ABC News Live: Pence says he’s open to testifying before Jan. 6 committee

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Transcript for ABC News Live: Pence says he’s open to testifying before Jan. 6 committee
GOOD AT WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON, I'M CANNOT MOUNTAIN. HERE ARE SOME TOP HEADLINES. JULY RETAIL SALES ARE COMING AND FLAT COMPARED TO LAST MONTH, IN LINE WITH ANALYSTS EXPECTATIONS. THE NUMBERS SHOW CONSUMERS ARE SPENDING LESS THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN RECENT MONTHS. RETAIL AND FOODS SALES ROSE 0.7%. SPENDING ON GAS DROP. FEDERAL PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK HAVE SHUT DOWN WHAT THEY SAY WAS A MAFIA GAMBLING OPERATION THAT WAS POSING AS A SHOE REPAIR SHOP. NINE PEOPLE ARE NOW CHARGED WITH RACKETEERING AND ILLEGAL GAMBLING. A COUNTY POLICE DETECTIVE WAS ALSO CHARGED OBSTRUCTING A GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION IN LYING TO THE FBI. THE MONEY YOU WILL SPEND IF ONLY YOU TRY. $19 MILLION AND THE ESTATE YOU CAN BUY. DR. SEUSS'S MILLION DOLLAR ESTATE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IS ON THE MARKET FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 75 YEARS. WE DO BEGIN WITH NEW PROSECUTORS SAY HE IS THE TARGET OF A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO POTENTIALLY ILLEGAL ATTEMPTS TO OVERTURN THE RESULTS OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN GEORGIA FOR TRUMP. FOR MORE, LET'S BRING IN ABC NEWS SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER AARON KATERSKY ALONG WITH JESS WROTE BINS, FORMER CHIEF MINORITY COUNSEL FOR THE U.S. SENATE PERMIT CUB SUBCOMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATIONS. AARON, WE KNOW GIULIANI IS THE TARGET OF THE GEORGIA INVESTIGATION ALONG WITH MORE THAN A DOZEN FAKE ELECTORS. WHAT MORE ARE WE LEARNING ABOUT THE ROLE IN THE PROBE? >> RUDY GIULIANI WAS ONE OF THE MOST OUTSPOKEN ALLIES OF FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, MIMICKING THE FORMER PRESIDENTS TROT FALSE CLAIMS OF A STOLEN ELECTION. HE WENT AROUND TO A NUMBER OF BATTLEGROUND STATES. HE DID GO TO GEORGIA, EVEN SPOKE TO BLURT GEORGIA LAWMAKERS AND TRY TO CONVINCE THEM THAT THE VOTE THEY STAGE WAS SOMEHOW FRAUDULENT. THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE REPEATEDLY ASKED GIULIANI FOR EVIDENCE OF THAT FRAUD. NONE EVER MATERIALIZED. NOW, HE IS A TARGET OF AN INVESTIGATION THAT'S LOOKING INTO WHETHER MEMBERS OF THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, TRUMP'S ALLIES, KNOWINGLY SOLICITED FRAUD. THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN FULTON COUNTY AND METRO ATLANTA HAVE ALSO SAID SHE'S CONSIDERING'S CONSPIRACY OR RACKETEERING CHARGES. GIULIANI IS ONE OF MORE THAN A DOZEN PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW WHO ARE TARGETS OF THE INVESTIGATION AT THIS POINT. THERE ARE 16 FAKE ELECTORS THAT SOME HAD HOPED TO SENT TO WASHINGTON THAT HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD THEIR TARGETS OF THE SAME