Transcript for ABC News Live Prime: Thursday, January 26, 2023
[THEME MUSIC] LINSEY DAVIS: Five former police officers are charged with murder in Memphis, accused of brutally beating Tyre Nichols after he ran from a traffic stop. Now the community is bracing, as police prepare to release reportedly graphic body camera video.
- I'm sickened by what I saw. In a word, it's absolutely appalling.
LINSEY DAVIS: With yet had another case like this, has anything changed since the death of George Floyd? The other cases that have caused outrage and furthered calls for change.
Plus, one prominent attorney, Alec Murdaugh, breaks down in court while on trial for the murders of his wife and son-- THE video played for the jury.
And defining reparations. A city in Rhode Island enacted a program, but it doesn't give individuals cash, and white residents can also benefit, leading to concerns about whether it goes far enough.
- Reparations is the work to repair the harm that has been done to Black people in this country.
- Good evening, everyone. I'm Linsey Davis. Thank you so much for streaming with us. We've got all that and more tonight, including the key ISIS operative that was taken out in a US special ops mission in Somalia. Plus the massive investigation now launched into Southwest Airlines, the probe into what the government says could be an unfair and deceptive practice.
But we do begin in Memphis, where five police officers face murder charges in connection with the death of Tyre Nichols at a traffic stop earlier this month. Tonight the Memphis community is bracing for the release of reportedly graphic video of the incident. His final words were reportedly of him calling out to his mother, eerily similar, of course, to the dying words of George Floyd. Many are thinking, here we go again.
This afternoon the district attorney announced second degree murder charges against the five now former police officers, who do all happen to be Black. As the public waits for the video of the incident, tonight Nichols' family is asking for peaceful protests, and the police chief, governor, even the president have echoed their calls. We're standing by to talk with the family's lawyer, Ben Crump, and the President of the NAACP in Memphis.
But first, our Elwyn Lopez leads us off.
ELWYN LOPEZ: Tonight five former Memphis Police officers facing murder charges in the death of Tyre Nichols.
- While each of the five individuals played a different role in the incident in question, the actions of all of them resulted in the death of Tyre Nichols, and they are all responsible.
ELWYN LOPEZ: The five former officers charged with second degree murder, aggravated kidnapping, and assault, among other crimes.
- Under the laws of Tennessee, second degree murder is a knowing killing.
ELWYN LOPEZ: Police say Nichols was pulled over for alleged reckless driving on the night of January 7th.
WOMAN: We have one running on foot.
ELWYN LOPEZ: According to the district attorney, after an initial altercation with police, pepper spray was deployed. Nichols, then fleeing. He was confronted again, resulting in serious injuries.
WOMAN: Subject fighting at this time.
ELWYN LOPEZ: Memphis Police saying Nichols complained of having a shortness of breath, at which time an ambulance was called to the scene. The 29-year-old critically injured, dying three days later.
The family, commissioning an independent autopsy. Their attorney stating preliminary findings show Nichols suffered extensive bleeding caused by severe beating. At this time that autopsy has not been publicly disclosed and ABC News has not seen it.
Two Memphis Fire Department personnel involved in treating Nichols were quote, "relieved of duty while an internal investigation is being conducted." Those five officers, all part of the department's street crime unit known as Scorpion, fired after an internal investigation concluded they, quote, "Violated multiple department policies, including excessive use of force, duty to intervene, and duty to render aid."
- This is not just a professional failing. This is a failing of basic humanity toward another individual. This incident was heinous, reckless, and inhumane.
ELWYN LOPEZ: The director of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation speaking today.
- Frankly, I'm shocked. I'm sickened by what I saw. I've seen the video. You will too. In a word, it's absolutely appalling.
ELWYN LOPEZ: Nichols' mother, unable to watch the full video.
ROWVAUGHN WELLS: He was less than 80 yards away when they murdered him. Yes, I said murdered.
MAN: That's right.
- My son died on January 7th. The doctors pulled the plug on January 10th.
ELWYN LOPEZ: And tonight, attorneys for the family, stating that these, "Five officers being held criminally accountable for their deadly and brutal actions gives us hope as we continue to push for justice for Tyre."
Attorneys for two of the former officers, Desmond Mills Jr. and Emmitt Martin saying their clients intend to plead not guilty.
- No one out there that night intended for Tyre Nichols to die.
- Though that certainly was the outcome. Elwyn Lopez joins us now. Elwyn, the city is bracing for the release of this video. What can we expect?
- Yeah, Linsey. The president is joining Tyre's family in calling for peaceful protests, stating that violence is never acceptable. The DA here says there's about an hour of body camera and surveillance footage that is expected to be released tomorrow. Police from D.C. To Memphis, all bracing for protests. Linsey.
LINSEY DAVIS: All right. All preparing for that. Elwyn Lopez, our thanks to you.
We're joined now by attorney Ben Crump, who is representing the Nichols' family. First, thank you so much for joining us. Let's get your response to the arrests and the charges against these five officers, and how the family is reacting to those actions tonight.
Well, Linsey, the family is relieved that they have confirmed that these officers will face criminal accountability in a court of law for what they did to Tyre Nichols. It's still painful for his parents and his siblings and their entire family, but they are a little relieved to know that there will be criminal charges that are being brought.
- Officials are planning to release video of Tyre's violent beating tomorrow evening. I know that the family has seen that video already. You've seen that video. Can you give us just a sense of what we might see in that video.
- As I said, Linsey, it's going to remind many people of Rodney King. You know, and tragically, unlike Rodney King, Tyre doesn't survive. I mean, it's so difficult to watch the video. Because even while he's being brutalized, you still see the humanity in Tyre, that he was a good kid, even though the police are, I mean, saying all kind of profane things to him.
He still is asking in a calm voice, he's like, "What did I do?" And, "I just want to go home." And you just kept waiting for one of those officers, Linsey, to say, OK. OK, guys. We got him. Let's just calm down. Let's just de-escalate. But they never do.
- The Shelby County DA said today that there are multiple sources of video and that, quote, "People will be able to see the entire encounter from beginning to end." Can you describe what the sources of video are? Is this all police body cam footage?
- No. It's multiple videos. And thank god for video, because you see everything that happened. And there's audio that is reprehensible to match what we see with our eyes. And it's just tragic, because you see Tyre-- I mean, he's getting assaulted and battered, and it's just troubling on so many levels that they continue to escalate.
They never de-escalate. And it's just heart-wrenching at the end when, you know, he calls for his mother three times-- I mean, heart-wrenching cries for his mother. And then he never says another word again.
LINSEY DAVIS: Any concerns for you about how this case has been handled to this point by the Memphis Police and the Shelby County DA's office?
- Well, the family is relieved that they terminated the officers in a swift manner. And they also are thankful that the charges were brought today. And everybody who talked about him, everybody we've met talked about him just being a gentle soul who, you know, love to skateboard, loved photography, loved to take pictures of sunsets as often as he could. And his coworkers at FedEx say he was just an incredible person. And he was focused on being a good father for his four-year-old son.
LINSEY DAVIS: You, of course, Mr. Crump, have represented countless families in recent years who've lost loved ones during police encounters. Does the fact that these five officers involved in Tyre's death were all Black, does that change the dynamics of this case at all?
BEN CRUMP: What I've found, Linsey, in my almost 25 years of doing this civil rights work in America is that it is not the race of the police officer that is the determining factor of whether they're going to engage in excessive use of force, but it is the race of the citizen.
And oftentimes it's Black and Brown citizens who bear the brunt of this police brutality. We don't see our White brothers and sisters, who are unarmed, encounter this type of excessive force at the hands of police.
LINSEY DAVIS: Attorney Ben Crump, representing the Nichols family. We always appreciate you talking with us. Really appreciate your time and insight.
- Thank you, Linsey.
- George Floyd, Daunte Wright, Patrick Lyoya-- Tyre Nichols is far from the only person who has died following a brutal encounter with police, calling into question just how we are policed as a country, and whether we are facing a systemic abuse of power.
May 25th, 2020 was a turning point in America, and perhaps globally. George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin, who pressed his knee into his neck for nine and 1/2 minutes.
- I can't breathe!
- You're talking--
- Ah!
