HIGH SPEEDS. TRAVELING AT HIGH SPEEDS. >> MOVE OVER, SLOW DOWN, >> MOVE OVER, SLOW DOWN, BE CAREFUL. BE CAREFUL. TRY TO GET RID OF ALL TRY TO GET RID OF ALL THE DISTRACTIONS, ANYTHING THAT THE DISTRACTIONS, ANYTHING THAT MIGHT KEEP YOU FROM GETTING MIGHT KEEP YOU FROM GETTING HOME SAFELY, BECAUSE IN HOME SAFELY, BECAUSE IN THE END, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL THE END, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL AIMING FOR. AIMING FOR. >> FOR EVERYONE TO MAKE IT >> FOR EVERYONE TO MAKE IT TO THEIR THEIR DESTINATION TO THEIR THEIR DESTINATION SAFELY. SAFELY. >> SO THAT DRIVER AND THE >> SO THAT DRIVER AND THE DEPUTY ARE BOTH OKAY. DEPUTY ARE BOTH OKAY. BUT GEORGIA STATE POLICE SAYING BUT GEORGIA STATE POLICE SAYING THAT THIS IS WHY THE STATE, THAT THIS IS WHY THE STATE, LIKE MANY OTHERS, HAVE THOSE LIKE MANY OTHERS, HAVE THOSE MOVE OVER LAWS. MOVE OVER LAWS. >> WHEN YOU SEE A VEHICLE >> WHEN YOU SEE A VEHICLE STOPPED ON THE SIDE OF STOPPED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, ALL RIGHT, THE ROAD, ALL RIGHT, JANAI NORMAN, GOOD ADVICE. JANAI NORMAN, GOOD ADVICE. >> THANK YOU . >> THANK YOU . COMING WHAT TO WATCH FOR AT COMING WHAT TO WATCH FOR AT THE ATM, HOW THIEVES COULD THE ATM, HOW THIEVES COULD BE FOLLOWING YOU AND HOW TO BE FOLLOWING YOU AND HOW TO STAY SAFE . STAY SAFE . ALSO AHEAD, HOW TO KNOW IF ALSO AHEAD, HOW TO KNOW IF ONLINE THERAPY IS RIGHT FOR ONLINE THERAPY IS RIGHT FOR YOU . YOU . OUR MICHAEL STRAHAN HAS MORE ON OUR MICHAEL STRAHAN HAS MORE ON THE QUESTIONS TO YOU'RE STREAMIN OUR MICHAEL STRAHAN HAS MORE ON THE QUESTIONS TO YOU'RE STREAMIG THE QUESTIONS TO YOU'RE STREAMIG "ABC NEWS LIVE". >> WELCOME BACK. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL TALKING TO A HOW WOULD YOU FEEL TALKING TO A THERAPIST THROUGH A SCREEN? THERAPIST THROUGH A SCREEN? IT'S A GROWING TREND SINCE IT'S A GROWING TREND SINCE THE PANDEMIC WITH THE KAISER THE PANDEMIC WITH THE KAISER FAMILY FOUNDATION SAYING NEARLY FAMILY FOUNDATION SAYING NEARLY 40% OF TRADITIONAL THERAPY 40% OF TRADITIONAL THERAPY VISITS WERE DONE VIRTUALLY IN VISITS WERE DONE VIRTUALLY IN 2020 ONE . 2020 ONE . BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW IF ONLINE BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW IF ONLINE THERAPY IS RIGHT FOR YOU ? THERAPY IS RIGHT FOR YOU ? MICHAEL O'BRIEN HAS MORE ON MICHAEL O'BRIEN HAS MORE ON THIS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS THIS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH. MONTH. >> YEAH, I MEAN, IT ALL COMES >> YEAH, I MEAN, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO PARENTS, AND I'M DOWN TO PARENTS, AND I'M EXCITED TO DIG INTO THAT. EXCITED TO DIG INTO THAT. BUT ACKNOWLEDGING THIS IS JUST BUT ACKNOWLEDGING THIS IS JUST THE FIRST THERAPY. THE FIRST THERAPY. >> IT'S OFTEN BEEN DEPICTED >> IT'S OFTEN BEEN DEPICTED ON SCREEN AS AN IN PERSON ON SCREEN AS AN IN PERSON ON THE COUCH, DEEP DOVE INTO ON THE COUCH, DEEP DOVE INTO ONE PSYCHE. ONE PSYCHE. BUT NOW ONLINE TELEHEALTH BUT NOW ONLINE TELEHEALTH COMPANIES AND APPS ARE OFFERING COMPANIES AND APPS ARE OFFERING ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH CARE. ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH CARE. >> YOU CAN GET AT HOME. >> YOU CAN GET AT HOME. I SWITCHED FROM THERAPY I SWITCHED FROM THERAPY AND PERSON TO ONLINE WAS AND PERSON TO ONLINE WAS EXTREMELY COMFORTABLE. EXTREMELY COMFORTABLE. I COULD BE IN MY PLACE, IN I COULD BE IN MY PLACE, IN MY ROOM AND IT WAS GREAT. MY ROOM AND IT WAS GREAT. MISSOURI MOM OF FOUR , MISSOURI MOM OF FOUR , RACHEL GARLINGHOUSE ISN'T RACHEL GARLINGHOUSE ISN'T ALONE. ALONE. NEARLY 40% OF MENTAL HEALTH NEARLY 40% OF MENTAL HEALTH VISITS WITH TRADITIONAL VISITS WITH TRADITIONAL THERAPISTS WERE DONE VIRTUALLY THERAPISTS WERE DONE VIRTUALLY IN 2021. IN 2021. THE USE OF ONLINE THERAPY THE USE OF ONLINE THERAPY COMPANY, THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPANY, THE MENTAL HEALTH APPS, ALSO SPIKED DURING APPS, ALSO SPIKED DURING THE PANDEMIC. THE PANDEMIC. AND FOR THOSE WHO GO ONLINE, AND FOR THOSE WHO GO ONLINE, THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL BENEFITS. BENEFITS. >> I DIDN'T HAVE TO DRIVE >> I DIDN'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO AND FROM THERAPY. TO AND FROM THERAPY. AND IN THE LAST REASON WAS AND IN THE LAST REASON WAS THE CANCELATION POLICY. THE CANCELATION POLICY. >> IF YOU CANCEL THERAPY, IT'S >> IF YOU CANCEL THERAPY, IT'S ABOUT 200 DOLLARS AN HOUR. ABOUT 200 DOLLARS AN HOUR. I DIDN'T HAVE TO CANCEL BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE TO CANCEL BECAUSE I WAS ONLINE SO I COULD I WAS ONLINE SO I COULD BE ALMOST ANYWHERE AND DO BE ALMOST ANYWHERE AND DO MY THERAPY SESSION. MY THERAPY SESSION. >> BUT FOR MARYLAND RESIDENT >> BUT FOR MARYLAND RESIDENT REGINA STIFFLER, ONLINE THERAPY REGINA STIFFLER, ONLINE THERAPY THROUGH A TELEHEALTH COMPANY THROUGH A TELEHEALTH COMPANY DIDN'T PROVIDE THE SAME QUALITY DIDN'T PROVIDE THE SAME QUALITY OF CARE THAT REGULAR THERAPY OF CARE THAT REGULAR THERAPY DID. DID. >> MY THERAPIST DISAPPEARED. >> MY THERAPIST DISAPPEARED. I TRIED TO RECONNECT I TRIED TO RECONNECT WITH ANOTHER ONE AND WITH ANOTHER ONE AND THEY DIDN'T RESPOND VERY OFTEN. THEY DIDN'T RESPOND VERY OFTEN. I'M NOT PAYING FOR SOMETHING I'M NOT PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT GETTING THAT I'M NOT GETTING THE SERVICE. THE SERVICE. >> SO HOW CAN YOU DECIDE IF >> SO HOW CAN YOU DECIDE IF ONLINE THERAPY APPS ARE RIGHT ONLINE THERAPY APPS ARE RIGHT FOR YOU ? FOR YOU ? >> FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS. >> FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS. >> YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING >> YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. FOR. IS THERE A SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT IS THERE A SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR HELP WITH ? YOU'RE LOOKING FOR HELP WITH ? IS IT SOMETHING TIME LIMITED? IS IT SOMETHING TIME LIMITED? SOMETHING HAPPENED AT WORK OR SOMETHING HAPPENED AT WORK OR WITH A FAMILY MEMBER? WITH A FAMILY MEMBER? HAVE YOU BEEN IN THERAPY HAVE YOU BEEN IN THERAPY BEFORE? BEFORE? THAT'S REALLY THE FIRST THAT'S REALLY THE FIRST IMPORTANT THING. IMPORTANT THING. >> NEXT NOTE THAT NOT ALL >> NEXT NOTE THAT NOT ALL SERVICES ARE CREATED EQUALLY. SERVICES ARE CREATED EQUALLY. >> SOME PLATFORMS DON'T HAVE >> SOME PLATFORMS DON'T HAVE A PERSON AT THE OTHER END AT A PERSON AT THE OTHER END AT ALL. ALL. THEY TAKE INFORMATION, EITHER THEY TAKE INFORMATION, EITHER YOU TYPE IN OR SPEAKING YOU TYPE IN OR SPEAKING AND CONNECT YOU TO RESOURCES. AND CONNECT YOU TO RESOURCES. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW BOTH SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW BOTH THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE AND WHO THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE AND WHO THAT LIVE PERSON ON THE OTHER THAT LIVE PERSON ON THE OTHER END IS GOING TO BE. END IS GOING TO BE. >> AND FINALLY, ONE SIZE DOES >> AND FINALLY, ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL. NOT FIT ALL. WHETHER IT BE ONLINE OR IN WHETHER IT BE ONLINE OR IN PERSON IS THAT THERE'S NO PERSON IS THAT THERE'S NO ONE SIZE FITS. ONE SIZE FITS. AND SO DOING WORK TO PREPARE, AND SO DOING WORK TO PREPARE, KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND SEEK INFORMATION AHEAD OF AND SEEK INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME IS GOING TO BE THE BEST TIME IS GOING TO BE THE BEST BET IN FINDING GOOD TREATMENT. BET IN FINDING GOOD TREATMENT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OUR THANKS TO MICHAEL STRAHAN. OUR THANKS TO MICHAEL STRAHAN. COMING UP, THE DIRE WARNING COMING UP, THE DIRE WARNING ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE BY TOP EXPERTS ARE SAYING IT BY TOP EXPERTS ARE SAYING IT POSES A RISK OF EXTINCTION. POSES A RISK OF EXTINCTION. ALSO AHEAD, THE NEW TRAVEL ALSO AHEAD, THE NEW TRAVEL TREND KNOWN SKIP LAGGING. TREND KNOWN SKIP LAGGING. EARLY MORNINGS EARLY MORNINGS ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". WELCOME BACK TO ABC NEWS. WELCOME BACK TO ABC NEWS. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US. YOU'RE LOOKING AT NEW YORK CITY YOU'RE LOOKING AT NEW YORK CITY ON THIS WEDNESDAY. ON THIS WEDNESDAY. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF NEWS AND WE HAVE A LOT OF NEWS TO GET TO . TO GET TO . HERE'S A RUNDOWN RIGHT NOW. HERE'S A RUNDOWN RIGHT NOW. EMERGENCY WORKERS ARE RACING EMERGENCY WORKERS ARE RACING TO FIND TWO PEOPLE BELIEVED TO FIND TWO PEOPLE BELIEVED TO BE INSIDE A PARTIALLY TO BE INSIDE A PARTIALLY COLLAPSED APARTMENT BUILDING IN COLLAPSED APARTMENT BUILDING IN DAVENPORT, IOWA. DAVENPORT, IOWA. OFFICIALS INITIALLY SAID THERE OFFICIALS INITIALLY SAID THERE WAS NO CREDIBLE INFORMATION WAS NO CREDIBLE INFORMATION THAT ANYONE WAS MISSING. THAT ANYONE WAS MISSING. AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH PLANS TO DEMOLISH THE REST WITH PLANS TO DEMOLISH THE REST OF THE BUILDING. OF THE BUILDING. BUT THEN ANOTHER WOMAN WAS BUT THEN ANOTHER WOMAN WAS RESCUED FROM THE FOURTH FLOOR RESCUED FROM THE FOURTH FLOOR MORE THAN TWENTY FOUR HOURS MORE THAN TWENTY FOUR HOURS AFTER THE COLLAPSE. AFTER THE COLLAPSE. NOW, OFFICIALS SAY NOW, OFFICIALS SAY THEY'RE WORKING TO DETERMINE THEY'RE WORKING TO DETERMINE HOW TO CONDUCT ANOTHER SEARCH HOW TO CONDUCT ANOTHER SEARCH AS THE REST OF THE BUILDING AS THE REST OF THE BUILDING COULD COLLAPSE. COULD COLLAPSE. ANY TIME. ANY TIME. OFFICIALS SAY A MISSING OFFICIALS SAY A MISSING TENNESSEE MOTHER HAS BEEN FOUND TENNESSEE MOTHER HAS BEEN FOUND SAFE IN NEW MEXICO. SAFE IN NEW MEXICO. NIKKI ALCARAZ AND HER BOYFRIEND NIKKI ALCARAZ AND HER BOYFRIEND ,TYLER STRATTON, VANISHED ON A ,TYLER STRATTON, VANISHED ON A CROSS-COUNTRY ROAD TRIP CROSS-COUNTRY ROAD TRIP TO CALIFORNIA. TO CALIFORNIA. THEY HADN'T BEEN SEEN SINCE AN THEY HADN'T BEEN SEEN SINCE AN APPARENT DOMESTIC DISPUTE APPARENT DOMESTIC DISPUTE ON MAY 4TH. ON MAY 4TH. POLICE SAY THEY WERE ABLE POLICE SAY THEY WERE ABLE TO TRACK DOWN THE PAIR AFTER TO TRACK DOWN THE PAIR AFTER THEY WERE SPOTTED AT A WAL-MART THEY WERE SPOTTED AT A WAL-MART . . HER BOYFRIEND HAS BEEN ARRESTED HER BOYFRIEND HAS BEEN ARRESTED ON AN UNRELATED CHARGE. ON AN UNRELATED CHARGE. A CREW OF ASTRONAUTS IS BACK A CREW OF ASTRONAUTS IS BACK ON EARTH AFTER SPLASHING DOWN ON EARTH AFTER SPLASHING DOWN OFF THE COAST OF PANAMA CITY. OFF THE COAST OF PANAMA CITY. IT MARKS THE END OF A 10 DAY IT MARKS THE END OF A 10 DAY PRIVATE MISSION LED BY PRIVATE MISSION LED BY THE COMMERCIAL COMPANY AXIOM THE COMMERCIAL COMPANY AXIOM SPACE . SPACE . THE CREW OF THREE PAYING THE CREW OF THREE PAYING CUSTOMERS, LED BY RETIRED NASA CUSTOMERS, LED BY RETIRED NASA ASTRONAUT PEGGY WHITSON, SPENT ASTRONAUT PEGGY WHITSON, SPENT MOST OF THE TIME DEEP IN MOST OF THE TIME DEEP IN RESEARCH AT THE INTERNATIONAL RESEARCH AT THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION, WHICH NOW HOLDS SPACE STATION, WHICH NOW HOLDS THE U.S. RECORD FOR MOST DAYS THE U.S. RECORD FOR MOST DAYS SPENT IN SPACE . SPENT IN SPACE . AND SHE SAYS SHE IS READY TO GO AND SHE SAYS SHE IS READY TO GO BACK UP AGAIN. BACK UP AGAIN. AND ELIZABETH HOLMES IS NOW AND ELIZABETH HOLMES IS NOW ONE OF ROUGHLY 600 INMATES AT ONE OF ROUGHLY 600 INMATES AT A MAXIMUM SECURITY FEDERAL A MAXIMUM SECURITY FEDERAL PRISON IN TEXAS. PRISON IN TEXAS. DISGRACED THERANOS FOUNDER DISGRACED THERANOS FOUNDER STARTED HER 11 YEAR PRISON STARTED HER 11 YEAR PRISON SENTENCE YESTERDAY AFTER BEING SENTENCE YESTERDAY AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF DEFRAUDING CONVICTED OF DEFRAUDING INVESTORS OUT OF MILLIONS. INVESTORS OUT OF MILLIONS. EVA PILGRIM HAS MORE ON WHAT EVA PILGRIM HAS MORE ON WHAT HER LIFE WILL BE LIKE BEHIND HER LIFE WILL BE LIKE BEHIND BARS. BARS. ELIZABETH HOLMES, THE DISGRACED ELIZABETH HOLMES, THE DISGRACED THERANOS FOUNDER, WAKING UP THERANOS FOUNDER, WAKING UP BEHIND BARS NOW SERVING AN BEHIND BARS NOW SERVING AN 11 YEAR SENTENCE. 11 YEAR SENTENCE. THIS ALL WOMEN MINIMUM SECURITY THIS ALL WOMEN MINIMUM SECURITY PRISON IN BRYANT, TEXAS, HOLMES PRISON IN BRYANT, TEXAS, HOLMES HOMES SINCE SMILING AS SHE MADE HOMES SINCE SMILING AS SHE MADE HER WAY. HER WAY. YET THE MOTHER OF TWO DROPPED YET THE MOTHER OF TWO DROPPED OFF A FEDERAL PRISON CAMP OFF A FEDERAL PRISON CAMP BY HER PARENTS AND PARTNER, BY HER PARENTS AND PARTNER, BILLY EVANS. BILLY EVANS. ACCORDING TO THE INMATE ACCORDING TO THE INMATE ADMISSION AND ORIENTATION ADMISSION AND ORIENTATION HANDBOOK, SHE WILL SWAP HER HANDBOOK, SHE WILL SWAP HER SIGNATURE BLACK TURTLENECKS FOR SIGNATURE BLACK TURTLENECKS FOR A KHAKI UNIFORM AND FACE A 6:00 A KHAKI UNIFORM AND FACE A 6:00 A.M. WAKE UP CALL. A.M. WAKE UP CALL. A FORMER INMATE TELLING A FORMER INMATE TELLING ABC NEWS HER BED WILL BE LIKE ABC NEWS HER BED WILL BE LIKE A KINDERGARTEN MAT THAT FEELS A KINDERGARTEN MAT THAT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE LAYING DIRECTLY LIKE YOU'RE LAYING DIRECTLY ON STEEL. ON STEEL. >> THERE'S NOT A BEACH. >> THERE'S NOT A BEACH. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT. IT'S DEFINITELY PRISON. IT'S DEFINITELY PRISON. IT'S VERY WHITE, STERILE, IT'S VERY WHITE, STERILE, ENVIRONMENT. ENVIRONMENT. AND IT IS A STRICT THERE'S AND IT IS A STRICT THERE'S A SCHEDULE AND , YOU KNOW, A SCHEDULE AND , YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO ADHERE TO IT. YOU HAVE TO ADHERE TO IT. >> HOMES WILL BE EXPECTED >> HOMES WILL BE EXPECTED TO HAVE A JOB WORKING IN TO HAVE A JOB WORKING IN THE KITCHEN FOR AT LEAST THE KITCHEN FOR AT LEAST 90 DAYS, LIKELY MAKING A RATE 90 DAYS, LIKELY MAKING A RATE OF 12 CENTS AN HOUR. OF 12 CENTS AN HOUR. A HARSH NEW REALITY FOR A HARSH NEW REALITY FOR THE WOMAN ONCE KNOWN AS THE THE WOMAN ONCE KNOWN AS THE YOUNGEST SELF-MADE FEMALE YOUNGEST SELF-MADE FEMALE BILLIONAIRE. BILLIONAIRE. >> WE'VE MADE IT POSSIBLE >> WE'VE MADE IT POSSIBLE TO RUN COMPREHENSIVE LABORATORY TO RUN COMPREHENSIVE LABORATORY TESTS FROM TINY SAMPLE OR A FEW TESTS FROM TINY SAMPLE OR A FEW DROPS OF BLOOD . DROPS OF BLOOD . >> THEIR FORMER CEO CLAIMED HER >> THEIR FORMER CEO CLAIMED HER THERANOS TECHNOLOGY COULD RUN THERANOS TECHNOLOGY COULD RUN HUNDREDS OF HEALTH TESTS HUNDREDS OF HEALTH TESTS WITH JUST A FEW DROPS OF WITH JUST A FEW DROPS OF BLOOD , WHICH WASN'T TRUE. BLOOD , WHICH WASN'T TRUE. SHE WAS NAMED TIME'S 100 MOST SHE WAS NAMED TIME'S 100 MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN 2015. INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN 2015. FOR HER WORK. FOR HER WORK. BUT AT TRIAL, PROSECUTORS BUT AT TRIAL, PROSECUTORS PROVED SHE DEFRAUDED INVESTORS. PROVED SHE DEFRAUDED INVESTORS. >> DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL >> DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? DO? DO? >> HOLMES WAS CONVICTED ON >> HOLMES WAS CONVICTED ON FOUR COUNTS OF WIRE FRAUD FOUR COUNTS OF WIRE FRAUD AND CONSPIRACY IN JANUARY . AND CONSPIRACY IN JANUARY . 