INVESTIGATION. >> JEFF ROBINS, HUMAN BEINGS HAVE SHORT MEMORIES. WE DO REMEMBER RIGHT AFTER THE NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION, GIULIANI WAS VERY OUTSPOKEN. AND MAKING FALSE CLAIMS WITH THE ELECTION RESULTS. EVEN ACCUSING TWO POLL WORKERS A BALLOT FLOOD. WHAT DO YOU THINK HIS LEGAL TEAM IS UP AGAINST AS THE INTENT -- >> KENNETH, I THINK AT THIS POINT, RUDY GIULIANI IS READY FOR INDUCTION INTO THE HOT MESS HALL OF FAME. HE IS BEING BUFFERED BY TARGET LETTERS AND POTENTIAL CHARGES ALL OVER THE PLACE. WITH RESPECT TO ATLANTA, OF COURSE, EXACTLY AS YOU SAY, HE WENT TO ATLANTA AT LEAST TWICE AND MADE FALSE STATEMENTS ABOUT THE ELECTION. THE GRAND JURY IS GOING TO WANT TO KNOW WHO HE SPOKE TO, WHAT HE SAID TO THEM, WHAT EFFORTS THEY MADE TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION RESULTS THERE BOTH IN PHONE CALLS AND COMMUNICATIONS WITH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND OTHERS THAT WANT TO KNOW WHAT HIS CONVERSATIONS WERE LIKE WITH THE PRESIDENT. PREPARATORY TO THAT FAMOUS PHONE CALL IN WHICH HE SAID, FELLAS, JUST GET ME 11,870 VOTES, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW ABOUT HIS INSIGHT INTO MEETINGS. PREPARATIONS WERE MADE FOR THAT PHONE CALL. MY GUESS IS, HE IS NOT GOING TO SAY A HECK OF A LOT. MY GUESS IS HE IS GOING TO INVOKE THE FIFTH AMENDMENT. HE'S GOING TO INVOKE THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE, AND STIFF ARM THE GRAND JURY. I SAY STIFF ARM, OF COURSE, THOSE ARE PRIVILEGES THAT HE IS ENTITLED TO INVOKE IN DECLINING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> WE KNOW ATLANTA HAS COCA-COLA, MLK, YOU CAN GO ON, AND NOW THEY HAVE GOT HOT MESS HALL OF FAME. JEFF, THANK YOU FOR THAT ONE. LET'S SHIFT NOW FROM GIULIANI INTO THE FBI SEARCH OF MAR-A-LAGO. FORMER VICE PRESIDENT PENCE TODAY CONDEMNING THREATS AGAINST THE FBI. LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS ARE FOLLOWING THE RATE. HE ALSO CALLED AN ATTORNEY GENERAL MERRICK GARLAND TO RELEASE MORE INFORMATION. TAKE A LISTEN. >> THAT ATTACKS ON THE FBI MUST OP. CALLS TO DEFUND THE FBI ARE JUST AS WRONG AS CALLS TO DEFUND THE POLICE. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, WE NEED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT HAPPENED. WE NEED TO LET THE FACTS PLAY OUT. I WILL CONTINUE TO CALL ON THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND MAKE THAT INFOINTERNET CATCH-UP. JEFF, LET ME TURN TO YOU. LET ME POSE THAT QUESTION TO YOU. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF PENCE'S REMARKS? ESPECIALLY KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE FIGHT AND THE ONGOING FIGHT ABOUT THE AFFIDAVIT. >> GOOD FOR HIM FOR MAKING THE STATEMENTS THAT HE MADE AT THE BEGINNING ABOUT CALLING FOR A STOP ON THE ASSAULTS OF THE FBI AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. ANYBODY WHO'S EVER HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT KNOWS, THE FBI, THE WOMEN IN THE MAN WHO SERVE IN THE FBI AND OTHER AGENCIES, ARE THEY ARE INCREDIBLY