LINSEY DAVIS: Cell phone video of the murder sparked national outrage. Protests erupted from coast to coast, in what was called a racial reckoning.
- I can't breathe!
- Former Officer Chauvin was convicted of murder more than two years later, capping what some hoped to be the beginning of a new age of accountability. As the streets filled with calls for justice, another movement began to grow for Breonna Taylor, a woman who was killed months earlier.
On March 13th, 2020, only minutes after midnight, authorized by a no knock warrant, Louisville officers used a battering ram to force their way into her home, seeking out her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker.
OFFICER: Please come out! Put your hands up!
LINSEY DAVIS: Shots were fired at the scene.
OFFICER: Walk straight back or I'll send this dog on you.
LINSEY DAVIS: Kenneth called 911 for help and fires a shot because he says he thought there was a break-in.
- Y'all was banging at the door, and she said, "Who is it?" And then y'all just shooting!"
LINSEY DAVIS: Breonna Taylor is struck by eight bullets and killed.
[CHANTING]
Her family reached a $12 million settlement with the city of Louisville. An officer involved in the raid was later indicted on three counts of wanton endangerment for shots that entered a neighboring apartment. The officer who shot Breonna Taylor was not charged.
- How did they just get away with this? You just kick a door down and just bang, bang, bang, bang and get away with it!
LINSEY DAVIS: Passionate calls for justice grew, demanding change. April 11th, 2021, in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, Daunte Wright was pulled over for expired registration tags by Officer Kim Potter and a trainee. The officers in the stop attempted to take Daunte into custody after determining he had a warrant out for his arrest. He resisted.
Officer Potter warns that she's about to fire her taser, but instead Wright's car is seen speeding off before crashing into another car, where he died at the scene. Potter was found guilty of manslaughter and sentenced to two years.
- I lost my son. He's never coming back. I can't accept that.
LINSEY DAVIS: Another family finds itself as the newest members of an unfortunate and growing club of mourning parents, brothers, and sisters, looking to change a system that is supposed to be meant to protect them.
Just days after the start of the new year, in Los Angeles, father and English teacher Keenan Anderson died while on a trip to visit his family January 3. The 31-year-old was stopped by an officer, when witnesses pointed to him as the cause of a nearby crash. Police say Anderson was erratic. Body camera footage shows he was tased repeatedly.
- Help! Help! Help! They're trying to kill me!
- Hey, stop, or I'm gonna tase you.
- They're trying to George Floyd me.
LINSEY DAVIS: He died in a hospital more than four hours later. Officers claimed he suffered a medical emergency. His family filed a $50 million wrongful death suit against the city. The LAPD is reviewing its policies on the use of tasers. Police are waiting for a completed autopsy report.
Anderson was the cousin of Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors, whose work became a rallying cry in the days after Floyd's death. We spoke to her on Prime about how this familiar tragedy is now sewn into the fabric of her own family.
- It's exhausting to think that for a decade, many of us have been doing this work, and now it's at my own doorstep. And I feel like it's surreal still, because I'm not just grieving. My whole family is. And we're all trying to make sense of this moment.
- Joining us now for more is the President of the NAACP chapter in Memphis, Van Turner Jr. Thank you so much for your time tonight. You're, of course, in Memphis on the go in your car there we see. You've said that the burning down of your own community will not solve this problem, the Memphis community and beyond. They're, of course, waiting to see video of this incident. Are you concerned about what could potentially happen tomorrow night once the video's released?
- Well, I am. But I think in this instance we see that there's been transparency. The officers were terminated pretty swiftly. The charges have come out today. So all those things, which contributed to violent protest and disruption and just an overall feel that there was a cover up in other cases, you don't see those factors here. For instance, the officers were terminated. They were not suspended with pay. There's been no union effort to speak out on behalf of these officers in a big way.
These officers were fired, terminated, supported by the chief of police. They have been indicted as a result of what the district attorney has done and has come up with through his investigation. And the tape will be released tomorrow. And so all the factors that we've seen in the past, which have led to violent protests, we don't see those factors here.
So for those reasons I think there will be protests, and there should be protests, but hopefully we won't see the violence and the destruction that we've seen in other cases.
- Fair point. What would you say to those who argue that it's difficult to ask a community that's been on the receiving end of violence to not act out in the same way for those people who might desire to do harm potentially?
- Yeah. We can't allow folks to use the case of Tyre Nichols as a vehicle to do something else. In other words, those who are upset with the government, those who are pro-law enforcement, those who are against law enforcement, and that's what they do throughout the entire country. This is not the vehicle for you to exercise what you want to do.
We're here to support the family of Tyre Nichols. We're here to call out a wrong that has been done. And we are here for those purposes. We're not here to use this as a vehicle to tear up our city or burn down our city. That type of destructive behavior is not welcome.
- As has been discussed, of course the five officers that were charged are Black. Do you believe that their behavior is a result of systemic problems at the Memphis Police Department or does it go far beyond to become a nationwide problem?
- Well, it's nationwide. Obviously we've seen that with the case of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor. There have been cases before. So, you know, this is an issue that I think that all law enforcement agencies have to deal with, unfortunately.
But we need to keep in mind this is not indicative of all law enforcement officers, just a few of these officers who are doing wrong. And those officers should be prosecuted. They should be brought to justice. They should be terminated from the force, and never allowed to go to another force.
- You're running for mayor of Memphis. The election is later this year. It's likely that viewing the video will only accelerate calls locally to defund the police. Where do you stand on that?
- I won't be a voice to defund the police. I will be a voice that says, hey, we need to support law enforcement, especially when they're doing right and they're serving and protecting us. And officers who would do wrong, who would commit crimes, we need to bring them to justice as swiftly as possible, as quickly as possible, and put forth every effort to have the law be what it's supposed to be, and to bring these officers to justice and have them serve the penalty for what they've done.
But on the flip side, we have a crime issue here in the city that has to be respected. It has to be acknowledged. So we do want law enforcement to do the job that they were asked to do. And we need to support them in doing so.
LINSEY DAVIS: Well, if there are protests in the upcoming days, certainly we hope that they are peaceful. Van Turner Jr, we thank you for your time. Appreciate it.
- Thank you very much.
- As we look at the systemic issues behind policing, we're also examining another systemic issue impacting the African-American community. It's something a city in Rhode Island thinks it's found a solution for with reparations. But the parameters of the program are raising questions about just who is allowed to benefit, and who was given a seat at the table making those decisions. Our Morgan Norwood dives into the policy and the history. We'll have that story coming up later on in the program.
But first, in New York City today a man was convicted for an ISIS-inspired attack which killed eight people back in 2017 when he drove a rented truck down a Manhattan bike path along the Hudson River, ramming into pedestrians riding their bikes. He was convicted by a federal jury of murder and attempted murder in what prosecutors said was an attempt to gain entry into ISIS. That same jury will now decide whether he deserves the death penalty.
Now to the trial of Alex Murdaugh, a once prominent attorney, now on trial for the murders of his wife and son. Murdaugh appeared distraught today as the first witnesses took the stand and jurors were shown body camera video. ABC'S Eva Pilgrim has those details.
EVA PILGRIM: For the first time, jurors in the trial of Alex Murdaugh saw police bodycam from the moments officers arrived on the family's property, where Murdaugh's wife Maggie and son Paul had been shot to death. That video, shielded from public view. But the first officer describing the grisly scene.
- The male victim laying on the ground to my left, as well as the female victim on the ground to my right. There was a large deal of blood that had pooled around his body. The same thing for the female victim on the right.
EVA PILGRIM: Alex Murdaugh appearing distraught in the courtroom. But that officer testifying when he met Murdaugh at the crime scene that night, he wasn't crying.
- Did you ever see any tears in your interactions with Mr. Murdaugh?
- He did not appear to be crying. He was upset, but I did not see any visible tears.
EVA PILGRIM: In that body cam, Murdaugh can be heard immediately offering an explanation for the shootings, telling police that they were related to a 2019 boat crash that killed one of Paul's friends, for which Paul was facing charges.
This is a long story. My son was in a boat wreck. He's been getting threats. Most of it's been benign stuff we didn't take serious. You know, he's been getting punched. That's what it is.
- Who brought up the boat incident?
