Transcript for ABC News Live: Putin, Xi Jinping discuss 'peace plan' for war in Ukraine
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HI, I'M DIANE MACEDO TODAY
ON "ABC NEWS LIVE".
BRACING FOR BACKLASH AHEAD OF
A POSSIBLE INDICTMENT OF FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THE POSSIBLE LAST WITNESS HAS
TESTIFIED IN THE CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION INTO THE HUSH
MONEY PAYMENT TO ADULT FILM
STAR STORMY DANIELS.
REPUBLICANS CALL IT A POLITICAL
PERSECUTION AS OFFICIALS IN
NEW YORK AND OTHER PARTS OF
THE COUNTRY PREPARE FOR FALLOUT
CONCERNS ABOUT ANOTHER POSSIBLE
BANK FAILURE AMID ENCOURAGING
SIGNS FOR THE INDUSTRY.
PLUS, AMAZON ANNOUNCES MORE JOB
CUTS, WHAT IT ALL COULD MEAN
FOR THE NEXT INTEREST RATE
DECISION.
AND YOUR CREDIT CARDS.
AND A SWEET SIXTEEN SURPRISED
MIAMI KNOCKS OUT ONE SEED
INDIANA.
OVERNIGHT, WE HAD THE LATEST
ON MARCH MADNESS.
>> BUT WE BEGIN WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES PREPARING
FOR PROTESTS AND POTENTIAL
VIOLENCE IN THE EVENT THAT
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP
IS INDICTED.
THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT
WILL HAPPEN TODAY, AS TRUMP
CLAIMED, THERE ARE SIGNS THAT
PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK ARE
WRAPPING UP THEIR INVESTIGATION
INTO THE HUSH MONEY PAYMENT TO
STAR STORMY DANIELS.
SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER
AARON KATERSKY HAS THE LATEST.
>> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP
RELEASING AN INSULT FILLED
STATEMENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT
PROSECUTORS AND STORMY DANIELS
AFTER EARLIER MAKING IT
UNVERIFIED CLAIM HE WOULD
BE ARRESTED TODAY STEMMING FROM
AN INVESTIGATION INTO A HUSH
PAYMENT TO THE ACTRESS WEEKS
BEFORE THE 2016 ELECTION.
IT'S NOT THE PAYMENT, BUT
THE WAY TRUMP ACCOUNTED FOR IT
THAT COULD MAKE HIM THE FIRST
FORMER PRESIDENT TO FACE
CRIMINAL CHARGES.
THE MANHATTAN DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS BEEN
INVESTIGATING THIS FOR YEARS,
BUT IN RECENT WEEKS CALLED IN
FORMER AIDES KELLYANNE CONWAY
AND HOPE HICKS, ALONG
WITH MICHAEL COHEN, ONCE
TRUMP'S FIXER, WHO HAS ALREADY
SERVED FEDERAL PRISON.
>> TIME FOR WRITING THE CHECK,
HE SAYS AT TRUMP'S DIRECTION,
THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS.
>> THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH.
AND THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS RISE.
>> ROBERT COSTELLO, A LAWYER
WHO TESTIFIED FOR TRUMP
AND SAID HE ONCE ADVISED COHEN
CALLED HIM UNRELIABLE.
>> I'VE LISTENED TO MICHAEL
COHEN STAND IN FRONT OF
THE COURTHOUSE AND SAY THINGS
THAT ARE DIRECTLY CONTRARY
TO WHAT HE SAID TO US ON SOCIAL
MEDIA.
>> TRUMP CALLED FOR PROTEST,
AND THAT HAS DRAWN
THE ATTENTION OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT INTELLIGENCE
BULLETINS OBTAINED BY ABC NEWS
WARNED OF A SIGNIFICANT
INCREASE IN THREATS AND VIOLENT
RHETORIC AND SAY SOME OF
TRUMP'S MOST ARDENT SUPPORTERS
ARE STILL WILLING TO FIGHT
ON HIS BEHALF.
>> AND SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE
REPORTER AARON KATERSKY JOINS
ME LIVE FROM OUTSIDE
THE COURTHOUSE IN MANHATTAN,
ALONG WITH ATTORNEY JEFFREY
ROBBINS FOR MORE ON THIS.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING ON .
AND WHAT'S THE LATEST?
IS THERE ANY INDICATION AN
INDICTMENT COULD COME DOWN
TODAY?
THERE'S NOT, DIANE .
WE DON'T BELIEVE THE GRAND JURY
IS EVEN MEETING TODAY TO BE
ABLE TO VOTE ON WHETHER
TO INDICT FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THEIR NEXT SCHEDULED TO MEET
TOMORROW, WE BELIEVE.