HEROIC. WE KNOW OF SO MUCH TO THEM. WITH RESPECT TO HIS CALL FOR RELEASE OF THE AFFIDAVIT, THAT, I CANNOT AGREE. WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS RIGHT TO BELIEVE THAT RELEASE OF THAT AFFIDAVIT WILL JEOPARDIZE THE INVESTIGATION. IT WILL DISCLOSE POTENTIALLY DISCLOSE SOURCES OF INFORMATION. IT WILL IMPEDE AND JEOPARDIZE THE INVESTIGATION. THAT IS WHY THEY DON'T WANT THE AFFIDAVIT DISCLOSED. THAT IS ALSO WHY THE TRUMP PEOPLE WANT IT DISCLOSED. THEY THINK IT WILL IMPEDE THE INVESTIGATION AMONG OTHER THINGS BY EXPOSING SOURCES TO POTENTIAL RETALIATION OR TO THE FEAR OF RETALIATION. IT WILL CAUSE THEM TO STOP COOPERATING. SO, EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT BELIEVES THAT THE RELEASE OF THE AFFIDAVIT WILL JEOPARDIZE THE INVESTIGATION. THE TRUMP PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THE DISCLOSURE OF THE AFFIDAVIT WILL JEOPARDIZE THE INVESTIGATION. THAT IS WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE DOES NOT WANT TO HAPPEN. >> DOES TRUMP BELIEVE IT WILL -- WET DOES WHAT IS TRUMP DOING HERE BY CALLING FOR THE RELEASE OF THE AFFIDAVIT? ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT ACTIONS THOUGH. >> YEAH, OF COURSE, HE KNOWS THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WON'T DO IT. THEREFORE, HE HOPES TO RAISE SUSPICIONS AMONG THE BASE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING TO VARIOUS AND CONSPIRATORIAL ABOUT THIS INVESTIGATION WHEN THERE IS NOTHING NEFARIOUS OR CONSPIRATORIAL ABOUT IT AT ALL. HE KNOWS THAT THEY WON'T DO IT. HE KNOWS THAT IF BY SOME MIRACLE THEY WERE FORCED INTO DOING IT, THAT WOULD PLACE SOURCES OF INFORMATION. THE IDENTITIES OF THOSE WHO ARE COOPERATING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OUT IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE. WHERE THEY WOULD, NO DOUBT, -- >> JEFF ROBINS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. A BIG THANKS TO ERIN KATERSKY. TO THOSE CRITICAL ELECTIONS OVERNIGHT IN WYOMING IN ALASKA. IN WYOMING, CONGRESSWOMAN CHENEY HAS CONCEDED AFTER LOSING HER PRIMARY TO TRUMP BACKED CHALLENGER HARRIET HAGEMAN. CHENEY IS ALREADY PLANNING HERTS MORE FROM WYOMING. >> LIZ CHENEY DID DONALD TRUMP STILL REFUSES TO DO. SHE CONCEDED SHE LOST. >> TONIGHT, HARRIET HAGEMAN HAS RECEIVED THE MOST VOTES IN THIS PRIMARY. SHE WON. I CALLED HER TO CONCEDE THE RACE. THIS PRIMARY ELECTION IS OVER. NOW THE REAL WORK BEGINS. CHENEY'S LANDSLIDE LOSS WAS NO SURPRISE. SHE KNEW SHE'D PAY A PRICE FOR VOTING TO IMPEACH DONALD TRUMP AND AND SERVING AS THE VICE CHAIR OF THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE. AFTER ALL, WYOMING IS THE STATE TRUMP WON BY THE LARGEST MARGIN. >> NO HOUSE SEAT, NO OFFICE IN THIS LAND IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PRINCIPLES WE ARE ALL SWORN TO PROTECT. I WELL UNDERSTOOD THE POTENTIAL POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES OF ABIDING BY MY DUTY. >> THAT DUTY, CHENEY SAID, IT IS STANDING UP TO A POLITICAL FORCE SHE GRAVELY WARNED COULD PROVOKE EVEN MORE