- Mr. Murdaugh did.
- And within a few minutes of your arrival, he's the one that brought up the boat incident.
- He did.
- Is that correct? And he offered that right out of the gate as a possible explanation for what happened here. Is that right?
- Yes.
EVA PILGRIM: Murdaugh repeatedly asking about his wife and son.
- Did you check them?
- We got medical guys that are-- that's what they're going to do. OK?
- What are they doing? Can they hurry?
- They are. Yes, sir.
- They aren't dead are they?
- Yes, sir. That's what it looks like.
EVA PILGRIM: The defense today, hammering away at the possibility police compromised evidence at the crime scene.
ATTORNEY 1: You would agree with me, one of the cardinal rules of a crime scene is keep it pristine, don't walk over things, try to preserve tire tracks, get pictures of them, footprints, all those sorts of things.
EVA PILGRIM: But officers, defending their investigation that night.
ATTORNEY 2: Are you aware that any evidence was contaminated in this case?
- I'm not.
ATTORNEY 2: Did you engage in everything you could to avoid contaminating evidence?
- Yes.
- Eva Pilgrim joins us now. Eva, you were in that courtroom today. The jury saw a lot of graphic images from the scene. How did they seem to react?
- Well, Linsey, the jury seemed to be paying very close attention to the entire proceeding, many of them having a visible reaction to what they saw. And you could tell, it was hard for some of those jurors to view these images. Linsey.
LINSEY DAVIS: All right. We can imagine. Eva Pilgrim, our thanks to you.
Next to Washington, where the Justice Department and FBI mounted a dramatic crackdown on a notorious $100 million Russian hacking operation. Attorney General Merrick Garland announced today that US agents had infiltrated the Hive ransomware network that was targeting everyday Americans. After hiding within the network for seven months, the DOJ shut down Hive servers.
The Department of Transportation is investigating that Southwest Airlines holiday travel nightmare, saying it will look at whether executives engaged in unrealistic scheduling of flights, which under federal law is considered an unfair and deceptive practice. The airline canceled more than 16,000 flights due to a major computer failure, coupled with severe winter storms.
Southwest says it's cooperating with the probe, and that its systems became stressed during the multi-day travel mess. The Transportation Department also wants to make sure those passengers promised refunds received them quickly.
There is news coming in late today about US Special Operation forces killing a top ISIS leader during a daring ground raid in Somalia. ABC'S Chief Foreign Affairs Anchor Martha Raddatz joins us now with the latest. Martha, what do we know exactly about this operation?
- Linsey, this really was a dramatic and risky ground raid by US Special Operations forces that the Pentagon says ended with the death of at least 10 ISIS fighters, including a man named Bilal al-Sudani, who is said to be a top ISIS leader and organizer. President Biden authorized the raid that had been planned for weeks.
The military had done practice runs and mockups of the target area, similar to what was done for the bin Laden raid. But the target last night was a cave complex in northern Somalia. The Special Operations team descended on the complex from helicopters, and were then engaged in a fierce firefight with the ISIS fighters. But fortunately, no US forces were killed in the raid, and they returned to their base. Linsey.
LINSEY DAVIS: All right. Martha Raddatz for us. Our thanks to you as always.
Russia has unleashed a missile and drone attack across Ukraine, just 24 hours after the US and its allies promised dozens of tanks to the country. Homes and buildings were destroyed, 11 people were killed. Our team has rare access inside a military field hospital near the front lines. They hope those tanks will help turn the tide of the war. Here's Tom Soufi Burrich.
TOM SOUFI BURRIDGE: Tonight, Russian missiles spreading terror across Ukraine. The Kremlin launching around 70 missiles and lethal Iranian drones. Ukraine saying it shot down 47 of the missiles, and all 17 drones. But the attacks, still killing 11 people.
Putin lashing out, after the US and its allies pledged advanced tanks to Ukraine. The race now on to get new NATO weaponry onto the battlefield, with Russia pounding the eastern city of Bakhmut in a brutal battle which is claiming countless Russian lives.
But the cost heavy for Ukraine too. Blood-stained stretches outside this military field hospital, our team getting rare access inside.
This soldier's been rushed back from the fighting. He's got a neck wound. They're now trying to stabilize his injury, the medics here, before he's taken onto another medical facility nearby.
Dozens of wounded soldiers rushed here every day. And some of them cannot be saved.
People are dying every day.
- Yeah.
- Lots of people.
- Yeah. It shouldn't be like that.
- Linsey, the fighting here in the east is brutal. We've been hearing the constant boom of artillery all day. You can hear the air raid siren now. And tonight, Germany's saying its advanced tanks won't reach this battle zone until the end of March. In the coming weeks this war is expected to escalate again. Linsey.
LINSEY DAVIS: Tom Soufi Burridge for us. Thank you, Tom.
Former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao is breaking her silence after a series of racist comments from her former boss, former President Donald Trump. So what is she saying in response? Here's ABC'S Chief Washington Correspondent Jonathan Karl.
JONATHAN KARL: For months Donald Trump has taunted his former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao with a series of racist insults, calling her "Coco Chow," and "the China-loving wife of Mitch McConnell," the top Republican in the Senate. At first Chao, who also served as Labor Secretary for George W. Bush, and was the first Asian-American woman to serve in a presidential cabinet, brushed off the crude insults.
- He's trying to get a rise out of us. He says all sorts of outrageous things. And I don't make a point of answering any one of them.
JONATHAN KARL: Now she is hitting back, issuing a statement saying, quote, "When I was young some people deliberately misspelled or mispronounced my name. Asian-Americans have worked hard to change that experience for the next generation," adding, "Trump doesn't seem to understand that, which says a whole lot more about him than it will ever say about Asian-Americans."
Chao served in Trump's cabinet for almost the entirety of his presidency, only resigning after he provoked the January 6th attack on the Capitol, saying it, quote, "Deeply troubled me in a way I simply cannot set aside."
- When we come back, the revelations that are prompting more calls for an embattled new Congressman to resign. And it's a show that doesn't shy away from the tough topics and intrigue. Ginny And Georgia's Brianne Howey dives into the mysteries of the show's new season.
But first, the controversy of a reparations program in Rhode Island, as the state grapples with its role in institutionalized racism.
- There is really no Black neighborhood anymore. And Black folks without resources are being forced to go to the lesser towns, 10, 15, 20 miles out of town.
- When the topic of reparations comes up, certain things come to mind like direct cash payments, perhaps. But a program in Rhode Island is not only forgoing that, it's also allowing White people to benefit. With a long history of institutionalized racism in the state, many are questioning whether this goes far enough to repair the harm against Black and Indigenous people.
ABC'S Morgan Norwood traveled to Providence to examine the controversy and the history.
- Me being Latina, well, it's five minutes. It was fine. You know? If you have a party, make sure you tell me it's a half an hour early, because I'm going to be there half an hour late. OK?
MORGAN NORWOOD: Evelyn Ranone may call Rhode Island home, but she refers to herself as a Philly Rican.
- That's the Puerto Rican in me. I can't help it. I'm authentic, I tell people.
MORGAN NORWOOD: An authenticity she encourages young emerging leaders to tap into. It's something she learned from her own mentor, Lisa Ranglin, the President and CEO of the Rhode Island Black Business Association, known as RIBBA. Lisa quit her six-figure job in banking to help other aspiring Black and Brown business professionals like Evelyn get their start.
And to see her on that stage, what was going through your mind?
- She's a star. And I'm so proud to know you.
- I was born and raised in Philadelphia, a family of 11, same mom, same dad. I'm number 11. And so you could imagine, we pretty much lived in poverty. My parents always believed that education was important. They couldn't leave us any kind of wealth behind. And that's how Lisa and I connected.
MORGAN NORWOOD: RIBBA hopes to help produce more successful Black and Brown business professionals. And thanks to the $150,000 received from the city's reparations program, they can.
- Oftentimes when people think about reparations, they think of a check or cash in hand.
- I think it's easy to give a check out to somebody, a $200, $500. But when we think about really building sustainability, $500 is not going to move the dial in any meaningful way.
MORGAN NORWOOD: Providence is just one of many cities that have started a reparations program. And advocates have spent decades fighting for this, demanding America offer some financial recompense to descendants of enslaved people.