AND SO THERE'S NO INDICATION
TO BELIEVE FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S SOCIAL MEDIA
MESSAGE FROM THE WEEKEND THAT
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE DAY
WHEN HE'S ARRESTED.
NONETHELESS, THERE ARE
PREPARATIONS UNDERWAY.
THERE ARE A LOT MORE OF METAL
BARRICADES AROUND THE COURT
TODAY.
I WAS JUST INSIDE THE CIVIL
COURT IN A DIFFERENT TRUMP
RELATED CASE.
THERE WAS SOME SECURITY ISSUE
THERE THAT DELAYED A HEARING
FOR ABOUT 20 MINUTES.
SO THERE'S ACTIVITY, BUT
THERE'S NOTHING FIRM.
THE CITY SAYS THERE ARE NO
SPECIFIC THREATS, BUT THEY ARE
PLANNING FOR DIFFERENT PROTESTS
.
AND WE ALREADY SAW ONE DOWN
HERE TODAY, ABOUT 15 PEOPLE.
SO NOT VERY MANY.
THEY'RE ALSO PLANNING ON WHAT
A SURRENDER OF TRUMP WOULD LOOK
LIKE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
SECRET SERVICE IN THE EVENT HE
IS INDICTED.
NOW, JEFF, WHAT DO YOU THINK
TRUMP CLAIMS THAT HE WOULD
BE ARRESTED TODAY.
COULD THERE BE A LEGAL STRATEGY
THERE?
WELL, I THINK THE STRATEGY,
DIANE , IS TO IMPOSE AS MUCH
PRESSURE FROM AS MANY
DIRECTIONS ON THE THE MANHATTAN
D.A. AS POSSIBLE.
AND THAT INCLUDES CREATING
A SWIRL OF CHAOS, JEOPARDIZING
THE KIND OF A SENSE OF
DELIBERATENESS IN ORDER THAT
THE MANHATTAN D.A. REALLY NEEDS
TO HAVE OCCURRED HERE IN ORDER
TO BEAT BACK THE ATTACKS
ON THE OFFICE FOR BEING OUT OF
CONTROL.
SOROS FUNDED FLAILING AROUND.
THE D.A. REALLY HAS TO PRESENT
IN AN ORDERLY, DELIBERATE WAY.
AND A CHAOS SCENARIO IS ONE
THAT HURTS THE MANHATTAN D.A.
AND FRANKLY HELPS THE FORMER
PRESIDENT NOW AARON.
>> MANY REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING
THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS BEING
WEAPONIZES HERE FOR
POLITICAL REASONS.
HOW ARE PROSECUTORS RESPONDING
TO THAT?
WELL, THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY
RESPONDING BECAUSE THEY DON'T
BELIEVE THEY ARE WEAPONIZES
THE JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT
THEY EXPECT.
THE POLITICAL ATTACKS, THEY'RE
THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT UNAWARE
OF THEM.
BUT THEY ARE TRYING.
THEY SAY, TO GO ABOUT
THEIR BUSINESS AND FOLLOW
THE FACTS AND THE LAW.
THAT'S THE REFRAIN THAT WE
ALWAYS HEAR FROM MANHATTAN
DISTRICT ATTORNEY ALVIN BRAGG,
CERTAINLY TO MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC, SOME OF THE OTHER
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS THAT
TRUMP FACES RELATED TO HIS ROLE
ON JANUARY 6TH OR HIS EFFORTS
TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION IN
GEORGIA OR HIS HANDLING OF
CLASSIFIED MATERIAL MAY SEEM
LIKE MORE CONSEQUENCE
PRIORITIES, BUT THIS
INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN ONGOING
FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS.
WHY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IS
MOVING THE WAY HE IS , HE
HASN'T EXPLAINED.
BUT THE CASE DOES SEEM CLOSE
TO A CHARGING DECISION.
>> IS THERE ANY SPECIAL
CONSIDERATION THAT GOES INTO
A CASE LIKE THIS TO AVOID ANY
APPEARANCE OF BIAS?
THERE CERTAINLY IS DIANE SAWYER
MORE PERHAPS THAN IN ANY CASE
IN HISTORY WHERE THERE IS SO
MUCH WITHERING CRITICISM.
AND NOW WE'VE GOT REPUBLICANS
INVESTIGATE WITH THREATENING
TO INVESTIGATE THE PROSECUTION
.
YOU HAVE THREATS OF RIOTS IN
THE STREET OR SECURITY ISSUES.