VIOLENCE THAN WHAT WE SAW ON JANUARY 6TH. >> OUR NATION IS BARRELING ONCE AGAIN TOWARDS CRISIS, LAWLESSNESS, AND VIOLENCE. NO AMERICAN SHOULD SUPPORT ELECTION DENIERS FOR ANY POSITION OF GENUINE RESPONSIBILITY WHERE THEIR REFUSAL TO FOLLOW THE RULE OF LAW WILL CORRUPT OUR FUTURE. >> THE VICTOR, HARRIET HAGEMAN, WHO BECAME THE FRONT RUNNER THE MINUTE DONALD TRUMP ENDORSED HER. SHE ONCE CRITICIZED TRUMP BUT NOW REPEATS HIS LIE, THE 2020 ELECTION WAS STOLEN. WHEN SHE WON, SHE THANKED HIM. >> WE WERE ALL VERY GRATEFUL TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> WHAT WILL CHENEY DO NEXT? WILL SHE RUN FOR PRESIDENT? SHE DID NOT SAY. SHE MADE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR ON HER OVERALL GOAL. >> I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO ENSURE DONALD TRUMP IS NEVER AGAIN ANYWHERE NEAR THE OVAL OFFICE. >> AS FOR THIS CHINESE IMMEDIATE FUTURE, SHE REMAINS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS FOR ANOTHER FOUR MONTHS. SHE WILL CONTINUE HER WORK ON THE JANUARY SIX COMMITTEE WHICH WAS ENTIRELY UNAFFECTED BY THE RESULT HERE IN WYOMING. KENNETH? >> JOHN CARL, THANK YOU SO MUCH THERE IN MONTREAL MING. ABC'S ZOHREEN SHAH, LET'S BRING HER IN AND WASHINGTON. ZOHREEN, WHAT IS NEXT FOR THE CONGRESSWOMAN AFTER THIS LOSS? >> YOU HEARD CHENEY IN JOINING CARLES PIECE SAY THE WORDS. I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO ENSURE THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL NEVER COME CLOSE TO THE OVAL OFFICE AGAIN. HER TEAM SAYS SHE IS LAUNCHING AN ANTI TRUMP GROUPS TO OPPOSE THE 2024 RUN. SHE'S GOING TO DO IN THE COMING WEEKS. WE WANT TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON, BUT SHE SAYS, IS AN ONGOING THREAT TO THE REPUBLIC. AS FOR HERSELF, SHE SAYS SHE IS THINKING OUT ABOUT A POTENTIAL RUN TO. THE BIG QUESTION, COULD SHE WIN? YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE RESULTS LAST NIGHT. 66 TO 29. SHE LOST BY A LANDSLIDE. EXPERTS SAY, PROBABLY NOT. SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO ENOUGH DAMAGE TO DONALD TRUMP IF HE IN FACT RUNS AS WELL. >> NO SURPRISES ON CHENEY'S LOSS, UNLIKE OUR FRIEND JOHN CARL WARDROBE THIS WEEK. WHICH, I LOVED BY THE WAY. >> HE LOOKS GREAT. >> HE'S COMING HOME TO WASHINGTON. I'M AFRAID I'M NOT GOING TO SEE THAT PLAID ANYMORE. WE DO KNOW SOMETHING THAT CONTRIBUTE TO CHENEY'S LOSS, THE FACT THAT SHE'S THE VICE CHAIR OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING THE ATTACK ON THE CAPITOL. WHAT COULD HER LOSS MEAN FOR THE INVESTIGATION? >> WE KNOW THAT CONTRIBUTED IN A VERY BIG WAY. SHE IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE ON THE JERRY SIX COMMITTEE. YOU HEARD JONATHAN CARL. SHE WOULD BE STILL IN CONGRESS FOR THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS. THAT LOSS LAST NIGHT DOES NOT REALLY AFFECT HER INVOLVEMENT IN THIS COMMITTEE VERY MUCH. SHE STILL WANTS TO FIGHT TO KEEP DONALD TRUMP, AS SHE SAYS, AS FAR AWAY IN THE OVAL OFFICE AS SHE CAN. >> HARRIET HAGEMAN WAS A VOCAL SUPPORTER OF CHENEY