The history of Rhode Island, supporters say, makes a strong case. At one point it was the slave trade capital of the colonial United States, with more than 1,000 slave ships coming in from Africa by the end of the 18th century. And some hundreds of years later, the residue remains.
In fact, much of it memorialized here inside Stages of Freedom. And like its name, it documents just that. From wall to wall, Black art, books, exhibits, journeying through the history and heritage of Providence, curated by local historian and former State Representative, Ray Rickman.
RAY RICKMAN: This neighborhood, as late as 1960, was 30% Black.
MORGAN NORWOOD: He says the impact of slavery is still being felt by Rhode Island's Black population. What is it like now?
RAY RICKMAN: They're gone. There is really no Black neighborhood anymore and Black folks without resources are being forced to go to the lesser towns, 10, 15, 20 miles out of town.
MORGAN NORWOOD: That area we asked about is College Hill, just a few blocks down from the museum, surrounding the prestigious Brown University. The campus, a harsh reminder of the scars of slavery. The memorial proclaiming the pain from the ones who built the school brick by brick at the demand of its founder, John Brown, a slave trader.
While the institution of slavery has been abolished, the remnants of an unequal system are still evident. In Rhode Island alone, White households earned 50% to 70% more than Black, Hispanic, and American Indian households. It's why former Mayor Jorge Elorza signed a $10 million reparations budget into law.
- Not only are we addressing some of the systemic challenges in our own community, but we're also encouraging and inspiring other levels of government and other institutions to take up this cause as well.
MORGAN NORWOOD: The racial reckoning following the death of George Floyd and raging protests inspired the city to take steps in addressing their own role in institutionalized racism. They decided to use COVID-19 response money to fund a reparations program.
The only catch though, the money is subject to federal guidelines, meaning although the program was meant to provide funding to Black and Native American residents, it's considered race neutral, so White residents and non-descendants of slaves can also benefit.
- If we made this race-base as opposed to race neutral, we would likely get sued, and we'd be locked in litigation for two, three years.
RODNEY DAVIS: The federal guidelines basically forced us to have to look at census tracts. And one of those impacted communities were those who were economically disadvantaged.
MORGAN NORWOOD: And rather than direct payments to citizens, reparations IN Providence are distributed through investments into small businesses and programs, including workforce training and financial literacy like RIBBA.
When most people think of reparations, they're thinking of a check. They're thinking 40 acres and a mule.
- I often joke, this was reparations 2.0. Because it's rethinking. It's almost like giving someone a bucket of water that has holes in it. So we're looking at, how do we start addressing these holes so that we can carry that water forward to the next generation?
MORGAN NORWOOD: The struggle to determine the best forms of reparations have been just as divisive as the topic itself. According to the Pew Research Center, 77% of African-Americans support reparations, compared to just 18% of White Americans. Of those supporters, the majority believe financial assistance for education, businesses, and homes would be the most helpful forms of repayment.
But some think the program in Providence misses the mark. If you ask former Brown University student and activist Justice Gaines will tell you the reparations program is unethical.
- It's not reparations. What this policy is, is it is city funds from COVID-19 to fund an anti-poverty program. That's not what reparations is. Reparations is the work to repair the harm that has been done to Black people in this country.
- What would you like to see? What would reparations look like from your vantage point?
- I believe it has to have a process in our city where we truly understand what it means to include Black people and Indigenous people at all parts of life. We have multiple tribes in this state. And so, what does it mean to give them space to work out their own issues so that they can be part of this conversation?
MORGAN NORWOOD: The reparations committee claims the Indigenous community was involved in the planning. But Rhode Island's only federally recognized tribe, the Narragansett Indians, tells ABC News, neither former Mayor Elorza's office, nor the reparations commission reached out. Elorza's office has declined to comment.
- That $10 million that the mayor-- it was great Bet $10 million is a drop in a pool, not even a bucket. Because if we really wanted to repair the harm, it's going to be hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of millions of dollars.
- Is the ultimate hope that this catches on in the rest of the country?
- So we're seeing people beginning to go, hmm. This is really happening. And we really need to pay attention to it. Whether they like it or not, are we getting everything that we wanted at the beginning? Of course not. However, just even having it, acknowledging the harm-- I'm sorry for what this city, this state has done. That was a powerful thing.
MORGAN NORWOOD: ABC also contacted the current Providence mayor, Brett Smiley, to inquire about his plans for the program. But we have not received a response.
ELWYN LOPEZ: You all in the BIPOC community are so important to the growth of the businesses, not only here in Rhode Island, but nationwide.
- We must elevate the communities that we serve, especially those communities that have been left behind way, way too long. I don't believe in handout, but rather, we've got to be there to be a hand up, and support people in an intentional way.
- Just giving dollars and cents out to people is not going to necessarily change their entire life. But being able to educate, train them, empower them is going to help them change their lives.
- Our thanks to Morgan for that. Still ahead here on Prime, what the brother internet personality Andrew Tate is now saying about the human trafficking allegations against them. How Boeing pleaded in court as it faces a criminal charge for those deadly 737 MAX crashes. And the latest report card on the economy is released, amid fears of a possible recession. We take a closer look at where things stand, by the numbers.
Welcome back, everyone. The latest report card on the economy shows some positive signs, even as concerns remain about a looming recession this year. Let's take a look by the numbers. The US economy grew at an annual rate of 2.9% in the final three months of the year, according to the latest GDP report from the Commerce Department.
That's slightly better than expected, and more than the 2.1% the economy grew for all of 2022. And while it's down a bit from the 3.2% growth in the previous year, the continuing growth means the economy is not currently in a recession.
What's driving the latest growth? Consumer spending, which makes up roughly 2/3 of domestic activity, rose 2.1%. And there was continued growth in private inventory investment, as well as government spending. But a slowdown in housing dragged down growth, and there are concerns that some of consumer spending is already slowing down.
The Federal Reserve is expected to raise interest rates once again by 0.25% next week, and how much and how long they continue to raise rates in the coming months may be the biggest factor influencing the economy ahead. The Fed is trying to cool off still high inflation. Their preferred measure shows prices up 3.2% in the last quarter.
The Fed wants to get that closer to 2%, and officials say they'll keep raising rates to try to slow down the economy. Whether they can do that without tipping the economy into a serious recession is still unclear. But there are hopes that a soft landing with only a minimal recession that doesn't cause widespread layoffs could still happen. But for now it's a wait and see.
And we still have lots to get to here on Prime Tonight. The whiskey company being sued over allegations that the company didn't make it clear that some of its mini-bottles don't actually have whiskey in them.
And the story behind the bizarre moment at a basketball game when a food delivery worker just walks right out onto the court.
WOMAN 1: The embattled New York Congressman at the center of controversy, now facing new questions about his campaign finances.
- No remarks for you guys right now.
WOMAN 1: Just months ago, George Santos reported loaning his campaign more than $700,000 of his own money. But this week Santos made a change to those filings, un-checking the box which indicated most of that money came out of his own pocket. By federal law, candidates must disclose how they are funding their campaign.
The Long Island Republican, accused of lying about his education and his background, has brushed off questions. Santos has still not answered questions about how he was able to donate more than half a million dollars his campaign after earning $55,000 two years earlier.
- I have no clue what you're talking about, ma'am. Have a great day.
WOMAN 2: An FDA official, who had a prominent role in the agency's response to last year's infant formula shortage, has resigned. Frank Yiannas, the Deputy Commissioner for Food Policy and Response, announced his resignation, effective February 24th.
Yiannas was among the senior officials who had a major role in the response to the formula crisis. He admitted to lawmakers that internal failures and communication breakdowns contributed to how bad the situation became. Yiannas' resignation also comes with the FDA under audit for whether it responded adequately to the crisis.
WOMAN 3: The Boeing Company has pleaded not guilty to fraud charges stemming from two deadly 737 MAX jet crashes. The company is accused of concealing information about flight control systems on its plane that led to the two crashes that happened in 2018 in Indonesia and 2019 in Ethiopia, killing 346 people. Boeing originally avoided a trial by agreeing to pay $2.5 billion.