THERE IS A TREMENDOUS BURDEN
ON THIS D.A. TO LOOK NONBIASED,
TO LOOK CALM, TO LOOK RATIONAL,
TO LOOK AS AARON SAYS,
AS THOUGH HE'S SIMPLY FOLLOWING
THE FACTS AND THE LAW AND TO
AVOID FEEDING INTO A NARRATIVE
OF CHAOS AND FLAILING AROUND,
WHICH WILL HURT THE PROSECUTION
IF THERE IS ONE.
AND FRONT.
>> ALL RIGHT, AARON KATERSKY
JEFFREY ROBBINS, THANK YOU
BOTH.
AND CONCERNS ARE GROWING ABOUT
ANOTHER US BANK FAILING.
FIRST REPUBLIC BANK COULD
BE RECEIVING AN ADDITIONAL
LIFELINE FROM JPMORGAN CHASE.
TREASURY SECRETARY JANET YELLEN
ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS TODAY
DURING A BANKING ASSOCIATION
SUMMIT.
>> LET IT BE CLEAR,
THE GOVERNMENT'S RECENT ACTIONS
HAVE DEMONSTRATED A RESOLUTE
COMMITMENT TO TAKE
THE NECESSARY STEPS TO ENSURE
THAT DEPOSITORS SAVINGS AND THE
BANKING SYSTEM REMAIN SAFE .
>> THIS COMES AS THE FED
WILL BE MAKING A DECISION
ON RATE HIKES TOMORROW.
BUSINESS REPORT
ALEXIS CHRISTOFOROUS JOINS
US NOW TO BREAK DOWN THESE
NUMBERS FOR US .
ALEXIS , WHAT'S THE LATEST
ON FIRST OF PUBLIC?
>> WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING FOR
THERE?
SO THIS IS ANOTHER BIG REGIONAL
BANK WITH A HIGH NUMBER OF
UNINSURED DEPOSITORS.
SO PEOPLE BELIEVE THIS BANK
IS AT RISK.
WE SAW A STOCK DOWN 90% THIS
MONTH.
IT'S BOUNCING BACK TODAY.
WE'VE GOT FIRST REPUBLIC UP
ABOUT 40% RIGHT NOW.
LOOKS LIKE JPMORGAN CHASE
IS TRYING TO GET A BUNCH OF
BANKS TOGETHER TO COME UP
WITH A RESCUE PLAN FOR FIRST
REPUBLIC, WHICH COULD INCLUDE
POSSIBLY SELLING THE BANK.
NO WORD YET FROM FIRST
REPUBLIC.
AND THIS RATE HIKE DECISION
IS COMING DOWN TOMORROW.
WHAT IS THE FED TAKING INTO
CONSIDERATION THIS TIME AROUND?
>> BOY, THIS IS PROBABLY
THE MOST IMPORTANT FED MEETING
IN YEARS.
AND SO MUCH HAS CHANGED SINCE
THE LAST TIME THE FED MET JUST
A MONTH TO GO BECAUSE NOW WE
HAVE THESE BANK FAILURES.
SO THEY REALLY HAVE TO CHOOSE
BETWEEN THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS
,HIGH INFLATION OR STABILIZING
THE BANKING INDUSTRY.
WALL STREET'S SORT OF SPLIT
ON THIS, SOMETHING WE'RE GOING
TO GET A SMALLER QUARTER POINT
RISE IN RATES TOMORROW AS THE
FED CONTINUES ITS FIGHT AGAINST
HIGH INFLATION.
IT IS STILL HIGH AT
SIX PERCENT.
OR WILL THEY JUST LEAVE
INTEREST RATES ALONE AND GIVE
THE BANKING SECTOR AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SORT STABILIZE
IT?
A LITTLE BIT OF BREATHING ROOM
MAYBE.
HERE YOU GO .
YEAH, ALL RIGHT.
BUSINESS REPORT,
ALEXIS CHRISTOFOROUS.
THANK YOU.
MEANWHILE, THE U.S. IS WARNING
ABOUT CHINA'S SO-CALLED PEACE
PLAN FOR THE WAR IN UKRAINE.
CHINA'S LEADER, XI JINPING
IS DISCUSSING THIS PROPOSAL
WITH THE RUSSIAN PRESIDENT ,
VLADIMIR PUTIN.
BUT U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE
ANTHONY BLINKEN IS CALLING
THE PLAN A STALLING TACTIC AT
BEST.
FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT
TOM SOUFI BURRIDGE IS JOINING
US NOW FROM KYIV, ALONG
WITH BRITT CLENNETT IN HONG
KONG.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING
ON BRIT.