2020 TWO . 2020 TWO . HER FALL FROM GRACE WIDELY HER FALL FROM GRACE WIDELY PUBLICIZED AND DRAMATIZED. PUBLICIZED AND DRAMATIZED. >> THIS MACHINE IS GOING >> THIS MACHINE IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD. TO CHANGE THE WORLD. >> HER NEW REALITY, A FAR CRY >> HER NEW REALITY, A FAR CRY FROM THIS GLOSSY FROM THIS GLOSSY "NEW YORK TIMES" PROFILE "NEW YORK TIMES" PROFILE WITH HER KIDS. WITH HER KIDS. >> SHE'S GOING TO BE SEPARATED >> SHE'S GOING TO BE SEPARATED FROM HER FAMILY, HER CHILDREN, FROM HER FAMILY, HER CHILDREN, HER FRIENDS. HER FRIENDS. FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND THAT MAY BE THE HIGHEST AND THAT MAY BE THE HIGHEST PRICE A PERSON COULD PAY. PRICE A PERSON COULD PAY. >> JON MEYERSOHN IS A PRISON >> JON MEYERSOHN IS A PRISON CONSULTANT WHO HAS HELPED HIGH CONSULTANT WHO HAS HELPED HIGH PROFILE CLIENTS GET READY FOR PROFILE CLIENTS GET READY FOR A LIFE BEHIND BARS. A LIFE BEHIND BARS. SHE SAYS THE TRANSITION SHE SAYS THE TRANSITION WILL NOT BE EASY. WILL NOT BE EASY. >> IT'S CHALLENGING WHEN >> IT'S CHALLENGING WHEN YOU WALK TO PRISON AS A PUBLIC YOU WALK TO PRISON AS A PUBLIC PERSON, THERE ARE GOING TO BE PERSON, THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME WOMEN THAT REALLY WANT SOME WOMEN THAT REALLY WANT TO GET TO KNOW ELIZABETH , TO GET TO KNOW ELIZABETH , MAYBE EVEN WILL TRY TO TAKE MAYBE EVEN WILL TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HER PRIVILEGE FOR ADVANTAGE OF HER PRIVILEGE FOR ELIZABETH HOLMES TO HAVE ELIZABETH HOLMES TO HAVE A SMOOTH TRANSITION INTO A SMOOTH TRANSITION INTO PRISON. PRISON. I ALWAYS SUGGEST TO WALK INTO I ALWAYS SUGGEST TO WALK INTO PRISON WITH A LOT OF HUMILITY. PRISON WITH A LOT OF HUMILITY. >> HOMES CAN EVENTUALLY TRAIN >> HOMES CAN EVENTUALLY TRAIN FOR A DIFFERENT JOB BEHIND FOR A DIFFERENT JOB BEHIND BARS. BARS. A PRISON FACTORY JOB MAKING A PRISON FACTORY JOB MAKING THINGS LIKE FOOD SERVICE THINGS LIKE FOOD SERVICE EQUIPMENT, TOWELS AND BROOMS, EQUIPMENT, TOWELS AND BROOMS, BUT SHE'LL FIRST NEED TO SHADOW BUT SHE'LL FIRST NEED TO SHADOW A MORE SEASONED INMATE AND PASS A MORE SEASONED INMATE AND PASS EFFICIENCY IN THE WORKPLACE EFFICIENCY IN THE WORKPLACE AND SAFETY TRAINING COURSES. AND SAFETY TRAINING COURSES. DIANE AND EVA PILGRIM, THANK DIANE AND EVA PILGRIM, THANK YOU AND "ABC NEWS LIVE" YOU AND "ABC NEWS LIVE" CONTRIBUTOR, MANAGER AT CONTRIBUTOR, MANAGER AT THE MANAGING PARTNER, I SHOULD THE MANAGING PARTNER, I SHOULD SAY, AT THE COCHRAN FIRM SAY, AT THE COCHRAN FIRM CHANNEL. CHANNEL. LLOYD JOINS ME NOW FOR MORE ON LLOYD JOINS ME NOW FOR MORE ON ELIZABETH . ELIZABETH . TRIED TO DELAY HER TRIED TO DELAY HER INCARCERATION AS SHE AWAITS INCARCERATION AS SHE AWAITS A RULING ON APPEAL. A RULING ON APPEAL. BUT NOW THAT SHE'S IN PRISON, BUT NOW THAT SHE'S IN PRISON, DOES SHE HAVE ANY LEGAL OPTIONS DOES SHE HAVE ANY LEGAL OPTIONS TO GET? TO GET? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> ABSOLUTELY. SHE STILL HAS AN APPEAL GOING SHE STILL HAS AN APPEAL GOING BECAUSE SHE ACTUALLY HAD BECAUSE SHE ACTUALLY HAD TWO APPEALS. TWO APPEALS. ONE WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE ONE WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE COULD STAY OUT OF PRISON UNTIL COULD STAY OUT OF PRISON UNTIL HER ACTUAL APPEAL, LOOKING FOR HER ACTUAL APPEAL, LOOKING FOR A NEW SENTENCE, A NEW PRISON, A NEW SENTENCE, A NEW PRISON, A NEW TRIAL WOULD HAPPEN. A NEW TRIAL WOULD HAPPEN. SO THAT APPEAL IS STILL GOING, SO THAT APPEAL IS STILL GOING, BUT SHE HAS TO BE IN PRISON BUT SHE HAS TO BE IN PRISON UNTIL THAT APPEAL IS HEARD UNTIL THAT APPEAL IS HEARD BY THE HIGHER COURT. BY THE HIGHER COURT. >> NOW, WHAT ABOUT FUTURE >> NOW, WHAT ABOUT FUTURE APPEAL? APPEAL? SHE'S A MOTHER OF TWO YOUNG SHE'S A MOTHER OF TWO YOUNG CHILDREN. CHILDREN. COULD THAT HAVE AN IMPACT AT COULD THAT HAVE AN IMPACT AT ALL? ALL? THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE AN THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE COURT SYSTEM IMPACT ON THE COURT SYSTEM AND HER APPEAL, BECAUSE LET'S AND HER APPEAL, BECAUSE LET'S REMEMBER, HER APPEAL IS BASED REMEMBER, HER APPEAL IS BASED STRICTLY ON THE RECORD OF STRICTLY ON THE RECORD OF A TRIAL COURT. A TRIAL COURT. THEY'RE SAYING THAT THERE ARE THEY'RE SAYING THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN ERRORS THAT THERE CERTAIN ERRORS THAT THERE SHOULD BE A NEW TRIAL. SHOULD BE A NEW TRIAL. AND SO THAT APPEAL WILL HAVE NO AND SO THAT APPEAL WILL HAVE NO EFFECT ON WHO SHE IS . EFFECT ON WHO SHE IS . INDIVIDUAL AS A PERSON, MORE SO INDIVIDUAL AS A PERSON, MORE SO . . WHERE WAS PROCEDURE FOLLOWED? WHERE WAS PROCEDURE FOLLOWED? DID THE COURT USE PROPER DID THE COURT USE PROPER DISCRETION? DISCRETION? THIS IS ENTIRELY A PROCEDURAL THIS IS ENTIRELY A PROCEDURAL QUESTION ONTO WHETHER OR NOT QUESTION ONTO WHETHER OR NOT SHE DESERVES A NEW TRIAL. SHE DESERVES A NEW TRIAL. >> NOW, HOW MUCH OF THIS >> NOW, HOW MUCH OF THIS 11 YEAR SENTENCE IS SHE 11 YEAR SENTENCE IS SHE ACTUALLY EXPECTED TO SERVE? ACTUALLY EXPECTED TO SERVE? >> SO IN THE FEDERAL PRISON >> SO IN THE FEDERAL PRISON SYSTEM, 85% SO WE'RE TALKING SYSTEM, 85% SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST OVER NINE YEARS, ABOUT JUST OVER NINE YEARS, WHICH IS A LONG TIME. WHICH IS A LONG TIME. WHEN YOU HAVE YOUNG KIDS, WHAT WHEN YOU HAVE YOUNG KIDS, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HER FAMILY? DO YOU THINK ABOUT HER FAMILY? WHAT DOES VISITATION LOOK LIKE WHAT DOES VISITATION LOOK LIKE FOR AN INMATE IN A MAXIMUM FOR AN INMATE IN A MAXIMUM SECURITY PRISON? SECURITY PRISON? >> SO SHE WILL BE ALLOWED >> SO SHE WILL BE ALLOWED VISITS WITH HER CHILDREN, BUT VISITS WITH HER CHILDREN, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING LIKE WHAT WE KNOW ANYTHING LIKE WHAT WE KNOW IS VISITING WITH OUR CHILDREN, IS VISITING WITH OUR CHILDREN, HANGING OUT A LOT OF AFFECTION, HANGING OUT A LOT OF AFFECTION, A LOT OF HUGS AND BEING CLOSE A LOT OF HUGS AND BEING CLOSE A LOT. A LOT. THAT IS GOING TO BE SEVERELY THAT IS GOING TO BE SEVERELY LIMITED BECAUSE SHE LIMITED BECAUSE SHE IS CURRENTLY AN INMATE. IS CURRENTLY AN INMATE. >> SHE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THEM >> SHE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THEM AND VISIT WITH THEM. AND VISIT WITH THEM. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY BUT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY RESTRICTED. RESTRICTED. EARLIER THIS MONTH, EARLIER THIS MONTH, ELIZABETH AND HER FORMER ELIZABETH AND HER FORMER PARTNER, PRESIDENT OF THERANOS, PARTNER, PRESIDENT OF THERANOS, FROM SUNNYVALE, JUANI, WERE FROM SUNNYVALE, JUANI, WERE ORDERED TO PAY FOUR HUNDRED ORDERED TO PAY FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN FIFTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN RESTITUTION. RESTITUTION. >> SO WHAT'S THE LATEST ON THAT >> SO WHAT'S THE LATEST ON THAT FRONT? FRONT? SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO ALL OF THEIR ASSETS, ANY INTO ALL OF THEIR ASSETS, ANY BACKGROUND, ANY OTHER DOLLARS BACKGROUND, ANY OTHER DOLLARS THAT THEY CAN GO AFTER TO HAVE THAT THEY CAN GO AFTER TO HAVE TO PAY THIS RESTITUTION BECAUSE TO PAY THIS RESTITUTION BECAUSE IT IS REQUIRED. IT IS REQUIRED. SO SHE IS GOING TO HAVE TO TURN SO SHE IS GOING TO HAVE TO TURN OVER ANY MONEY THAT SHE HAS OVER ANY MONEY THAT SHE HAS SAVED OR MAINTAIN SINCE SHE WAS SAVED OR MAINTAIN SINCE SHE WAS RUNNING THERANOS. RUNNING THERANOS. SO THAT MONEY IS GOING TO NOW SO THAT MONEY IS GOING TO NOW BE USED TO TURN OVER TO VICTIMS BE USED TO TURN OVER TO VICTIMS THAT SUFFERED AT THE HANDS THAT SUFFERED AT THE HANDS AND LOST MONEY DUE TO HER AND LOST MONEY DUE TO HER DEFRAUDING THEM. DEFRAUDING THEM. >> ALL RIGHT, JOHN , LLOYD, >> ALL RIGHT, JOHN , LLOYD, GREAT TO HAVE YOU . GREAT TO HAVE YOU . THANK YOU . THANK YOU . AND POLICE ARE ISSUING A NEW AND POLICE ARE ISSUING A NEW WARNING ABOUT JUGGING. WARNING ABOUT JUGGING. IT'S A TREND IN CRIME WHERE IT'S A TREND IN CRIME WHERE POLICE SAY POTENTIAL BURGLARS POLICE SAY POTENTIAL BURGLARS FOLLOW SOMEONE FROM A BANK OR FOLLOW SOMEONE FROM A BANK OR AN ATM HOPING TO ROB THEM AT AN ATM HOPING TO ROB THEM AT ANOTHER LOCATION, ABC NEWS ANOTHER LOCATION, ABC NEWS JANAI NORMAN HAS WHAT YOU NEED JANAI NORMAN HAS WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW. TO KNOW. >> I KNEW WHEN HE WAS >> I KNEW WHEN HE WAS ON THE STREET EXACTLY WHAT HE ON THE STREET EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS AFTER THIS IS THE MOMENT WAS AFTER THIS IS THE MOMENT TEXAS RESIDENT LISA CAYZER TEXAS RESIDENT LISA CAYZER BECAME A VICTIM OF WHAT POLICE BECAME A VICTIM OF WHAT POLICE CALL BANK JUGGING. CALL BANK JUGGING. >> I STARTED SCREAMING TO >> I STARTED SCREAMING TO GET OUT OF MY CAR, GET OUT OF GET OUT OF MY CAR, GET OUT OF MY CAR. MY CAR. >> JUGGING IS WHEN CRIMINALS >> JUGGING IS WHEN CRIMINALS LIE IN, WAIT OUTSIDE BANKS OR LIE IN, WAIT OUTSIDE BANKS OR ATMS AND FOLLOW PEOPLE ATMS AND FOLLOW PEOPLE THEY BELIEVE HAVE WITHDRAWN THEY BELIEVE HAVE WITHDRAWN LARGE AMOUNTS OF CASH AND LARGE AMOUNTS OF CASH AND ROBBED THEM AT THEIR NEXT STOP. ROBBED THEM AT THEIR NEXT STOP. >> THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE >> THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING OUT WITH BANK THAT ARE WALKING OUT WITH BANK ENVELOPES, SAID MOM. ENVELOPES, SAID MOM. I KNOW HE TOOK THE MONEY I KNOW HE TOOK THE MONEY AND TOOK SOME OTHER ITEMS. AND TOOK SOME OTHER ITEMS. AND HE SAID , BUT HE DIDN'T AND HE SAID , BUT HE DIDN'T HURT YOU . HURT YOU . >> AND SO THAT'S WHAT MATTERS. >> AND SO THAT'S WHAT MATTERS. KIZER IS ONE OF A NUMBER OF KIZER IS ONE OF A NUMBER OF RECENT VICTIMS OF WHAT POLICE RECENT VICTIMS OF WHAT POLICE SAY COULD EASILY TURN VIOLENT. SAY COULD EASILY TURN VIOLENT. SOME OF THOSE CASES RECENTLY SOME OF THOSE CASES RECENTLY CAUGHT ON CAMERA. CAUGHT ON CAMERA. MULTIPLE STATES HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE STATES HAVE SEEN A RISE, INCLUDING TEXAS A RISE, INCLUDING TEXAS AND ALABAMA. AND ALABAMA. AND OKLAHOMA OFFICIALS TELLING AND OKLAHOMA OFFICIALS TELLING RESIDENTS TO STAY ALERT AFTER RESIDENTS TO STAY ALERT AFTER SEEING A COUPLE OF CASES LAST SEEING A COUPLE OF CASES LAST MONTH. MONTH. AND OCOEE, FLORIDA, JUST AND OCOEE, FLORIDA, JUST OUTSIDE ORLANDO, ISSUING OUTSIDE ORLANDO, ISSUING A CRIME TREND ALERT, JUGGING A CRIME TREND ALERT, JUGGING AND SOME FORM OR FASHION AND SOME FORM OR FASHION IS VERY COMMON. IS VERY COMMON. IT GOES BEYOND BANKS. IT GOES BEYOND BANKS. PEOPLE STAY OUTSIDE RESTAURANTS PEOPLE STAY OUTSIDE RESTAURANTS AND BARS IN THE EARLY MORNING, AND BARS IN THE EARLY MORNING, PICK OUT VULNERABLE PEOPLE, PICK OUT VULNERABLE PEOPLE, FOLLOW THEM A CERTAIN DISTANCE FOLLOW THEM A CERTAIN DISTANCE AND ROB THEM. AND ROB THEM. >> SO VIGILANCE IS KEY. >> SO VIGILANCE IS KEY. IT'S RECOMMENDED TO SECURE IT'S RECOMMENDED TO SECURE YOUR MONEY BEFORE YOU LEAVE. YOUR MONEY BEFORE YOU LEAVE. AND OF COURSE, BE AWARE OF AND OF COURSE, BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS. YOUR SURROUNDINGS. LOOK FOR VEHICLES THAT MAY LOOK FOR VEHICLES THAT MAY BE BACKED INTO PARKING SPOTS, BE BACKED INTO PARKING SPOTS, EVEN CIRCLE THE BLOCK TO SEE IF EVEN CIRCLE THE BLOCK TO SEE IF ANYONE IS FOLLOWING YOU AND IF ANYONE IS FOLLOWING YOU AND IF YOU BELIEVE YOU'RE BEING YOU BELIEVE YOU'RE BEING FOLLOWED, OF COURSE. FOLLOWED, OF COURSE. >> CALL POLICE. >> CALL POLICE. GREAT ADVICE, JANAI NORMAN. GREAT ADVICE, JANAI NORMAN. THANK YOU . THANK YOU . COMING UP, THE DIRE WARNING COMING UP, THE DIRE WARNING ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE BY TOP EXPERTS ARE NOW SAYING BY TOP EXPERTS ARE NOW SAYING IT POSES A , QUOTE, RISK OF IT POSES A , QUOTE, RISK OF EXTINCTION. EXTINCTION. ALSO AHEAD, THE NEW TRAVEL ALSO AHEAD, THE NEW TRAVEL TREND KNOWN AS SCHIP LAGGING IT TREND KNOWN AS SCHIP LAGGING IT CAN SAVE YOU MONEY, BUT IT CAN CAN SAVE YOU MONEY, BUT IT CAN ALSO COME AT A COST. WHEREVER YO CAN SAVE YOU MONEY, BUT IT CAN ALSO COME AT A COST. WHEREVER Y CAN SAVE YOU MONEY, BUT IT CAN ALSO COME AT A COST. WHEREVER YE CAN SAVE YOU MONEY, BUT IT CAN ALSO COME AT A COST. WHEREVER YT ALSO COME AT A COST. WHEREVER YT YOUR PODCASTS, I'M WELCOME YOUR PODCASTS, I'M WELCOME BACK . BACK . TOP TECH EXPERTS AND EXECUTIVES TOP TECH EXPERTS AND EXECUTIVES ARE ISSUING A NEW WARNING ABOUT ARE ISSUING A NEW WARNING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL DANGERS OF THE POTENTIAL DANGERS OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. HUNDREDS OF EXECUTIVES, HUNDREDS OF EXECUTIVES, RESEARCHERS AND ENGINEERS FROM RESEARCHERS AND ENGINEERS FROM TOP A.I. COMPANIES ARE SAYING TOP A.I. COMPANIES ARE SAYING IN A STATEMENT, QUOTE, IN A STATEMENT, QUOTE, MITIGATING THE RISK OF MITIGATING THE RISK OF EXTINCTION FROM I SHOULD BE A EXTINCTION FROM I SHOULD BE A GLOBAL PRIORITY ALONGSIDE OTHER GLOBAL PRIORITY ALONGSIDE OTHER SOCIETAL SCALE RISKS SUCH SOCIETAL SCALE RISKS SUCH AS PANDEMICS AND NUCLEAR WAR. AS PANDEMICS AND NUCLEAR WAR. ABC NEWS CONTRIBUTOR AND GOOGLE ABC NEWS CONTRIBUTOR AND GOOGLE TECH POLICY FELLOW ABC NEWS TECH POLICY FELLOW ABC NEWS JOINS ME NOW FOR MORE ON THIS. JOINS ME NOW FOR MORE ON THIS. MIKE , RISK OF EXTINCTION. MIKE , RISK OF EXTINCTION. WALK US THROUGH THIS. WALK US THROUGH THIS. >> I THINK THE RISK IS A LITTLE >> I THINK THE RISK IS A LITTLE BIT EXTREME WHEN IT COMES BIT EXTREME WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, BUT I THINK WHAT THESE TO THAT, BUT I THINK WHAT THESE INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO SAY INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED IS THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED MORE REGULATIONS IN PLACE IN MORE REGULATIONS IN PLACE IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT A.I. ORDER TO ENSURE THAT A.I. WILL ALWAYS BE USED FOR GOOD WILL ALWAYS BE USED FOR GOOD AND THAT THERE ARE RULES