WOMAN 2: Family members of victims were allegedly never consulted about the deal. 12 families were allowed to speak to a judge in court, sharing what happened after losing their loved ones in the crashes, and lashing out at the agreement.
MAN 1: Do those mini-bottles of Fireball sold in markets and gas stations actually contain whisky? A civil lawsuit filed in federal court in Illinois claims the answer to that question is no. The lawsuit says Fireball has been misleading customers, who purchased mini-bottles sold at non-liquor stores, claiming that they did not have any whiskey, despite having nearly identical labels to bottles sold in liquor stores.
Those mini-bottles say they contain "Natural whisky flavors and other flavors," when the suit claims they don't. The lawsuit says the plaintiff paid more than she should have for a product she thought contained whiskey.
WOMAN 2: Tristan Tate, the brother of divisive internet personality Andrew Tate, spoke out about the human trafficking allegations against them in Romania.
TRISTAN TATE: The story you should be covering is what evidence is there against Tristan Tate. There is none. The police have fabrications. They have no-- there's no evidence.
MAN 2: The Tate brothers were being escorted into an Anti Organized Crime Agency building when the comments were made.
WOMAN 2: The Tate brothers and two suspects have been detained in Romania since December 29th on charges of rape, human trafficking, and being part of an organized crime group. A court recently extended their detention to February 27th.
This guy is actually-- who's he delivering it to?
MAN 2: A bizarre scene broke out at a college basketball game between Duquesne and Loyola Chicago when a food delivery worker walked onto the court during the game. The worker was seen carrying a McDonald's bag onto the court during the second half of the game in Pittsburgh, standing just behind the players. Gameplay was temporarily stopped, as the man was ushered off the court. The special delivery was too good to be true. School officials later confirmed the man was wearing a microphone and the incident was part of a prank.
- Welcome back. It's the show taking the internet by storm. Netflix's record-breaking smash hit Ginny & Georgia is turning up the heat. And in its second season at this point, not shying away from tackling tough topics. Our Diane Macedo sat down with the show's star, Brianne Howey, diving into the murder and the mystery of this latest season.
GEORGIA (VOICEOVER): I finally understand why Georgia's always running. I don't know how she does it, act like everything's normal. And I can't help feeling like it's all wrong.
[SCREAMING]
- Ginny & Georgia, season two, and you're now number one on Netflix two weeks in a row. How does it feel?
- It feels incredible. It's surpassed all of our expectations. And I'm just so grateful to everyone who has watched, because we wouldn't get to do this if they didn't. So thank you.
- What do you think keeps viewers coming back?
- We have such a wide variety of storylines and characters that cover so many different subjects that are kind of sticky subjects, whether it's race, love, mental health. And I think they're conversation starters in a really authentic way. And I think people are resonating with these characters and storylines. And the more you can recognize yourself, I think the less alone you feel. And people are just identifying with it.
- And with those sticky storylines, this season you're tackling things like sexuality abuse, self-harm.
BRIANNE HOWEY: Right. Yeah.
- What did you think when you saw the script and you saw that's where the show is heading.
- I mean, we work with-- we work very closely with Mental Health America. So it's incredible to have their support, and to make sure that we handle everything in a responsible way. Those are what the majority of the conversations are on set. Because we don't want to glorify any of these things.
Antonia, who plays Ginny, we have created such a safe space amongst ourselves and each other within the scenes that we're kind of able to take these bigger risks and just dive right in when the time comes to do these heavier, more nuanced scenes.
- I've read that you've said that in a way you feel like your relationship off screen mimics your relationship on screen, because you're so close. What does that do for you when you're tackling these kinds of issues together in the roles?
- I mean, we joke that we sort of dread the scenes where Ginny and Georgia are at each other's throats, because it's way more fun to shoot the scenes that are much more lighthearted and we're just getting along, like in between scenes and setups.
But, again, my hat goes off to her. I love her so much. I have so much respect for her. I didn't know what to expect. This was her first big role. And similar to Ginny and Georgia, I thought maybe I would-- I thought maybe I'd help her along the way. But, no, she's set.
- No hand holding needed.
BRIANNE HOWEY: Yeah.
- Not every mother daughter relationship is tested in quite this way, right.
- Right.
- There's part murder, there's part mystery. And yet somehow you're both so relatable. And the relationship itself is so relatable. How?
- I mean, I think for better or for worse, it's an actor's job to showcase all parts of our humanity. And Georgia has plenty of social and cultural blindspots, but it's important to talk about these things. And I think that's what connects us, and we can all relate to that. And life isn't that black and white. A lot of life is really messy, and we're living in the gray area. And it's OK to talk about these things.
GEORGIA: That strip turned pink in a rest station bathroom in Georgia, and everything had to change. I left that bathroom and I saw this group of kids, and they were so happy. They didn't have a care in the world. They wore nice clothes and they were smiling and they were loved.
- And the show is translating to people talking about these things. Your fans don't just watch. They then jump online and they discuss.
- Right.
- And one of the big points of discussion seems to be, is Georgia a good mother? What do you think about that conversation? And what's your answer?
- I mean, who are we to decide who's a good mother? I don't think there is a definition of what a good mother could possibly be. I think the beauty of Ginny and Georgia shows us that there are so many ways to mother and there are so many ways to be a mother.
- Do you feel like you root for Georgia as you're playing her?
- Yeah, absolutely. I think no matter what character or no matter what choices your character makes, I think you've got to be on their side as an actor. So 100%.
- I don't want to give anything away, but it does seem like when everything's finally going well for Georgia, it all comes crashing down. So will we see her get a happy ending?
- Look, with Georgia, where there's a will there is a way. Georgia has never disappointed me yet. So I have a feeling her wheels are turning and there's more story to tell.
- I can't tell if I'm a crazy one or if everyone else is.
- Oh, you're crazy.
- And I want to ask about the accent. There's so much southern charm to this character. Did you do anything kind of funny or unusual to prep for it? What's your secret?
- I mean, it's all in the writing for me. It's so-- Georgia's so performative and she's larger than life. You can't not lean into the accent. And I love the Southern accent because it's so musical and lyrical, and that's just who Georgia is. She has that rhythm and that cadence. And I love getting to play with it. She takes up so much space in the room.
- Can you turn it on and off?
- Somewhat, yeah. The writing helps though. It does really help, having her dialogue there.
- Do you ever come off screen and you're still talking as Georgia and you realize, oh I don't have to do that.
- No. But you know what's funny? Other characters will. Like we'll be in scenes and then they'll start to pick up a little bit of a Southern accent, especially Scott, who plays Paul, who's the mayor. He was on Hart of Dixie years ago And I actually worked on that with him very briefly a long time ago and he was the Southern one so when he and I are working together it comes up the most and it's really cute.
- What do you hope people take away from this season? And will we see a season three?
- I hope so. It's feeling very positive. But you never know, of course. I hope people-- I think one of the most beautiful parts about season two is that Ginny asks for help. I think it's a really big step forward for destigmatizing mental health, and that it's OK to ask for help.
- Brianne, it's so nice to meet you. This show has done so much, I think, not only to entertain audiences, but also to spark some really important conversations. So thank you.
- Thank you so much for having me.
- Want me to kill him?
- That's not funny.
- It's a little bit fun.
- Our thanks to Diane for bringing us that. Before we go tonight, we return now to our top story out of Memphis, Tennessee, where Tyre Nichols is just the latest Black man to be memorialized by a community. We've seen it all before, of course. People are angry.
They're calling for change, as the officers at the center of the encounter hand themselves into authorities, just one day before bodycam footage is released. The city's police chief calls the incident, "Heinous, reckless, and inhumane," but says, "we need to ensure our community is safe.
And that is our show for this hour. Be sure to stay tuned to ABC News Live for more context and analysis of the day's top stories. Thanks so much for streaming with us.
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LINSEY DAVIS: And coming up in the next hour, we're staying on top of a few things. Why former presidents and vice presidents are now being asked to take a closer look at their records. And a new identification category that could be added to the census.
Hey there. I'm Linsey Davis. Thank you so much for streaming with us. We're monitoring several developments here at ABC News at this hour. Chipotle has said that it's looking to hire 15,000 people in North America to ensure its stores are staffed up ahead of its busy spring season. Other chains are also looking for thousands of workers, Taco Bell and Starbucks among them.