SECRETARY OF STATE
ANTHONY BLINKEN IS CALLING
CHINA'S PEACE PLAN A FACADE.
SO WHAT ARE THE KEY TAKEAWAYS
FROM THESE CONVERSATIONS
BETWEEN XI AND PUTIN SO FAR AND
WHY THOSE REMARKS FROM BLINKEN
?
WELL, DIANE , THAT THIS
RELATIONSHIP, ALTHOUGH
THE PANEL MAY BE ASYMMETRIC,
IS IMPORTANT TO BOTH COUNTRIES.
YOU KNOW, THEY ARE REALLY KEEN,
AS WE'VE SEEN, TO PUT
THE STRENGTH OF THAT
RELATIONSHIP ON FULL DISPLAY.
RUSSIA NEEDS CHINA POLITICALLY
,BUT ALSO ECONOMICALLY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S BURNT ALL OF ITS
BRIDGES WITH THE WEST.
NOW, CHINA VERY MUCH HAS
THE UPPER HAND HERE.
CHINA AT THE SAME TIME IS THE
SENIOR PARTNER.
BUT CHINA IS VERY HAPPY TO BUY
RUSSIAN COMMODITIES AND ALSO
PRESENT AN ALTERNATIVE ANTI US
VERSION OF THE WORLD ORDER.
AND ASIDE FROM TRADE
AND DEEPENING THE RELATIONSHIP,
YOU KNOW, THE WORLD IS FOCUSING
ON WHAT WILL BE DISCUSSED IN
TERMS OF UKRAINE.
BUT AS OF NOW, MUCH OF WHAT
DISCUSSED MAY REMAIN BEHIND
CLOSED DOORS.
OR WE KNOW FOR SURE IS THAT
RUSSIA IS HYPING THIS UP, THIS
VISIT, AND SHE'S WARM RECEPTION
WITH ALL THIS POMP AND CEREMONY
SHOWS JUST HOW MUCH PUTIN
IS KEEN TO HONOR XI.
COULD IT NEXT BE BEIJING?
YOU KNOW, RUSSIAN STATE MEDIA
SAID THAT PRESIDENT INVITED
PRESIDENT PUTIN FOR THE NEXT
MEETING IN CHINA SOMETIME THIS
DIANE .
>> SO, TOM , HOW HIGH ARE
THE STAKES FOR PUTIN IN THESE
TALKS?
I THINK THEY'RE INCREDIBLY
HIGH.
DIANE .
I MEAN, LOOK, CAST YOUR MIND
BACK TO A YEAR AGO.
I MEAN, THE INVASION OF UKRAINE
WAS A CATASTROPHE.
AND REALLY THE MONTHS SINCE
HAVE BEEN PRETTY BAD FOR
RUSSIA.
UKRAINIAN FORCES
ON THE OFFENSIVE AND EVEN NOW,
REALLY, RUSSIA'S OFFENSIVE IN
THE EAST IS STALLING AROUND
THAT CITY OF BAQUBA, WHICH
THEY'VE STRUGGLED TO TAKE FOR
MONTHS.
>> SO REALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S
SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, PUTIN
NEEDS FAUCI WAY MORE THAN SHE
NEEDS PUTIN.
AND IT'S INTERESTING,
YESTERDAY, AFTER SORT OF
INFORMAL TALKS AT THE BEGINNING
OF THE SUMMIT, IT WAS PUTIN
QUITE CLEARLY MENTIONING
UKRAINE.
I MEAN, MENTIONING THIS
SO-CALLED PEACE PROPOSAL FROM
THE CHINESE.
I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE
INTERESTING TO WHAT EXTENT
PUTIN CAN NUDGE TO TALK
MORE ABOUT UKRAINE, WHAT KIND
OF COMMUNIQUES SHE WILLING
TO MAKE AT THE END OF THIS
SUMMIT.
YOU KNOW, IT MEANS SO MUCH
TO RUSSIA TO HAVE PRESIDENT XI
SHOULDER TO SHOULDER AT THIS
PRECISE TIME IN HISTORY.
AND REALLY, AS THE CONFLICT
IS THE BACKDROP TO THIS, THIS
THIS WHOLE SUMMIT.
SO IT IS A BIG MOMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE WATCHING
CLOSELY AND IT WILL BE
INTERESTING TO SEE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, CHINA, YOU
KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT WHAT'S
HAPPENING HERE.
BUT AS BRIT SAYS, YOU KNOW,
THERE ARE CLEARLY OTHER BIGGER
INTERESTS FOR THE CHINESE RIGHT
NOW.
>> BUT FOR VLADIMIR PUTIN, THIS
IS ISSUE NUMBER ONE .