BEFORE SHE DECIDE TO RUN AGAINST HER. SHE VOTED FOR HER, SHE BACK TURNED PREVIOUS RACES, SHE ALSO ECHO DONALD TRUMP LIES ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT HER AND TRUMP'S IMPACT ON THE RACE? >> IT TELLS YOU SO MUCH ABOUT THIS ERA. SHE USED TO CALL TRUMP THE WEAKEST CANDIDATE. SHE'S TO CALL HIM SOMEONE WHO IS RACIST AND XENOPHOBIC. THIS IS JUST BACK IN 2016. BACK THEN, SHE CAMPAIGNED FOR LIZ CHENEY. HER TUNE HAS REALLY CHANGED. SHE NOW SAYS THE LAST ELECTION WAS ABSOLUTELY RAKED. IT GOES TO SHOW, TRUMP'S COMMAND ON THE PARTY, THE FACT HE IS THE DE FACTO LEADER OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY RIGHT NOW. >> A LOT OF POLITICIANS DOING OH WINDS FROM COMMENTS THEY MADE YEARS AGO. AND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING TODAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO ALASKA. WE KNOW THEY HELD PRIMARIES AS WELL YESTERDAY. UNLIKE IN WYOMING, LISA MURKOWSKI, WHO VOTED TO CONVICT TRUMP IN A SECOND IMPEACHMENT TRIAL SURVIVED HER PRIMARY. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE GENERAL ELECTION. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT SENATOR MURKOWSKI'S FUTURE IN ALASKA? >> IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT ALASKA. THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT VOTING SYSTEM THERE, THEY HAVE THIS RANK CHOICE VOTING SYSTEM. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT REALLY HELPED MURKOWSKI SURVIVE THIS POTENTIAL RACE. IN HER RACE, I APOLOGIZE, THAT IS A SYSTEM WHERE THE TOP FOUR, REGARDLESS OF THE PARTY, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT RACE. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, SHE HAS 44% OF THE VOTE COMPARED TO TSHIBAKA, WHO HAS 40% OF THE VOTE. THEY ARE SEPARATED BY JUST 5000 VOTES. MURKOWSKI, A COAST, SHE CAN'T VOTED TO CONVICT DONALD TRUMP. JUST A CHENEY DID. THIS SYSTEM MAY HAVE SAVED HER, THIS NEW SYSTEM IN ALASKA, TO MOVE ON. WE'LL SEE IF SHE ACTUALLY LAST IN THAT NOVEMBER ELECTION. >> SARAH PALIN IS NOT A FAN OF THAT RANKED VOTING SYSTEM. >> YEAH, THE RANK VOTING SYSTEM -- THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN ALASKA. THE 2008 IS CALLING, SARAH PALIN IS BACK IN THE ELECTION CYCLE. SHE DID NOT WIN THE RACE SO FAR, I SHOULD SAY, AT LEAST, IT'S A COMPLICATED SYSTEM. SHE HAS SAID IT HERSELF. RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE. PELTOLA, THE DEMOCRAT THE RAYS, IS LEADING BY 38%. SHE HAS 32%. THE NEXT PERSON, THE REPUBLICAN, HAS 29%. THERE IS A RANKED CHOICE VOTING SYSTEM IN ALASKA. BASICALLY, WHAT THAT MEANS, THE PERSON WITH THE LEAST NUMBER OF VOTES, THEY ARE OUT COMPLETELY. AND THEN YOU TAKE ALL THOSE BALLOTS, YOU TAKE THE SECOND CHOICE THAT PEOPLE VOTED FOR ON THOSE BALLOTS AND THEN YOU RE-DISTRIBUTE IT. IN THEORY, SARAH PALIN COULD ACTUALLY COME UP ON TOP. WE WILL HAVE TO SEE IF THOSE RESULTS SHOULD BE IN BY THE END THE MONTH. >> CANDIDATES ARE RANKED ONE, TWO, THREE. IF SOMEONE DOES NOT GET 50%, YEAH, WHAT'S COMPLICATED BUT? THAT >> SO