The Boeing company pleaded not guilty to felony fraud charges stemming from the fatal crashes of two 737 MAX airplanes in 2018 and 2019. The Department of Justice previously struck a deal with Boeing, which promised the company immunity in future criminal proceedings. Now, families of the victims are asking for that to be revoked, and are hoping to bring manslaughter charges against Boeing and its former CEO for their role in the death of 346 passengers.
A Middle Eastern and North African category could soon be added to US federal surveys and censuses, and changes could also be made to how Hispanics are able to self-identify under preliminary recommendations released by the Biden administration.
Some advocates have been pushing for combining the race and Hispanic origin question, saying that the way race is categorized often confuses Hispanic respondents who are not sure just how to answer. Based on the 1997 standards, US residents from Middle Eastern and North African countries were actually encouraged to identify as White. Under the new proposal, there would be a separate category for people often referred to by the MENA acronym.
In Memphis, five police officers face murder charges in connection with the death of Tyre Nichols at a traffic stop earlier this month. Tonight the Memphis community is bracing for the release of reportedly graphic video of the incident. His final words were reportedly of him calling out to his mother, eerily similar to the dying words of George Floyd. Many are thinking, here we go again.
ABC'S Elwyn Lopez is on the ground for us tonight.
ELWYN LOPEZ: Tonight, five former Memphis Police officers facing murder charges in the death of Tyre Nichols.
- While each of the five individuals played a different role in the incident in question, the actions of all of them resulted in the death of Tyre Nichols, and they are all responsible.
ELWYN LOPEZ: The five former officers, charged with second degree murder, aggravated kidnapping, and assault, among other crimes.
- Under the laws of Tennessee, second degree murder is a knowing killing.
ELWYN LOPEZ: Police say Nichols was pulled over for alleged reckless driving on the night of January 7th.
WOMAN: We have running on foot.
ELWYN LOPEZ: According to the district attorney, after an initial altercation with police, pepper spray was deployed. Nichols, then fleeing. He was confronted again, resulting in serious injuries.
WOMAN: Subject fighting at this time.
ELWYN LOPEZ: Memphis Police is saying Nichols complained of having a shortness of breath, at which time an ambulance was called to the scene. The 29-year-old, critically injured, dying three days later.
The family commissioning an independent autopsy. Their attorney stating preliminary findings show Nichols suffered extensive bleeding caused by severe beating. At this time that autopsy has not been publicly disclosed, and ABC News has not seen it.
Two Memphis Fire Department personnel involved in treating Nichols were, quote, "Relieved of duty while an internal investigation is being conducted." Those five officers, all part of the Department's street crime unit known as Scorpion, fired after an internal investigation concluded they, quote, "Violated multiple department policies, including excessive use of force, duty to intervene, and duty to render aid."
- This is not just a professional failing. This is a failing of basic humanity toward another individual. This incident was heinous, reckless, and inhumane.
ELWYN LOPEZ: The Director of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation speaking today.
- Frankly, I'm shocked. I'm sickened by what I saw. I've seen the video. You will too. In a word, it's absolutely appalling.
ELWYN LOPEZ: Nichols' mother, unable to watch the full video.
ROWVAUGHN WELLS: He was less than 80 yards away when they murdered him. Yes, I said murdered.
MAN: That's right.
ROWVAUGHN WELLS: My son died on January 7th. The doctors pulled the plug on January 10th.
ELWYN LOPEZ: And tonight, attorneys for the family stating that these five officers being held criminally accountable for their deadly and brutal actions gives us hope, as we continue to push for justice for Tyre.
Attorneys for two of the former officers, Desmond Mills Jr. and Emmitt Martin, saying their clients intend to plead not guilty.
- No one out there that night intended for Tyre Nichols to die.
LINSEY DAVIS: Of course that was the outcome. Our thanks to Elwyn Lopez. We're joined now by attorney Ben Crump, who is representing the Nichols family. First, thank you so much for joining us. Let's get your response to the arrests and the charges against these five officers, and how the family is reacting to those actions tonight.
- Well, Linsey, the family's relieved that they have confirmed that these officers will face criminal accountability in a court of law for what they did to Tyre Nichols. It's still painful for his parents and his siblings and their entire family, but they are a little relieved to know that there will be criminal charges that are being brought.
- Officials are planning to release video of Tyre's violent beating tomorrow evening. I know that the family has seen that video already. You've seen that video. Can you give us just a sense of what we might see in that video?
- As I said, Linsey, it's going to remind many people of Rodney King. You know, and tragically, unlike Rodney King, Tyre doesn't survive. I mean, it's so difficult to watch the video. Because even while he's being brutalized, you still see the humanity in Tyre, that he was a good kid.
Even though the police are, I mean, saying all kind of profane things to him, he still is answering in a calm voice. He's like, "What did I do?" And, "I just want to go home." And you just kept waiting for one of those officers, Linsey, to say, OK. OK, guys. We got him. Let's just calm down. Let's just de-escalate. But they never do.
- The Shelby County DA said today that there are multiple sources of video, and that, quote, "People will be able to see the entire encounter from beginning to end." Can you describe what the sources of video are? Is this all police body cam footage?
- No. It's multiple videos. And thank god for video, because you see everything that happened. And there's audio that is reprehensible to match what we see with our eyes. And it's just tragic, because you see Tyre, I mean, he's getting assaulted and battered, and it's just troubling on so many levels that they continue to escalate. They never de-escalate. And it's just heart-wrenching at the end when, you know, he calls for his mother three times. I mean, heart-wrenching cries for his mother, and then he never says another word again.
LINSEY DAVIS: Any concerns for you about how this case has been handled to this point by the Memphis Police and the Shelby County DA's office?
- Well, the family is relieved that they terminated the officers in a swift manner. And they also are thankful that the charges were brought today. And everybody who talked about him, everybody we've met talked about him just being a gentle soul who, you know, loved to skateboard, loved photography, loved to take pictures of sunsets as often as he could. And his coworkers at FedEx said he was just an incredible person. And he was focused on being a good father for his four-year-old son.
- You, of course, Mr. Crump, have represented countless families in recent years who've lost loved ones during police encounters. Does the fact that these five officers involved in Tyre's death were all Black, does that change the dynamics of this case at all?
BEN CRUMP: What I've found, Linsey, in my almost 25 years of doing this civil rights work in America is that it is not the race of the police officer that is the determining factor of whether they're going to engage in excessive use of force. But it is the race of the citizen. And oftentimes it's Black and Brown citizens who bear the brunt of this police brutality. We don't see our White brothers and sisters, who are unarmed, encounter this type of excessive force at the hands of police.
LINSEY DAVIS: Attorney Ben Crump, representing the Nichols family. We always appreciate you talking with us. Really appreciate your time and insight.
- Thank you, Linsey.
- George Floyd, Daunte Wright, Patrick Lyoya-- Tyre Nichols is far from the only person who has died following a brutal encounter with police, calling into question just how we are policed as a country, and whether we're facing a systemic abuse of power. [CHANTING]
May 25th, 2020 was a turning point in America and perhaps globally. George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis Police officer Derek Chauvin, who pressed his knee into his neck for nine and 1/2 minutes.
- I can't breathe!
- You're talking--
- Ah!
LINSEY DAVIS: Cell phone video of the murder sparked national outrage. Protests erupted from coast to coast, in what was called a racial reckoning.
- I can't breathe!
LINSEY DAVIS: Former Officer Chauvin was convicted of murder more than two years later, capping what some hoped to be the beginning of a new age of accountability. As the streets filled with calls for justice, another movement began to grow for Breonna Taylor, a woman who was killed months earlier.
On March 13th, 2020, only minutes after midnight, authorized by a no knock warrant, Louisville officers used a battering ram to force their way into her home, seeking out her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker.
- Please come out with your hands up.
LINSEY DAVIS: Shots were fired at the scene.
- Walk straight back or I'll send this dog on you.
LINSEY DAVIS: Kenneth calls 911 for help and fires a shot, because he says he thought there was a break-in.
- Y'all was banging at the door, and she said, "Who is it?" Then y'all just started shooting!