ALL RIGHT, BRITT CLENNETT IN
HONG TOM SOUFI BURRIDGE IN
KYIV.
THANK YOU BOTH.
SO WHAT'S THE REACTION ACROSS
AMERICA ABOUT
HOW THE GOVERNMENT IS HANDLING
THESE CONCERNS?
WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT KAREN
TRAVERS JOINS ME LIVE NOW FOR
MORE ON THAT.
KAREN, TALK WITH RADIO HOST
ACROSS THE COUNTRY EVERY DAY.
SO WHAT ARE THEY MENTIONING
ABOUT CHINA'S RELATIONSHIP
WITH RUSSIA?
YEAH, DIANE , A LOT OF
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT
THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING
TO DO ABOUT A MEETING LIKE THIS
BETWEEN CHINA'S PRESIDENT XI
AND RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR
PUTIN.
AND WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THE WAR
IN UKRAINE.
YOU HEARD THERE FROM TOM AND
BRIT, OF COURSE, ALL OF
THE GLOBAL STAKES HERE.
AND YESTERDAY, THE BIG QUESTION
AT THE WHITE HOUSE IS WHY
THE ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES
THAT CHINA HAS NOT YET SENT
THOSE LETHAL WEAPONS TO RUSSIA.
WHY THEY HAVE NOT MADE
A DECISION ON THAT.
THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS THEY DON'T
KNOW, BUT THEY DON'T BELIEVE
CHINA HAS YET MADE A MOVE IN
THAT DIRECTION.
THEY'RE WATCHING IT VERY
CLOSELY ON THE ISSUE OF THAT
PEACE PLAN.
A LOT OF QUESTIONS TODAY,
DIANE , ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD
MEAN, WHETHER OR NOT CHINA
IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO BE
A PEACE BROKER IN THIS OR WHAT
THE AGENDA IS THERE AND HOW
THEY'RE TRYING TO MAYBE PLAY
SIDES IN ALL OF THIS BY WORKING
WITH RUSSIA, BUT ALSO TRYING
TO STAY OUT OF THIS CONFLICT AT
THE SAME TIME.
NOW, OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN TRYING
TO REASSURE AMERICANS ABOUT
THE BANKING CRISIS IN THE MIDST
OF ALL THIS.
SO ARE THOSE ASSURANCES
WORKING?
>> I THINK THE FACT THAT YOU
HAD THE TREASURY SECRETARY,
JANET YELLEN, AGAIN TODAY GOING
OUT AND GIVING A SPEECH SAYING
THAT THE SITUATION
IS STABILIZING, THAT THE U.S.
BANKING SYSTEM IS SOUND SHOWS
THAT THEY UNDERSTAND HERE THAT
THEY STILL HAVE TO GIVE THOSE
ASSURANCES, STARTING WITH THE
PRESIDENT LAST WEEK ALL THE WAY
THROUGH OFFICIALS OVER THE LAST
10 DAYS.
DIANE , A BIG QUESTION I KEEP
GETTING FROM RADIO HOST ALL
ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS WHAT
IS THE ADMINISTRATION GOING
TO DO ABOUT THIS?
WHAT WILL THE PRESIDENT DO
TO ASSURE A SIGNATURE BANK
AND A SILICON VALLEY BANK
SITUATION?
WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN?
THE WHITE HOUSE SAID LAST WEEK
THAT THE PRESIDENT IS CALLING
ON CONGRESS TO EXPAND THE FDIC
AUTHORITY IN SITUATIONS LIKE
THIS, WHERE THE FDIC CAN CLAW
BACK COMPENSATION FROM
EXECUTIVES OF BANKS THAT HAVE
FAILED, THAT THE FDIC CAN
PREVENT BANKING EXECUTIVES FROM
GOING ON TO WORK AT OTHER BANKS
AFTER THEIR BANKS FAILED
AND ALSO EXPAND THEIR AUTHORITY
TO PUT FINES AGAINST SOME OF
THESE EXECUTIVES.
THE BIG THING THERE IS THE
PRESIDENT CAN'T DO THAT
BY HIMSELF.
HE'S CALLING ON CONGRESS
TO TAKE ACTION AND IT'S NOT
CLEAR THAT THEY WOULD MOVE
FORWARD ON THINGS LIKE THIS.
>> KAREN TRAVERS AT THE WHITE
HOUSE FOR US .
THANK YOU, KAREN.
AND PROSECUTORS HAVE RELEASED
NEW VIDEO OF THE EVENTS LEADING
TO THE DEATH OF A VIRGINIA MAN
AT A STATE PSYCHIATRIC
HOSPITAL.