EASY, RIGHT? [LAUGHS] >> SERENA, THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. COMING UP, MONKEYPOX IN YOUR PETS. SHOULD YOU BE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR FURRY FAMILY MEMBER? WE ARE SPEAKING WITH A DOCTOR NEXT. EEK. THAT IS A DECREASE, IT IS STILL A LOT. KENNETH? >> TREVOR AULT WITH THE LATEST ON COVID. NOW FOR MORE ON THE MONKEYPOX AND YOUR ANIMALS. LET'S BRING IN ABC NEWS CONTRIBUTOR AND DERMATOLOGIST DOCTOR MARK ABDULLAH. DOCTOR, GOOD TO SEE YOU. THE CDC CONFIRMING AT LEAST 12,000 CASES OF MONKEYPOX. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE GOVERNMENT ACTION TO LIMIT THE SPREADING? >> WELL, WE ARE DOING A LOT TO TRY TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT IF THEY ARE AT HIGH RISK, TO GET VACCINATED. THE PROBLEM WITH THE RESPONSE IS THAT WE HAVE SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUES. WE HAVE A DEMAND FOR VACCINES. A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT THE VACCINE, UNFORTUNATELY, THE SUPPLY DOES NOT ALWAYS MATCH. >> THE CDC RECOMMENDS A NUMBER WAYS TO REDUCE EXPOSURE, INCLUDING LIMITING THE NUMBER OF SEXUAL PARTNERS AND EXPOSURE TO INTIMATE SPACES. WHAT ARE SOME OTHER WAYS? >> ONE IS KNOWING THE RISK FACTORS, KNOWING IF YOU'RE IN A HIGH-RISK CATEGORY. RIGHT NOW, THAT IS MEN WHO HAVE SEX WITH MEN. AND THEIR SEXUAL NETWORKS. ALSO, IT IS DIRECT SKIN TO SKIN CONTACT. IF YOU ARE IN A SITUATION, WHERE YOU THINK WE CAN BE EXPOSED, REALIZING THAT THAT'S THE MAIN WAY THAT YOU GET TRANSMISSION, THAT IS THE MOST RISKY WAY. YOU COULD ALSO CATCH IT FROM VIRUS ON PARTICLES, LINENS, CLOTHING. ALSO, FROM DIRECT CONTACT THROUGH RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS. THE MAIN THING THAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT IS DIRECT SKIN TO SKIN CONTACT AS BEING THE HIGHEST RISK CATEGORY. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR FURRY FAMILY MEMBERS. THE CDC IS WARNING ANYONE WITH MONKEYPOX TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS AROUND THEIR PET AFTER A CASE WAS REPORTED IN FRANCE THAT SHOWS IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THE VIRUS TO SPREAD BETWEEN HUMANS AND HOUSEHOLD ANIMALS. WHAT'S SYMPTOMS SHOULD BE LOOKING OUT FOR? >> YEAH, I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A DISEASE WHERE PEOPLE CAN INFECT DOGS. DOGS CAN INFECT PEOPLE. WE DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A SUSTAINED WAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TRANSMISSION. OUR DOGS AND CATS A VECTOR? WE SAW THAT IN EUROPE, IT IS TO PEOPLE WHO HAD A DOG, BOTH HAD MONKEYPOX, 12 DAYS LATER, THEIR DOG GOTTMAN KEEP OX. THE DOG HAD A RASH THAT WE CAN SOMETIMES SEE SIMILAR RASHES AND PEOPLE. IT HAD BUMPS ON THE ABDOMEN, SORES IN THE GENERAL AREA. DOGS CAN FEEL UNWELL JUST LIKE WE CAN. LETHARGY, THE DOG DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY CATCH. THE DOG HAS A RUNNY NOSE. THE DOG HAS A COUGH. HASN'T HAD A COUGH BEFORE. THOSE ARE ALL SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS THAT YOUR DOG, IF EXPOSED, HAVE