LINSEY DAVIS: Breonna Taylor is struck by eight bullets and killed.
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Her family reached a $12 million settlement with the city of Louisville. An officer involved in the raid was later indicted on three counts of wanton endangerment for shots that entered a neighboring apartment. The officer who shot Breonna Taylor was not charged.
- How did they just get away with this? You just kick a door down and just, bang, bang, bang, bang, and get away with it!
LINSEY DAVIS: Passionate calls for justice grew, demanding change. April 11th 2021, in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, Daunte Wright was pulled over for expired registration tags by Officer Kim Potter and a trainee. The officers in the stop attempted to take Daunte into custody after determining he had a warrant out for his arrest. He resisted.
Officer Potter warns that she's about to fire her taser, but instead Wright's car is seen speeding off before crashing into another car, where he died at the scene. Potter was found guilty of manslaughter and sentenced to two years.
- I lost my son. He's never coming back. I can't accept that.
LINSEY DAVIS: Another family finds itself as the newest members of an unfortunate and growing club of mourning parents, brothers, and sisters looking to change a system that is supposed to be meant to protect them.
Just days after the start of the new year, in Los Angeles, father and English teacher Keenan Anderson died while on a trip to visit his family January 3rd. The 31-year-old was stopped by an officer when witnesses pointed to him as the cause of a nearby crash. Police say Anderson was erratic. Body camera footage shows he was tased repeatedly.
- Oh! They're trying to kill me!
- Hey, stop or I'm going to tase you.
- They're trying to George Floyd me. They're trying to kill me.
LINSEY DAVIS: He dies in a hospital more than four hours later. Officers claimed he suffered a medical emergency. His family filed a $50 million wrongful death suit against the city. The LAPD is reviewing its policies on the use of tasers. Police are waiting for a completed autopsy report.
Anderson was the cousin of Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors, whose work became a rallying cry in the days after Floyd's death. We spoke to her on Prime about how this familiar tragedy is now sewn into the fabric of her own family.
- It's exhausting to think that for a decade, many of us have been doing this work, and now it's at my own doorstep. And I feel like it's surreal still. Because I'm not just grieving, my whole family is. And we're all trying to make sense of this moment.
- Switching gears now, and now to the trial of Alex Murdaugh, a once prominent attorney now on trial for the murders of his wife and son. Murdaugh appeared distraught today as the first witness took the stand and jurors were shown body camera video. ABC'S Eva Pilgrim has the details.
EVA PILGRIM: For the first time, jurors in the trial of Alex Murdaugh saw police bodycam from the moments officers arrived on the family's property, where Murdaugh's wife Maggie and son Paul had been shot to death. That video shielded from public view. But the first officer describing the grisly scene.
- The male victim laying on the ground to my left, as well as the female victim on the ground to my right. There was a large deal of blood that had pooled around his body. The same thing for the female victim on the right.
EVA PILGRIM: Alex Murdaugh appearing distraught in the courtroom. But that officer testifying when he met Murdaugh at the crime scene that night, he wasn't crying.
- Did you ever see any tears in your interactions with Mr. Murdaugh?
- He did not appear to be crying. He was upset but I did not see any visible tears.
EVA PILGRIM: In that bodycam, Murdaugh can be heard immediately offering an explanation for the shootings, telling police that they were related to a 2019 boat crash that killed one of Paul's friends for which Paul was facing charges.
ALEX MURDAUGH: This is a long story. My son was in a boat wreck. He's been getting threats. Most of it's been benign stuff we didn't take serious.
OFFICER: OK.
ALEX MURDAUGH: You know, he's been getting, like, punched. That's what it is.
- Who brought up the boat?
- Mr. Murdaugh did.
ATTORNEY 1: And within a few minutes of your arrival, he's the one that brought up the boat incident.
- He did.
ATTORNEY 1: Is that correct? And he offered that right out of the gate as a possible explanation for what happened here. Is that right?
- Yes.
EVA PILGRIM: Murdaugh repeatedly asking about his wife and son.
ALEX MURDAUGH: Did you check them?
DANIEL GREENE: We got medical guys that are-- that's what they're going to do. OK?
ALEX MURDAUGH: What are they doing? Can they hurry?
DANIEL GREENE: They are. Yes, sir.
ALEX MURDAUGH: They aren't dead, are they?
DANIEL GREENE: Yes, sir. That's what it looks like.
EVA PILGRIM: The defense today, hammering away at the possibility police compromised evidence at the crime scene.
ATTORNEY 2: You would agree with me, one of the cardinal rules of a crime scene is keep it pristine. Don't walk over things. Try to preserve tire tracks. Get pictures of it, footprints, all those sorts of things.
EVA PILGRIM: But officers defending their investigation that night.
ATTORNEY 1: Are you aware that any evidence was contaminated in this case?
- I'm not.
ATTORNEY 1: Did you engage in everything you could to avoid contaminating evidence?
- Yes.
- Our thanks to Eva.
In New York City, a jury today handed down a guilty verdict in an ISIS inspired truck attack on Halloween five years ago. It is the deadliest terror attack in New York City since 9/11. That same jury is now considering the death penalty in the case. Our senior investigative reporter, Aaron Katersky reports.
AARON KATERSKY: On Halloween 2017, prosecutors said Sayfullo Saipov turned a bike path into his battlefield, killing eight people, six of them foreign tourists, running them down over 20 blocks with a truck on New York's West Side.
And tonight, after six hours of deliberations, a federal jury agreed, finding the Uzbek native guilty of murder and attempted murder in order to gain entry into ISIS.
MAN: This is a mass casualty situation here.
AARON KATERSKY: Prosecutors showed the jury this video of the moment the police moved in, Saipov holding two fake guns, police taking him down. They told the court, had he not crashed into that school bus, HE would have continued the rampage.
Over the 11-day trial, jurors heard emotional testimony from families of the victims. Saipov all but confessed, his lawyer conceding the deadliest terror attack in New York since 9/11 was not an accident. "He did it intentionally." But that wasn't to join ISIS. He wanted to die a martyr.
The jury finding Saipov guilty on all 28 counts. Several of them make him eligible for the death penalty.
- So the death penalty is still on the table. Aaron Katersky joins us now. So, Aaron, in order for him to get the death penalty, that decision would have to be unanimous?
- It would have to be unanimous, Linsey. And the penalty phase in this case will start here at court early next month. There have been no federal executions under President Biden. He campaigned against the death penalty, as you know. We got a statement from the White House tonight, Linsey. It says that this decision was up to the Justice Department, though President Biden, his thoughts remain with the families of the victims of this attack and the survivors. Linsey.
LINSEY DAVIS: All right. Aaron Katersky for us. Our thanks to you as always.
Back in Washington, the National Archives has reached out to all former presidents and vice presidents, asking them to recheck their personal records for any classified documents. And following the discoveries at the homes of President Biden, former President Trump, and former Vice President Pence, the FBI director was asked today if the system for accounting for classified information is broken.
ABC'S senior White House correspondent Mary Bruce has those details.
MARY BRUCE: Tonight the National Archives is asking former presidents and vice presidents to comb through their papers, and make sure they too don't have any classified documents. In a letter sent to representatives for presidents going all the way back to Ronald Reagan, the Archives asks them to ensure they didn't "inadvertently" hold on to official documents, writing, "The responsibility to comply with the Presidential Records Act does not diminish after the end of an administration."
- People need to be conscious of the rules regarding classified information and appropriate handling of them. Those rules are there for a reason.
MARY BRUCE: It comes two days after former Vice President Mike Pence revealed he recently found classified documents at his Indiana home, even though he told David in November he had none.
- Let me ask you. As we sit here in your home office in Indiana, did you take any classified documents with you from the White House?
- I did not.
MARY BRUCE: His former boss, President Trump, brought hundreds of classified documents to Mar-a-Lago and resisted handing them over to authorities, leading the FBI to get a warrant. And last week the FBI searched President Biden's Delaware home after classified material was found in his garage and former private office.
Now we have reached out to these former presidents. And the offices for President Obama and Clinton say all of their classified material was properly turned over. While tonight the office for President George W. Bush is reacting to this new request from the Archives telling us, quote, "They remain confident that no such materials are in our possession." Linsey.
- Our thank to Mary.