WE DO WANT TO WARN YOU, THIS
VIDEO IS DIFFICULT TO WATCH.
AN EDITED VERSION OF THAT VIDEO
OBTAINED EARLIER BY THE
WASHINGTON POST SHOWS A NUMBER
OF DEPUTIES AND STAFF MEMBERS
PILING ON TOP OF IVO ITANO.
IT APPEARS HE'S FORCIBLY HEAD
DOWN FOR 11 MINUTES UNTIL HE
STOPS MOVING.
THE D.A. SAYS INVESTIGATORS
WERE TOLD OTIENO BECAME
COMBATIVE, BUT THAT THE VIDEO
SHOWS OTIENO WAS, IN
THEIR WORDS, NOT AGITATED
AND COMBATIVE, BUT FIDGETY,
STRESSED AND ANXIOUS.
PROSECUTORS HAVE CHARGED
TEN PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH SECOND
DEGREE MURDER.
>> COMING UP, FINDING MEANING
AT THE MUSEUM.
MEET THE NEW AUTHOR CREDITING
THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART
WITH CHANGING HIS LIFE AND HIS
CAREER.
ALSO AHEAD, THE BIG SWEET
16 UPSET.
WE HAVE THE LATEST IN
THE WOMEN'S NCAA BASKETBALL
TOURNAMENT WITH MIAMI
CINDERELLA STORY.
WELL, THEY HAVE A FAIRY TALE
ENDING.
STAY WITH US..
WELCOME BACK.
IN NEW YORK .
AND IS SHARING HIS STORY AFTER
TURNING HIS LIFE AROUND INSIDE
ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST FAMOUS
MUSEUMS.
AUTHOR PATRICK BRINGELLY
CREDITS MASTERPIECE IS AT
THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART
WITH NOT ONLY CHANGING HIS
CAREER BUT ALSO HIS LIFE.
KYRA PHILLIPS HAS MORE ON HIS
STORY AND HIS NEW BOOK, ALL
THE BEAUTY IN THE WORLD.
THE THING ABOUT WORKS OF ART
IS THAT THEY'RE STILL AND THEIR
SILENCE AND THEIR BEAUTIFUL,
BEAUTIFUL AND SILENT KEEPERS OF
HISTORY THAT HAD HELPED
PATRICK BRINKLEY SEE THE WORLD
DIFFERENTLY.
PROCESSING HIS INCONSOLABLE
GRIEF WITHIN THESE GALLERIES.
GRIEF IS A LOSS OF RHYTHM.
IT'S ONE IN TO SOMETHING
HAPPENS AND YOU STAND BACK .
DON'T KIND OF CONNECT IN
THE SAME WAY THAT YOU MIGHT
HAVE BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE
THINGS HAVE STOPPED.
AND I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT
FOR ME TO REMAIN STANDING STILL
FOR A WHILE WITH MY HEAD UP
LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS
BEAUTIFUL ART, BEAUTIFUL ART
THAT LED TO ALL THE BEAUTY IN
THE WORLD.
PATRIC'S NEW MEMOIR OF HOW WE
FOUND MEANING WITHIN ALL THESE
MASTERPIECES AT NEW YORK'S
FAMED METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF
ART.
TWO MILLION PIECES THAT WOULD
HELP HIM UNDERSTAND LIFE
AND DEATH IN A WHOLE NEW WAY
WHILE TAKING ON A CAREER CHANGE
HE NEVER SAW COMING.
LOOKING AT THESE MASTERPIECES,
BEING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, YOU
COULD SEE YOUR BROTHER, YOU
COULD FEEL YOUR BROTHER.
OH, ABSOLUTELY.
I SPENT THE GREATER PART OF
TWO YEARS, IN A WAY, SORT OF
SITTING BY A BEDSIDE OF
SOMEBODY THAT WAS ILL.
AND I THINK WHEN YOU DO THAT,
THERE IS SOMETHING PROFOUNDLY
SPIRITUAL KIND OF GOING ON .
>> AND I THINK MOST OF US COME
TO MUSEUMS IN SEARCH QUIETUDE
AND GRATITUDE.
PATRICK WAS DRAWN TO THE MET
DURING ONE OF THE WORST TIMES
OF HIS LIFE.
HIS JOB AT THE PRESTIGIOUS
"NEW YORKER" MAGAZINE HIT
A WALL, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME
HIS OLDER BROTHER, TOM WAS
DIAGNOSED WITH A FATAL CANCER.
>> TELL ME ABOUT YOUR BROTHER
TOM .