IN AND THAT THERE ARE RULES IN PLACE ALLOWED. PLACE ALLOWED. THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SIGNED THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SIGNED ON TO THIS STATEMENT ARE FROM ON TO THIS STATEMENT ARE FROM MAJORITY COMPANIES, COMPANIES MAJORITY COMPANIES, COMPANIES WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, AND THOSE TYPE PERIOD OF TIME, AND THOSE TYPE OF COMPANIES WHO HAD OF COMPANIES WHO HAD A PRINCIPLES, INCLUDING A PRINCIPLES, INCLUDING CHATGPT. CHATGPT. BUT WHAT THEY'RE REALLY BUT WHAT THEY'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS FOR THOSE CONCERNED ABOUT IS FOR THOSE ORGANIZATIONS WHO DON'T HAVE ORGANIZATIONS WHO DON'T HAVE GUARDRAILS, WHO DON'T HAVE GUARDRAILS, WHO DON'T HAVE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO ADHERE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO ADHERE TO , WHO MAY BE STARTUPS OR MAY TO , WHO MAY BE STARTUPS OR MAY BE LONE WOLVES, OUT THERE BE LONE WOLVES, OUT THERE WHO ARE ABLE TO DESIGN WHO ARE ABLE TO DESIGN THEIR OWN A.I. THAT COULD THEIR OWN A.I. THAT COULD BE USED FOR THAT. BE USED FOR THAT. >> NOW, THE CENTER FOR >> NOW, THE CENTER FOR ICE SAFETY IS WARNING OF ICE SAFETY IS WARNING OF SOME WORST CASE SCENARIOS, SOME WORST CASE SCENARIOS, THINGS LIKE USING A.I. TO BUILD THINGS LIKE USING A.I. TO BUILD CHEMICAL WEAPONS OR TO GENERATE CHEMICAL WEAPONS OR TO GENERATE DISINFORMATION THAT DISINFORMATION THAT DESTABILIZES SOCIETY. DESTABILIZES SOCIETY. CRITICS SAY THAT IS FAR TOO CRITICS SAY THAT IS FAR TOO UNDER DEVELOPED FOR THAT. UNDER DEVELOPED FOR THAT. BUT THAT, TO ME, SOUNDS LIKE BUT THAT, TO ME, SOUNDS LIKE A TEMPORARY REASSURANCE, RIGHT? A TEMPORARY REASSURANCE, RIGHT? DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT'S ONLY A DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THAT DOES MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THAT DOES BECOME A REAL RISK? BECOME A REAL RISK? >> I THINK EVERYTHING YOU JUST >> I THINK EVERYTHING YOU JUST LAID OUT, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE LAID OUT, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE POSSIBLE. POSSIBLE. BUT WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THEM, BUT WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THEM, THE KIND OF RAISING THE FLAG THE KIND OF RAISING THE FLAG HERE, IS THAT THEY REALLY WANT HERE, IS THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE GOVERNMENT THAT TO MAKE SURE GOVERNMENT THAT WORKS AT A VERY SLOW PACE, WORKS AT A VERY SLOW PACE, RECOGNIZING THAT INNOVATION RECOGNIZING THAT INNOVATION IS HAPPENING SO FAST. IS HAPPENING SO FAST. SO THE ERA OF LEGISLATION, SO THE ERA OF LEGISLATION, GOVERNANCE, GOVERNING GOVERNANCE, GOVERNING AND PUTTING POLICIES IN PLACE AND PUTTING POLICIES IN PLACE OR EVEN STANDING UP AT FEDERAL OR EVEN STANDING UP AT FEDERAL AGENCIES NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW. AGENCIES NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW. AND SWIFTLY TO ENSURE THAT AND SWIFTLY TO ENSURE THAT THOSE THINGS DO NOT CAUSE HARM THOSE THINGS DO NOT CAUSE HARM . . ON THE FLIP SIDE, DIANE , ON THE FLIP SIDE, DIANE , I WOULD LOOK AT IT FROM ANOTHER I WOULD LOOK AT IT FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE WHERE YOU COULD USE PERSPECTIVE WHERE YOU COULD USE A FOR GOOD TO DETECT CERTAIN A FOR GOOD TO DETECT CERTAIN CHEMICALS THAT ARE BEING CHEMICALS THAT ARE BEING PRODUCED IN CERTAIN AREAS OR PRODUCED IN CERTAIN AREAS OR REGIONS BY WAY OF DETECTING REGIONS BY WAY OF DETECTING THAT. THAT. SO IT COULD BE A WARNING SIGN SO IT COULD BE A WARNING SIGN THAT, HEY, THIS COUNTRY AND OR THAT, HEY, THIS COUNTRY AND OR THIS CELL IN THIS COUNTRY THIS CELL IN THIS COUNTRY IS REALLY CREATING IS REALLY CREATING THE POSSIBILITY OF POTENTIAL THE POSSIBILITY OF POTENTIAL TO HAVE A WEAPON OF TO HAVE A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION. MASS DESTRUCTION. SO BE MINDFUL OF IT BECAUSE SO BE MINDFUL OF IT BECAUSE LOOK AT SORRY, YOU COULD USE LOOK AT SORRY, YOU COULD USE A.I. TO TRY TO DEFEND AGAINST A.I. TO TRY TO DEFEND AGAINST THE DANGERS OF A.I.. THE DANGERS OF A.I.. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. IT'S ALWAYS A GIVE AND TAKE. IT'S ALWAYS A GIVE AND TAKE. THERE'S ALWAYS PROS AND CONS. THERE'S ALWAYS PROS AND CONS. SO JUST AS EQUAL PART, IT COULD SO JUST AS EQUAL PART, IT COULD BE USED FOR BAD AND EQUAL BE USED FOR BAD AND EQUAL PARTNER, FOR EXAMPLE, IT COULD PARTNER, FOR EXAMPLE, IT COULD BE USED FOR DETECTION, FOR BE USED FOR DETECTION, FOR NUCLEAR WARFARE. NUCLEAR WARFARE. IS THERE A NUCLEAR WARHEAD THAT IS THERE A NUCLEAR WARHEAD THAT IS GETTING WARMED UP IN IS GETTING WARMED UP IN A PARTICULAR REGION? A PARTICULAR REGION? THE AREA IS THIS CENTRIFUGE THE AREA IS THIS CENTRIFUGE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? IS MORE ACTION? IS MORE ACTION? >> IS THIS AREA IN THE REGION >> IS THIS AREA IN THE REGION AS A SOIL AND THE TEMPERATURE AS A SOIL AND THE TEMPERATURE GETTING MORE WARM? GETTING MORE WARM? THAT MEANS THAT CAN DETECT THAT MEANS THAT CAN DETECT SOMETHING IS HAPPENING, RIGHT. SOMETHING IS HAPPENING, RIGHT. LOOKING AT GUN BALLISTICS LOOKING AT GUN BALLISTICS AND LET YOU KNOW, IS THERE AND LET YOU KNOW, IS THERE MORE REASON THAT AREA WHERE MORE REASON THAT AREA WHERE YOU SEE QUANTITIES OF THAT? YOU SEE QUANTITIES OF THAT? AND SO I CAN BE USING DETECTION AND SO I CAN BE USING DETECTION EVEN FOR PANDEMICS TO BE ABLE EVEN FOR PANDEMICS TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE AHEAD OF TIME TO RECOGNIZE AHEAD OF TIME DISEASE, FAMINE, EVEN EARLIER DISEASE, FAMINE, EVEN EARLIER DETECTION OF HURRICANES IN DETECTION OF HURRICANES IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHERE SHOULD WE BEST ALLOCATE SHOULD WE BEST ALLOCATE RESOURCES TO BE ON THE FRONT RESOURCES TO BE ON THE FRONT END VERSUS WAITING A COUPLE OF END VERSUS WAITING A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER WHEN IT TAKES DAYS LATER WHEN IT TAKES DIFFICULT RESOURCES TO GO DIFFICULT RESOURCES TO GO THROUGH ALL THE DEVASTATION THROUGH ALL THE DEVASTATION AND DESTRUCTION THAT PROHIBITS AND DESTRUCTION THAT PROHIBITS SUPPLIES AND RESOURCES GETTING SUPPLIES AND RESOURCES GETTING TO AREAS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN TO AREAS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN THERE BECAUSE OF THE PREDICTIVE THERE BECAUSE OF THE PREDICTIVE MODELING. MODELING. FASCINATING OUT. FASCINATING OUT. G7 LEADERS RECENTLY CREATED G7 LEADERS RECENTLY CREATED A WORKING GROUP ON AI TO KIND A WORKING GROUP ON AI TO KIND OF CONSIDER REGULATIONS, THINGS OF CONSIDER REGULATIONS, THINGS THAT YOU ARE AND SOME OF WHAT THAT YOU ARE AND SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO IF THE GOVERNMENT DOES MOVE SO IF THE GOVERNMENT DOES MOVE TO TRY TO INCREASE REGULATIONS TO TRY TO INCREASE REGULATIONS IN THIS AREA, WHAT DO YOU THINK IN THIS AREA, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? >> AND WHAT DO THEY HAVE >> AND WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND HERE? TO KEEP IN MIND HERE? I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THE G7 I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THE G7 IS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION NOW, BECAUSE FOR FAR TOO FAR TO NOW, BECAUSE FOR FAR TOO FAR TO FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT THE U.S. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WHERE WE HAVE GOVERNMENT WHERE WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE IN TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE IN THIS GLOBALLY AS A GLOBAL THIS GLOBALLY AS A GLOBAL SOCIETY. SOCIETY. SO IT'S REALLY GREAT THAT SO IT'S REALLY GREAT THAT THE OTHER COUNTRIES ARE GETTING THE OTHER COUNTRIES ARE GETTING INVOLVED IS NO DIFFERENT. INVOLVED IS NO DIFFERENT. DIANE , FOR EXAMPLE, THE PARIS DIANE , FOR EXAMPLE, THE PARIS ACCORD TO REALLY GET OUR ACCORD TO REALLY GET OUR NATIONS, THE COUNTRIES NATIONS, THE COUNTRIES TO REALLY RALLY AROUND CLIMATE TO REALLY RALLY AROUND CLIMATE CHANGE TO BE EFFECTIVE AS ONE CHANGE TO BE EFFECTIVE AS ONE AS ONE GLOBAL WORLD AND AS ONE GLOBAL WORLD AND COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY. THE SAME THING NEEDS TO HAPPEN THE SAME THING NEEDS TO HAPPEN WHEN IT COMES TO AGI WHEN IT COMES TO AGI AND TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE SURE AND TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL ON ONE ACCORD THAT WE ARE ALL ON ONE ACCORD AS A GLOBAL SOCIETY TO MAKE AS A GLOBAL SOCIETY TO MAKE SURE THE GUARDRAILS ARE IN SURE THE GUARDRAILS ARE IN PLACE. PLACE. SO THAT WE DON'T SEE SUCH BAD SO THAT WE DON'T SEE SUCH BAD ACTORS. ACTORS. JUST AS EUROPE HAS MUCH JUST AS EUROPE HAS MUCH MORE STRINGENT POLICIES MORE STRINGENT POLICIES RELATING TO DATA PRIVACY, RELATING TO DATA PRIVACY, THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT DOES SO AT SOME POINT. DOES SO AT SOME POINT. THERE ARE OTHER COUNTRIES THERE ARE OTHER COUNTRIES WHO ARE AHEAD OF US IN CERTAIN WHO ARE AHEAD OF US IN CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE LAG BEHIND AREAS WHERE WE LAG BEHIND AND THERE'S OTHER AREAS WHERE AND THERE'S OTHER AREAS WHERE WE TAKE THE LEAD AND WE PULL WE TAKE THE LEAD AND WE PULL OTHER COUNTRIES ALONG. OTHER COUNTRIES ALONG. THAT'S WHY THAT G7 SUMMIT ABOUT THAT'S WHY THAT G7 SUMMIT ABOUT THEM COMING TOGETHER IS HIGHLY THEM COMING TOGETHER IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT AND IT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT AND IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE WATCHING CLOSELY. WE'LL BE WATCHING CLOSELY. >> MIKE NEWS, THANK YOU . >> MIKE NEWS, THANK YOU . THANK. THANK. AND NOW TO A NEW TREND THAT AND NOW TO A NEW TREND THAT COULD SAVE YOU BIG ON AIRFARE. COULD SAVE YOU BIG ON AIRFARE. BUT THERE'S A CATCH SO CALLED BUT THERE'S A CATCH SO CALLED SKIP LAGGING OR HIDDEN CITY SKIP LAGGING OR HIDDEN CITY TICKETING IS WHEN SOMEONE BOOKS TICKETING IS WHEN SOMEONE BOOKS A CONNECTING FLIGHT BUT A CONNECTING FLIGHT BUT ONLY USES HALF OF THE TRIP. ONLY USES HALF OF THE TRIP. BUT THE MOVE CAN COME BUT THE MOVE CAN COME WITH RISKS. WITH RISKS. TRANSPORTATION CORRESPONDENT TRANSPORTATION CORRESPONDENT GIO BENITEZ HAS WHAT YOU NEED GIO BENITEZ HAS WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW. TO KNOW. >> "GMA" TAKING A CLOSER LOOK >> "GMA" TAKING A CLOSER LOOK AT HIDDEN CITY TICKETING OR AT HIDDEN CITY TICKETING OR SKIP LAGI, LET'S SAY A NONSTOP SKIP LAGI, LET'S SAY A NONSTOP FLIGHT FROM NEW YORK TO L.A. FLIGHT FROM NEW YORK TO L.A. IS 500 BUCKS. IS 500 BUCKS. BUT A FLIGHT TO SEATTLE WITH A BUT A FLIGHT TO SEATTLE WITH A LAYOVER IN L.A. IS THREE LAYOVER IN L.A. IS THREE HUNDRED. HUNDRED. WELL, SOME TRAVELERS ARE WELL, SOME TRAVELERS ARE SKIPPING THAT SECOND FLIGHT SKIPPING THAT SECOND FLIGHT ALTOGETHER AND JUST STAYING IN ALTOGETHER AND JUST STAYING IN L.A. IF THEY CATCH YOU DOING L.A. IF THEY CATCH YOU DOING THIS, THEY DO RESERVE THE RIGHT THIS, THEY DO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO GO AFTER YOU FOR MORE MONEY TO GO AFTER YOU FOR MORE MONEY . . THEY COULD CANCEL YOUR FREQUENT THEY COULD CANCEL YOUR FREQUENT FLIER ACCOUNT. FLIER ACCOUNT. >> UNITED AIRLINES AND ORBITZ >> UNITED AIRLINES AND ORBITZ SUED SKIP LAGGED DOT IN 2014, SUED SKIP LAGGED DOT IN 2014, THE WEBSITE THAT HELPS THE WEBSITE THAT HELPS TRAVELERS FIND CHEAPER FARES. TRAVELERS FIND CHEAPER FARES. THE CASE WAS DISMISSED THE CASE WAS DISMISSED ON PROCEDURAL GROUNDS WHEN ON PROCEDURAL GROUNDS WHEN THE COURT RULED IT DIDN'T HAVE THE COURT RULED IT DIDN'T HAVE JURISDICTION. JURISDICTION. BUT SKIP LAGGED NOW PUTS BUT SKIP LAGGED NOW PUTS EXPLICIT WARNINGS ON ITS SITES EXPLICIT WARNINGS ON ITS SITES THAT THIS TYPE OF TICKETING THAT THIS TYPE OF TICKETING IS RISKY AND SHOULD NOT BE USED IS RISKY AND SHOULD NOT BE USED OFF. OFF. >> THE MORE A TRAVELER DOES, IT >> THE MORE A TRAVELER DOES, IT ,THE HIGHER LIKELIHOOD THAT AN ,THE HIGHER LIKELIHOOD THAT AN AIRLINE IS GOING TO SAY, HEY, AIRLINE IS GOING TO SAY, HEY, YOU'VE MISSED YOUR END YOU'VE MISSED YOUR END DESTINATION THREE , FOUR , DESTINATION THREE , FOUR , FIVE TIMES. FIVE TIMES. AND AT THAT POINT THERE AND AT THAT POINT THERE INTERNALLY ARE GOING TO SAY, INTERNALLY ARE GOING TO SAY, OKAY, SOMETHING ELSE GOING OKAY, SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON HERE WITH THIS CUSTOMER ON HERE WITH THIS CUSTOMER AND THAT IS GOING TO RAISE AND THAT IS GOING TO RAISE SOME FLAGS IN. SOME FLAGS IN. MANY TRAVELERS CAN DO IT MANY TRAVELERS CAN DO IT WITHOUT ANY ISSUE AT ALL. WITHOUT ANY ISSUE AT ALL. WE ENCOURAGE TRAVELERS WE ENCOURAGE TRAVELERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RISKS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RISKS ARE TO DO. ARE TO DO. WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THEM TO SKIP WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THEM TO SKIP LAGGING IS A VERY RISKY BET. LAGGING IS A VERY RISKY BET. AND IF YOU OR A MEMBER OF AND IF YOU OR A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY GETS CAUGHT, YOUR FAMILY GETS CAUGHT, YOU COULD END UP IN A LOT OF YOU COULD END UP IN A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH THE AIRLINE. TROUBLE WITH THE AIRLINE. I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT THE SAVINGS ARE WORTH THE RISK. THE SAVINGS ARE WORTH THE RISK. >> EVEN WITH THE HIGH AIRFARES >> EVEN WITH THE HIGH AIRFARES WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW. WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW. NOW, THIS ISN'T ILLEGAL, BUT NOW, THIS ISN'T ILLEGAL, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES. THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES. >> FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY THAT >> FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY THAT THAT CONNECTING FLIGHT THAT CONNECTING FLIGHT IS CANCELED AND YOU'RE REROUTED IS CANCELED AND YOU'RE REROUTED THROUGH ANOTHER CITY. THROUGH ANOTHER CITY. WELL, IT COULD COST YOU A LOT WELL, IT COULD COST YOU A LOT OF MONEY AND A LOT OF WORK OF MONEY AND A LOT OF WORK TO GET TO THE RIGHT PLACE, TO GET TO THE RIGHT PLACE, DIANE . DIANE . >> ALL RIGHT, GIO BENITEZ THANK >> ALL RIGHT, GIO BENITEZ THANK YOU . YOU . COMING UP, OUR FRIEND DR. PATEL COMING UP, OUR FRIEND DR. PATEL IS HERE WITH WHAT YOU NEED IS HERE WITH WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE IMPACT OF TO KNOW ABOUT THE IMPACT OF SOCIAL MEDIA ON BRAIN SOCIAL MEDIA ON BRAIN DEVELOPMENT. DEVELOPMENT. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK . WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK . THE STORY IS , THE STORY IS , WE'LL TAKE YOU THERE. WE'LL TAKE YOU THERE. YOU'RE STREAMING YOU'RE STREAMING "ABC NEWS LIVE". WELCOME BACK. IT IS TIME NOW FOR A TELL IT IT IS TIME NOW FOR A TELL IT LIKE IT IS WHERE DR. ALOK PATEL LIKE IT IS WHERE DR. ALOK PATEL SHARES HEALTH ADVICE SHARES HEALTH ADVICE ON THE TOPICS THAT MATTER MOST ON THE TOPICS THAT MATTER MOST TO YOU. TO YOU. JUST LAST WEEK, THE U.S. JUST LAST WEEK, THE U.S. SURGEON GENERAL ISSUED AN SURGEON GENERAL ISSUED AN ADVISORY ABOUT THE PROFOUND ADVISORY ABOUT THE PROFOUND RISK OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND HOW IT RISK OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND HOW IT COULD AFFECT TEEN MENTAL COULD AFFECT TEEN MENTAL HEALTH. HEALTH. SO HERE'S DR. PATEL. SO HERE'S DR. PATEL. WITH EVERYTHING YOU NEED WITH EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF TO KNOW ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF SOCIAL MEDIA ON BRAIN SOCIAL MEDIA ON BRAIN DEVELOPMENT, I'M TRYING DEVELOPMENT, I'M TRYING TO INCLUDE CERTAIN TYPES OF TO INCLUDE CERTAIN TYPES OF THE BRAIN AND IN SOCIAL PAY THE BRAIN AND IN SOCIAL PAY REALLY CLOSE ATTENTION TO ALL REALLY CLOSE ATTENTION TO ALL THE LIGHTS AND COMMENTS THAT THE LIGHTS AND COMMENTS THAT I GET BECAUSE THE APPROVAL OF I GET BECAUSE THE APPROVAL OF STRANGERS IS DRIVING STRANGERS IS DRIVING MY ACTIONS. MY ACTIONS. >> I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT THAT >> I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT THAT WAS, BUT THIS CANNOT BE GOOD WAS, BUT THIS CANNOT BE GOOD FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. >> WHILE THE SURGEON GENERAL >> WHILE THE SURGEON GENERAL DID JUST PUT OUT AN ADVISORY DID JUST PUT OUT AN ADVISORY ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF SOCIAL ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF SOCIAL MEDIA ON YOUTH MENTAL HEALTH, MEDIA ON YOUTH MENTAL HEALTH, THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING IN THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING IN THOSE ADOLESCENT BRAINS AND A THOSE ADOLESCENT BRAINS AND A LOT OF UNKNOWNS. LOT OF UNKNOWNS. SO LET'S GET CEREBRAL AND TALK SO LET'S GET CEREBRAL AND TALK ABOUT IT FIRST. ABOUT IT FIRST. IT'S NOT ALL DOOM AND GLOOM. IT'S NOT ALL DOOM AND GLOOM. >> THE MAJORITY OF TEENS DO, >> THE MAJORITY OF TEENS DO, SAY SOCIAL MEDIA GIVES THEM SAY SOCIAL MEDIA GIVES THEM PLACE FOR SUPPORT, CREATIVITY PLACE FOR SUPPORT, CREATIVITY AND CONNECTION. AND CONNECTION. >> BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN HAVE >> BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN HAVE TOO MUCH OF A GOOD THING. TOO MUCH OF A GOOD THING. ONE STUDY SHOWED THAT ONE STUDY SHOWED THAT ADOLESCENTS WHO CONSTANTLY ADOLESCENTS WHO CONSTANTLY CHECKED THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA CHECKED THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA SHOWED EARLY CHANGES IN PARTS SHOWED EARLY CHANGES IN PARTS THE BRAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BRAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR SOCIAL REWARDS AND PUNISHMENT SOCIAL REWARDS AND PUNISHMENT IN OTHER WORDS, THESE KIDS MAY IN OTHER WORDS, THESE KIDS MAY BECOME MORE SENSITIVE TO SOCIAL BECOME MORE SENSITIVE TO SOCIAL FEEDBACK. FEEDBACK. OUR BRAINS ARE LITERALLY WIRED OUR BRAINS ARE LITERALLY WIRED FOR INTERACTION WITH FELLOW FOR INTERACTION WITH FELLOW HUMANS, SOCIAL MEDIA GIVES HUMANS, SOCIAL MEDIA GIVES US INSTANT GRATIFICATION. US INSTANT GRATIFICATION. OUR BRAIN REWARDS US WITH FEEL OUR BRAIN REWARDS US WITH FEEL GOOD CHEMICALS SUCH AS DOPAMINE GOOD CHEMICALS SUCH AS DOPAMINE AREAS OF THE BRAIN LINKED AREAS OF THE BRAIN LINKED WITH REWARD ARE ASSOCIATED WITH REWARD ARE ASSOCIATED WITH REWARD SEEKING BEHAVIOR. WITH REWARD SEEKING BEHAVIOR. SO EVERY LIKE SMART AND FUNNY SO EVERY LIKE SMART AND FUNNY RACCOON VIDEO CAUSES A RELEASE RACCOON VIDEO CAUSES A RELEASE OF HAPPY NEUROTRANSMITTERS, OF HAPPY NEUROTRANSMITTERS, WHICH KEEPS US COMING WHICH KEEPS US COMING BACK TO THE APPS FOR MORE . BACK TO THE APPS FOR MORE . WE WANT KIDS TO PLAY, DO WE WANT KIDS TO PLAY, DO THEIR HOMEWORK, GO OUTSIDE. THEIR HOMEWORK, GO OUTSIDE. BUT IN THE ATTENTION GRABBING BUT IN THE ATTENTION GRABBING ECONOMY, SOCIAL MEDIA IS A ECONOMY, SOCIAL MEDIA IS A FORMIDABLE FOE. FORMIDABLE FOE. >> YOU'VE SEEN HOW CRAZY THINGS >> YOU'VE SEEN HOW CRAZY THINGS CAN GET ON THE APPS. CAN GET ON THE APPS. KIDS ARE EXPOSED TO ALL OF THIS KIDS ARE EXPOSED TO ALL OF THIS AT A TIME WHEN THEIR BRAINS ARE AT A TIME WHEN THEIR BRAINS ARE STILL DEVELOPING AND TEACHING STILL DEVELOPING AND TEACHING THEM ABOUT THEMSELVES AND THE THEM ABOUT THEMSELVES AND THE WORLD . WORLD . IT'S NO SURPRISE THAT TEENS IT'S NO SURPRISE THAT TEENS SPEND MORE THAN THREE HOURS SPEND MORE THAN THREE HOURS A DAY ON . A DAY ON . THE APPS ARE AT INCREASED RISK THE APPS ARE AT INCREASED RISK FOR HAVING MENTAL HEALTH FOR HAVING MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS. PROBLEMS. THAT SOCIAL MEDIA IS A RISK THAT SOCIAL MEDIA IS A RISK FACTOR FOR BODY IMAGE ISSUES. FACTOR FOR BODY IMAGE ISSUES. AND EATING DISORDERS. AND EATING DISORDERS. AND OVER 90% OF GEN IS , AND OVER 90% OF GEN IS , ACCORDING TO AT LEAST ACCORDING TO AT LEAST ONE SURVEY, ADMIT TO LOSING ONE SURVEY, ADMIT TO LOSING SLEEP BECAUSE SLEEP BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSTANTLY CHECKING THEY'RE CONSTANTLY CHECKING THEIR PHONES WITH THIS HUGE THEIR PHONES WITH THIS HUGE ISSUE. ISSUE. WE WANT TO SEE SOME ACTION FROM WE WANT TO SEE SOME ACTION FROM LAWMAKERS AND TECH COMPANIES, LAWMAKERS AND TECH COMPANIES, BUT IN THE END, IT'S ON ALL OF BUT IN THE END, IT'S ON ALL OF US . US . HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF NEURONS HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF NEURONS AND LITTLE DEVELOPING BRAINS. AND LITTLE DEVELOPING BRAINS. >> THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. >> THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. AND DR. ALOK PATEL JOINS ME NOW AND DR. ALOK PATEL JOINS ME NOW FOR MORE ON THIS DR. PATEL. FOR MORE ON THIS DR. PATEL. YOU MENTIONED STUDIES LOOKING YOU MENTIONED STUDIES LOOKING AT HOW SOCIAL MEDIA USAGE AT HOW SOCIAL MEDIA USAGE AFFECTS CHILDREN, BUT WHAT AFFECTS CHILDREN, BUT WHAT ABOUT LONG TERM IMPACTS? ABOUT LONG TERM IMPACTS? WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS? HAPPENS TO THIS? >> IN A BIGGER PICTURE, SCARY >> IN A BIGGER PICTURE, SCARY ANSWER, DIANE , IS WE DON'T ANSWER, DIANE , IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN KNOW WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE LONG TERM. THE LONG TERM. SO HERE'S A REALITY. SO HERE'S A REALITY. OUR BRAINS ARE NEURAL NETWORKS OUR BRAINS ARE NEURAL NETWORKS ARE SHAPED BY OUR CHILDHOOD ARE SHAPED BY OUR CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES. EXPERIENCES. THIS BRAIN PLASTICITY, FOR THIS BRAIN PLASTICITY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GREW UP PLAYING EXAMPLE, IF YOU GREW UP PLAYING THE VIOLIN AS AN ADULT, A PART THE VIOLIN AS AN ADULT, A PART OF YOUR BRAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR OF YOUR BRAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR TACTILE MOTIONS OR FINGER TACTILE MOTIONS OR FINGER MOTIONS, MAYBE ENHANCE. MOTIONS, MAYBE ENHANCE. THERE'S EVEN ONE STUDY SHOWING THERE'S EVEN ONE STUDY SHOWING THAT ADULTS WHO PLAY POKEMON THAT ADULTS WHO PLAY POKEMON AS A KID HAD CHANGES IN AS A KID HAD CHANGES IN THEIR BRAIN RELATED TO VISUAL THEIR BRAIN RELATED TO VISUAL AND SPATIAL ASSOCIATION. AND SPATIAL ASSOCIATION. SO RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SO RIGHT NOW THERE ARE RESEARCHERS LOOKING AT RESEARCHERS LOOKING AT HOW SOCIAL MEDIA MAY AFFECT HOW SOCIAL MEDIA MAY AFFECT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE BRAIN, DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE BRAIN, SUCH AS THE AREAS OF THE BRAIN SUCH AS THE AREAS OF THE BRAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR EMPATHY, FOR RESPONSIBLE FOR EMPATHY, FOR EMOTIONAL REGULATION, READING, EMOTIONAL REGULATION, READING, SKILLS PROCESSING, EVEN REWARD, SKILLS PROCESSING, EVEN REWARD, AS YOU MENTIONED, AND WORKING AS YOU MENTIONED, AND WORKING MEMORY. MEMORY. SO HOW THIS WILL AFFECT KIDS IN SO HOW THIS WILL AFFECT KIDS IN THE LONG DOWNSTREAM IS JUST THE LONG DOWNSTREAM IS JUST UNKNOWN. UNKNOWN. RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT EVEN MENTIONING I'M NOT EVEN MENTIONING THE HEALTH EFFECTS FROM THE HEALTH EFFECTS FROM THE LACK OF SLEEP BODY IMAGING THE LACK OF SLEEP BODY IMAGING ISSUES OR ALL THESE CRAZY ISSUES OR ALL THESE CRAZY HEALTH CHALLENGES WE'VE SEEN, HEALTH CHALLENGES WE'VE SEEN, SUCH AS THE BENADRYL NYQUIL SUCH AS THE BENADRYL NYQUIL CHALLENGE OR THE BLACKOUT CHALLENGE OR THE BLACKOUT CHALLENGE. CHALLENGE. SO THERE'S A LOT TO WORK SO THERE'S A LOT TO WORK WITH NOT ONLY NOW, BUT WITH NOT ONLY NOW, BUT TO PROTECT OUR KIDS IN TO PROTECT OUR KIDS IN THE FUTURE, I THINK. THE FUTURE, I THINK. >> PLUS HERE, IS THERE ANY >> PLUS HERE, IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE THAT OUR KIDS MIGHT EVIDENCE THAT OUR KIDS MIGHT BE LEARNING NEW SKILLS OR BE LEARNING NEW SKILLS OR CHANGING THEIR BRAIN CHANGING THEIR BRAIN DEVELOPMENT IN A POSITIVE WAY DEVELOPMENT IN A POSITIVE WAY FOR A SPEED CHECK? FOR A SPEED CHECK? BECAUSE THERE ABSOLUTELY IS THE BECAUSE THERE ABSOLUTELY IS THE MAJORITY OF TEENS, THIS MAJORITY OF TEENS, THIS IS ACCORDING TO A PEW SURVEY, IS ACCORDING TO A PEW SURVEY, ACTUALLY SAID THAT SOCIAL MEDIA ACTUALLY SAID THAT SOCIAL MEDIA GAVE THEM A PLACE FOR SUPPORT, GAVE THEM A PLACE FOR SUPPORT, CREATIVITY AND CONNECTION. CREATIVITY AND CONNECTION. >> AND THIS IS EVEN HIGHER IN >> AND THIS IS EVEN HIGHER IN ADOLESCENCE. ADOLESCENCE. OF COLOR OR MEMBERS OF OF COLOR OR MEMBERS OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY ARRIVE THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY ARRIVE AND SEE IT WITH KIDS WITH THEIR AND SEE IT WITH KIDS WITH THEIR DIAGNOSES. DIAGNOSES. WE KNOW THAT SOCIAL MEDIA CAN WE KNOW THAT SOCIAL MEDIA CAN BE A GREAT EDUCATIONAL TOOL BE A GREAT EDUCATIONAL TOOL AS WELL. AS WELL. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. THERE HAS TO BE BALANCE IN THERE HAS TO BE BALANCE IN HOW WE REGULATE AND APPROACH HOW WE REGULATE AND APPROACH THIS TOPIC. THIS TOPIC. SO WHAT CAN SOCIAL MEDIA SO WHAT CAN SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES DO AND WHAT CAN COMPANIES DO AND WHAT CAN PARENTS DO TO TRY TO HELP PARENTS DO TO TRY TO HELP ACHIEVE THAT BALANCE? ACHIEVE THAT BALANCE? >> YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF >> YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE MIGHT JUST PEOPLE OUT THERE MIGHT JUST IMMEDIATELY SAY, LIKE, HEY, IMMEDIATELY SAY, LIKE, HEY, SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES NEED SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES NEED TO DO X, Y AND Z. TO DO X, Y AND Z. BUT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS BUT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS LOOKING AT THEIR ALGORITHM, LOOKING AT THEIR ALGORITHM, WHAT THEY CAN'T CONTROL. WHAT THEY CAN'T CONTROL. I'M GOING TO READ YOU A QUOTE I'M GOING TO READ YOU A QUOTE AND DIRECTLY FROM THE CENTER AND DIRECTLY FROM THE CENTER FOR HUMAN TECHNOLOGY, WHICH FOR HUMAN TECHNOLOGY, WHICH SAYS THAT SOCIAL MEDIA SAYS THAT SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES USE PERSUADE COMPANIES USE PERSUADE TECHNOLOGY FOR, QUOTE, TO FIND TECHNOLOGY FOR, QUOTE, TO FIND SOCIAL CUES, PERSONALIZED FEES SOCIAL CUES, PERSONALIZED FEES AND MORE TO KEEP YOU COMING AND MORE TO KEEP YOU COMING BACK , MONITOR YOUR BEHAVIOR, BACK , MONITOR YOUR BEHAVIOR, TO ANALYZE YOU AS WELL AS THEY TO ANALYZE YOU AS WELL AS THEY CAN. CAN. SO THAT BEING SAID , THERE ARE SO THAT BEING SAID , THERE ARE MULTIPLE BILLS AND POLICY MULTIPLE BILLS AND POLICY STATEMENTS OUT THERE THAT LOOK STATEMENTS OUT THERE THAT LOOK AT SOCIAL MEDIA AND LOOK AT AT SOCIAL MEDIA AND LOOK AT THINGS SUCH AS SETTING A CURFEW THINGS SUCH AS SETTING A CURFEW ,TIME FOR MINORS, DATA ,TIME FOR MINORS, DATA COLLECTION AND DIGITAL COLLECTION AND DIGITAL ADVERTISING. ADVERTISING. TRANSPARENCY ABOUT TRANSPARENCY ABOUT THE ALGORITHM, PARENTAL CONSENT THE ALGORITHM, PARENTAL CONSENT OR LIMITING CERTAIN FEATURES OR LIMITING CERTAIN FEATURES SUCH AS DIRECT MESSAGING FOR SUCH AS DIRECT MESSAGING FOR MINORS. MINORS. I WILL TELL YOU ONE SPECIFIC I WILL TELL YOU ONE SPECIFIC STUDY CAME OUT FROM THE CENTER STUDY CAME OUT FROM THE CENTER FOR COUNTERING DIGITAL HATE, FOR COUNTERING DIGITAL HATE, WHERE THEY CREATED FAKE WHERE THEY CREATED FAKE PROFILES POSING AS 13 YEAR OLD PROFILES POSING AS 13 YEAR OLD TEENAGERS, AND THEY FOUND AN TEENAGERS, AND THEY FOUND AN INCREASE IN TARGETED MESSAGING INCREASE IN TARGETED MESSAGING ABOUT THINGS LIKE DIET AND BODY ABOUT THINGS LIKE DIET AND BODY IMAGE. IMAGE. AND MENTAL HEALTH DISORDERS. AND MENTAL HEALTH DISORDERS. >> WHEN THEY CHANGE >> WHEN THEY CHANGE YOUR USERNAME TO INCLUDE LOSE YOUR USERNAME TO INCLUDE LOSE WEIGHT, THOSE MESSAGES ABOUT WEIGHT, THOSE MESSAGES ABOUT LOSING WEIGHT WENT UP. LOSING WEIGHT WENT UP. TELL ME THAT YOU WERE USING AN TELL ME THAT YOU WERE USING AN ALGORITHM WITHOUT TELLING ME ALGORITHM WITHOUT TELLING ME YOU'RE USING AN ALGORITHM. YOU'RE USING AN ALGORITHM. >> I DR. PATEL. >> I DR. PATEL. I KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING I KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING A FAMILY MEDIA PLAN. A FAMILY MEDIA PLAN. WE ARE OUT OF TIME. WE ARE OUT OF TIME. WE'LL HAVE TO REVISIT THOSE WE'LL HAVE TO REVISIT THOSE THINGS. THINGS. BUT WE SO APPRECIATE YOU COMING BUT WE SO APPRECIATE YOU COMING ON . ON . AND I WANT TO REMIND AND I WANT TO REMIND OUR VIEWERS, TOO, THAT OUR VIEWERS, TOO, THAT DR. PATEL IS HERE TO TAKE DR. PATEL IS HERE TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. YOUR QUESTIONS. JUST LEAVE A MESSAGE ON OUR JUST LEAVE A MESSAGE ON OUR INSTAGRAM FEED AND HE MIGHT INSTAGRAM FEED AND HE MIGHT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION RIGHT HERE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION RIGHT HERE ON FRIDAY. ON FRIDAY. THANKS FOR STREAMING WITH US. THANKS FOR STREAMING WITH US. I'M DIANE MACEDO ABC NEWS. I'M DIANE MACEDO ABC NEWS. 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