And still to come, researchers in Egypt uncover what could be the oldest mummies ever. We tell you just how old they are, possibly. And as we prepare for Holocaust Remembrance Day, we speak to a man helping to keep the victims' stories alive. Dov Forman tells us how he's turning his family's pain into his purpose in this week's Tik Talk.
Welcome back. We're tracking several headlines around the world. Palestinian authorities announced that they will no longer cooperate with Israeli security forces after an Israeli military raid killed several Palestinians suspected of planning terror attacks. Palestinian officials claim that at least 30 gunman and civilians have been killed by Israeli forces since the beginning of the year.
Police officers and protesters were injured in anti-government protests south of Lima. Peru state news agency said 57 people were injured when police dismantled the blockades set up by protesters. They are demanding the resignation of Boluarte, early new elections, the shutdown of Congress, and a new Constitution to replace the current one. More than 50 people have been killed as a result of the unrest.
Egypt says it's uncovered several ancient tombs, dating back at least 4,000 years. Researchers on the ground said that one of the mummies could be the oldest and most complete mummy ever found in Egypt.
We turn now to our weekly segment, Tik Talk, where we take a closer look at the story behind the sensation. Tomorrow marks International Holocaust Remembrance Day, a time to commemorate reflect and honor the six million Jewish victims of the Holocaust and millions of other victims of Nazism.
Dov Forman, the great grandson of Auschwitz survivor Lily Ebert uses his platform to educate younger generations about the genocide, sharing her story to combat anti-Semitism. Take a look.
- From this time already before, now and all the time, always happened, the bad things. But something-- something like the Holocaust never ever happened. And I hope, with God's help, never again will happen.
- Dov Forman joins us now. So special that you get to have this relationship and know your great grandmother. Dov, thanks so much for joining us. Before we dive into your content, I'd like to talk about your experience this week visiting the former concentration camp of Auschwitz. What was going through your mind as you walked past where your great grandmother arrived?
- It was incredibly difficult. Firstly, thank you so much for having me on tonight. Returning to the Auschwitz memorial site for the first time, I thought that because of all the work that I'd done with my great grandmother over the past three years, writing our book, "Lily's Promise" together, and also educating over two million followers on TikTok about my great grandmother's harrowing Holocaust testimony, I thought I would have been able to understand and comprehend.
But I arrived there, and there are two moments which stick out in my mind, which really made me realize that you can never understand. And one of those moments was when I was taken to a room. And I was shown a blueprint, a blueprint which was created by ordinary and educated men and women, scientists, doctors, and lawyers. A blueprint for the gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau. And people, ordinary people sat down to decide how best and systematically they could murder my great grandmother's family-- innocent people, for no reason other than the religion they were born into.
When my great grandmother arrived in Auschwitz-Birkenau in July, 1944, her mother, younger sister, and younger brother were ushered away from her very quickly. She never got to say goodbye. And they were murdered that day in the gas chambers.
And the second moment, which really sticks out in my mind from my trip to the Auschwitz-Birkenau memorial site last week was when we were taken to the show exhibition in block five. And it's impossible not to be haunted by that great pride of shoes there in that block.
When you hear the number six million, it's impossible to understand. But when you see these shoes, these individual pieces of history, it really makes you think and realize that perhaps one of these people was one of those members of my great grandmother's family who were murdered.
- Recounting her experience it must be so excruciating. What have you learned through this process that a textbook wouldn't be able to teach you?
- I think as a young person I'm in a unique position that I know what it's like to learn about the Holocaust through a textbook in school. I've only just finished school last year. And so I know how hard it is to comprehend and understand.
When you go to a place like Auschwitz, when you hear my great grandmother's story, a singular testimony, someone who was there, an eyewitness, that's when you can try to understand and begin to comprehend. Because you realize that people just like you, people who lived in a secure community, people who, like me, were secure with their Judaism, and suddenly, for no reason other than that fact that they were Jewish, were taken away from their homes and murdered. And I think that's something which I've realized and learned through my great grandmother, which you can't through the textbooks. It's that human side of the Holocaust.
But what I've also learned through my great grandmother's testimony and through the testimony of countless other survivors is about how through the darkest of times you can have hope for a better future.
- You're transforming your great grandmother's pain into purpose. What's one thing that you'll always remember about her?
- I could sit here all day, telling you things that I've learned from my great grandmother and the incredibly important messages which I'll always remember. And I think one of those, as I mentioned earlier, is to have hope. And no matter how hard the times get, to realize that there is light at the tunnel.
But on the other side, another one is, again, to realize your role in standing up to hatred, racism, and injustice in this world. Because if not, we risk something like the Holocaust perhaps being repeated again in the future.
- Before we leave, Lily has a message for us all. Let's listen.
- It is so important that the world should not forget when we are not tolerant to each other, when we think somebody else is more important. It is a big mistake, because we are all the same.
- Big mistake. We're all the same. Dov, your reaction to her words?
- I think it's so incredibly important. Auschwitz and Auschwitz-Birkenau, the place and memorial sites where I visited last week where my great grandmother, at 20-years-old was taken, where her mother, younger sister, and younger brother were murdered is not a place which fell from the sky. Auschwitz and the Holocaust came and was born from an ideology, a basic ideology which seeped into the minds of ordinary people, which is that I am superior and someone else is inferior.
And this ideology is still around today. And if we don't realize that there is more in common than that which divides us, we risk something like the Holocaust being repeated. And it's up to us to seek that common humanity and to realize that it doesn't matter if someone is different to you. As my great grandmother always says, it doesn't matter if someone belongs to a different religion or race or nationality. They are all the same. We are all human down to our core.
LINSEY DAVIS: One human race. Dov, we thank you so much for joining us. And thank you for sharing her powerful stories from your great grandmother. You can learn more about the Holocaust and the Jewish community on his Tik-Tok at Lilly Ebert. Thank you, Dov.
- Thank you very much.
- And still to come, an exclusive interview with the surgeons who pulled off an amazing feat. How they managed to separate three-month-old conjoined twins.
Now to the story of three-month-old conjoined twins, who were successfully separated after an 11-hour surgery at a Texas hospital. ABC'S Mireya Villarreal has an exclusive interview with the lead surgeons who performed this amazing feat.
MIREYA VILLARREAL: Three-month-old sisters Amy Lynn and Jamie Lynn are one step closer to heading home.
MAN: I have to feel like this was a tough time. So--
- Yeah. That's why I wore the Superman shirt.
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MIREYA VILLARREAL: Last year, James Finley and Amanda Arciniega were surprised to find out they were pregnant with twins.
JAMES FINLEY: She's looking, and she's all, "Oh, there's the baby's head." And I was like, well if that's the baby's head, I was like, what's that? She's like, that's the other baby's head.
- And we were like--
- I was like, what?
MIREYA VILLARREAL: But at that same doctor's appointment, they learned their daughters were conjoined.
- On the ride home we were, like, quiet. And it was kind of sad. We were like thinking, why us?
MIREYA VILLARREAL: Amy Lynn and Jamie Lynn are omphalopagus twins, joined at the abdomen and sharing a liver. Before the babies were born, the family started working closely with a team of specialists at Cook Children's Medical Center to plan for their safe delivery and eventual separation.
Was there something that really stuck out for you?
- Every conjoined twin has a unique anatomy. They're all different, no matter how you kind of go through it. They're going to give you some surprises here and there. And so-- and their personalities. They're kind of-- we got one little feisty one and one that's much more reserved.
MIREYA VILLARREAL: More than 50 doctors, nurses, and anesthesiologists coming together to help safely separate the babies. While one baby surgical procedure went seamlessly, the other's wound has not yet closed. But doctors say both will recover.
MAN 1: All right, everyone. We're separated.
MAN 2: Time. Mark the time.
MIREYA VILLARREAL: Nearly 12 hours after surgery, Amy Lynn and Jamie Lynn were rolled out of the operating room and are now in their own beds.
- You have two babies on two separate beds.
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- So excited for Amy Lynn and Jamie Lynn and their new lives, apart but together.
Thanks so much for watching. That's our show for tonight. Stay tuned to ABC News Live for more context and analysis of the day's top stories. I'm Linsey Davis. Have a great night.
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