HE WAS VERY BRILLIANT, BUT HE
WAS ALSO JUST SUCH A REGULAR
DUDE, SUCH SORT OF
A STRAIGHTFORWARD KIND OF
A GUY.
HE DEALT WITH IT WITH WITH
GREAT BRAVERY AND GRACE
AND FOCUSING ON THE THINGS THAT
HE LOVED THAT REALLY MOTIVATED
ME.
>> IN THE END, TO WANT TO COME
TO THE MET GRACE THAT GUIDED
PATRICK HERE TO SEEK REFUGE IN
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACE HE
KNEW , HOPING THAT HE TOO COULD
FIND SUCH PEACE WITH HIS LIFE
AND NOT ONLY WOULD PATRICK FADE
INTO THE STILLNESS HE FOUND
AROUND HIM, BUT HE WOULD
EMBRACE IT WHEN HIS BROTHER
TOM PASSED AWAY NEARLY
THREE YEARS AFTER HIS
DIAGNOSIS, PATRICK LEFT HIS
MUNDANE LIFE AT THE MAGAZINE
AND BECAME A MUSEUM GUARD AFTER
TOM DIED.
AND YOU STARTED WORKING AS A
GUARD HERE.
YOU WROTE THAT YOU DIDN'T EVEN
NEED TO CLOSE YOUR EYES TO FEEL
WHAT YOU WISH TO FEEL.
>> I HAD ALL THESE PAINTINGS
TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, AND MANY
OF THOSE PAINTINGS THEY GAVE
OFF A FEELING OF PRESENCE,
A SORT OF POWER THAT REMINDED
ME OF TOM .
AND I WAS REMINDED, ESPECIALLY
WHEN I CAME TO THE MET, THESE
ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVED
WITH INTENSE SUFFERING.
AND YOU LOOK AT THESE IMAGES OF
BEARING THE CROSS.
>> AND I JUST FOUND THAT SO
MOVING AND MOVING PARALLEL
BETWEEN ONE MAN WHO DIED
FAR TOO YOUNG AND PATRICK'S
BROTHER, WHO DIED AT THE AGE OF
26 .
YOU KNOW, ALL OF US HAVE
SUFFERED OR BEEN IN THE COMPANY
OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S
VERY BASIC.
SO WHAT'S THE ONE WORD YOU
WOULD USE TO HAVE THIS MAKES
YOU FEEL?
I WOULD SAY I DON'T KNOW IF
IT'S ONE WORD, BUT I WOULD SAY
THAT YOUR HEART BREAKS, BUT
YOUR HEART BEGINS AT THE SAME
TIME.
IT FILLS YOU UP.
YOU KNOW, IT EXPANDS YOU
SOMEHOW.
>> GROWTH AND GRATITUDE.
PATRICK NEVER EXPECTED AS HE
MADE HIS WAY FROM THE LABYRINTH
OF HALLS DOWNSTAIRS TO THE
BRIGHT GALLERIES ABOVE,
SPENDING COUNTLESS HOURS
ROAMING THESE CORRIDORS,
FINDING CAMARADERIE THROUGH
SOLITUDE.
AND THE FELLOW GUARDS WHO STOOD
WATCH IN STILLNESS RIGHT
WITH HIM.
>> I KNOW THIS WILL BE A TOUGH
QUESTION TO ANSWER.
WHAT WAS THE ONE PIECE YOU KEPT
COMING BACK TO ?
>> THERE'S A PAINTING IN
THE OLD MASTER'S WING.
PETER BRING BRAGG GOES
TO HARVESTER'S AND SOMETIMES
YOU WANT TO THINK OF THESE
PAINTINGS LIKE WINDOWS, AND THE
HARVESTER'S IS ONE OF
THE GRANDEST WINDOWS.
IT JUST REMINDS ME OF HOW ALL
OF US WE LIVE OUR LITTLE LIVES
IN THE FOREGROUND WHILE THIS
VAST SORT OF GLIMMERING
WORLD SPREADS OUT AROUND US .
BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO
THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE PEOPLE
THAT WE LOVE.
IT'S ABOUT THESE PEOPLE AND THE
FELLOWSHIP THAT THEY'RE HAVING.
>> SPEAKING OF FELLOWSHIP,
CLEARLY NOBODY WILL EVER
REPLACE YOUR BROTHER.
BUT YOU FOUND A WHOLE NEW TYPE
OF BROTHERHOOD AND SISTERHOOD
WITH ALL THE GUARDS HERE.
>> YES, THE GUARDS HERE ARE
EXTRAORDINARY.
THERE'S MORE THAN
FIVE HUNDRED GUARDS THAT WORK
HERE.
THEY ARE FROM EVERY COUNTRY.
YOU CAN IMAGINE EVERY
BACKGROUND YOU CAN IMAGINE.
AND SO MANY HAVE DONE ALL
DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THEIR
LIVES.
AND I FOUND THE RICHNESS OF
THE GUARD CORPS TO BE ONE OF
THE RICHEST COLLECTIONS OF
ANYTHING IN THIS MUSEUM.
>> AN UNFORGETTABLE EXPERIENCE
THAT PROVED PATRICK COULD FIND
ALL THE BEAUTY IN THE WORLD
THROUGH THE GIFT OF BEING
A GUARD AND OBSERVING EVERY DAY
HOW THE POWER OF ART CAN PLAY
OUT IN ALL OUR LIVES.
HOW IS TOM PART OF ALL
THE BEAUTY IN THE WORLD?
WELL, FOR ONE , HE IS A
BEAUTIFUL PERSON AND HE WAS
MY BIG BROTHER AND I LEARNED
A GREAT DEAL FROM HIM.
FOR ANOTHER, THAT PERIOD OF
MY LIFE WAS FULL OF GREAT
BEAUTY AND IT WAS FULL OF GREAT
PAIN.
FOR ALL MY FAMILY.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S
THE BEAUTY OF HUMAN EXISTENCE,
THAT THERE IS PAIN, THERE
IS STRUGGLE, THERE IS LOSS.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S COMING FOR
US IN THE END AND WE HAVE
TO MAKE MEANING OF THAT.
WE HAVE TO FACE IT.
THANKS TO KYRA PHILLIPS FOR
THAT REPORT.
COMING UP, MARCH MADNESS
IS HEATING UP AS ANOTHER NUMBER
ONE SEED BITES THE DUST IN
THE WOMEN'S TOURNAMENT.
AND UNDEFEATED SOUTH CAROLINA
GO ALL THE WAY.
STAY
BACK STREAMING "ABC NEWS LIVE"
.
>> WELCOME BACK.
THE NCAA WOMEN'S SWEET
SIXTEEN IS SET AFTER A HUGE
UPSET NUMBER NINE SEED MIAMI
TOOK OUT NUMBER ONE SEED
INDIANA GEARING UP FOR AN
EXCITING NEXT ROUND.
>> WILL REEVE HAS THE DETAILS.
HI, WILL THE WOMEN'S SWEET
SIXTEEN IS SET.
AND SOME OF THAT WE GOT HERE
IS STUNNING.
OVERNIGHT, NINE SEED MIAMI
KNOCKING OFF NUMBER ONE INDIANA
IN A TWO POINT THRILLER,
DESTINY HARDY HITTING THIS
TIEBREAKING DAGGER WITH JUST
SECONDS LEFT.
THEN THE HURRICANES GETTING
THE STEAL TO SEAL THE WIN.
THAT'S AFTER ONE SEED STANFORD
LOST ON SUNDAY, WHICH THIS
IS THE FIRST TIME THERE'S
MULTIPLE TOP SEEDS OUT BEFORE
THE SWEET SIXTEEN FOR THE FIRST
TIME IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS.
IN FACT, A ONE SEED HAD NOT
LOST BEFORE THE SWEET
SIXTEEN SINCE TWO THOUSAND
NINE .
AND IT HAPPENED ON BACK TO BACK
NIGHTS THIS YEAR.
ELSEWHERE, OHIO STATE ALSO
ADVANCING AFTER JSI SHELDON
THIS JUMPER WITH TWO SECONDS
REMAINING TO BEAT NORTH
CAROLINA AND UCONN ADVANCING
TO ITS TWENTY NINTH CONSECUTIVE
SWEET SIXTEEN .
THEY'RE LED BY COACH GENO
AURIEMMA, THE HUSKIES, THE MOST
DECORATED TEAM IN WOMEN'S
BASKETBALL HISTORY, WITH ELEVEN
TITLES BUT NONE SINCE 2016.
SOUTH CAROLINA HAS WON TWICE
SINCE THEN, INCLUDING LAST YEAR
.
DAWN STALEY SQUAD UNDEFEATED
THIS SEASON, LOOKING RATHER
UNBEATABLE.
THEY'VE WON THEIR FIRST
TWO GAMES BY THIRTY PLUS POINTS
.
ALL THE WOMEN SWEET
SIXTEEN ACTION TIPS OFF THIS
FRIDAY ON ESPE.
>> DIANE WATSON WILL REEVE.
THANKS FOR THAT AND THANK YOU
FOR STREAMING BEST.
I'M DIANE MACEDO.
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