MONKEYPOX. >> ALL RIGHT, PEOPLE SHOULD BE ON THE LOOK OUT THERE. I'M ASSUMING IT'S A, CALL THE VETS IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS. >> CALL YOUR VET, NOT YOUR DERMATOLOGIST, YES, IF YOU THINK YOUR PET HAS MONKEYPOX -- >> I GOT YOU. DOCTOR, BEFORE WE GO, WHEN ADVICE YOU HAVE TO THOSE GOING THROUGH MONKEYPOX? >> THE FIRST THING, NOT PANIC. THIS IS A DISEASE THAT WE ARE SEEING SPREADING. THANKFULLY, MOST OF THE TIME, IT IS NOT A VERY LIFE-THREATENING OR SERIOUS DISEASE. IT IS PAINFUL. IT IS UNCOMFORTABLE. YOU CAN FEEL UNWELL BEGINNING AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE A RASH THAT COULD BE PAINFUL AND STORES THAT CAN LAST FOR 2 TO 4 WEEKS. IF YOU TREAT YOUR SOARS WELL AND DO GOOD WOUND CARE AND ARE GETTING THE RIGHT CARE, HOPEFULLY YOUR PORES WILL BE MINE MILD. IF YOU PUT BEHIND YOU. >> DOCTOR, AS YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS ALL STARTED, WHEN IT ALL CAME TO LIGHT TO THE PUBLIC, THERE APPEAR TO BE SOME STIGMA THAT WAS RELATED TO THE LGBTQ+ COMMUNITY. IS THAT THERE? IS THERE MORE EDUCATION OUT THERE? >> YOU KNOW, I THINK THE STIGMA IS STILL THERE. WE AS COMMUNICATORS IN PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS NEED TO EMPHASIZE THAT, YES, WHILE IT IS RIGHT NOW HAPPENING IN A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, MORE OFTEN THAN ANY OTHER COMMUNITY AT THIS TIME, MONKEYPOX IS A DISEASE THAT ANYONE CAN GET. SO, ANYONE IS SUSCEPTIBLE. IF YOU ARE IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS MONKEYPOX, REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION, YOU CAN HAVE ABOUT WITH MONKEYPOX. IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE. >> DOCTOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR EXPERTISE, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING. >> COMING UP, NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE CASE AGAINST SUBURBAN COUPLE ACCUSED OF TRYING TO SELL SECRETS ABOUT U.S. NUCLEAR SUBMARINE. WHY THE JUDGE IS CALLING FOR HARSHER SENTENCES. THAT IS NEXT. CALM. THERE IS A NIGHT, ABC. WELCOME BACK, TODAY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SENTENCE EXHIBIT FOR A MARYLAND COUPLE ACCUSED OF TRYING TO SELL NUCLEAR SECRETS TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY. NOW A JUDGE HAS REJECTED THEIR PLEA DEAL, SAYING THE PROPOSED PUNISHMENT DOES NOT FIT THE CLIMB. >> A FEDERAL JUDGE SAYING NO TO A PLEA AGREEMENT FOR FORMER NAVY NUCLEAR ENGINEER JONATHAN TOBY AND HIS WIFE DIANA. THE COUPLE LIVING A SEEMINGLY NORMAL LIFE IN THIS HOUSE OUTSIDE MARYLAND WITH THEIR TWO CHILDREN BEFORE THEIR ARRESTS LAST YEAR. ACCUSED OF ATTEMPTING TO SELL SECRETS OF NUCLEAR SUBMARINES TO A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT. SOURCES SAY, THAT COUNTRY, BRAZIL. >> THE U.S. GOT INCREDIBLY LUCKY HERE. IF THIS HAD BEEN RUSSIA, CHINA, THEY WOULD'VE GLADLY TAKE IN THIS INFORMATION AND GAINED A DECADES AND SAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON NUCLEAR SUBMARINE TECHNOLOGY. >> THE TOBIAS PLEADING GUILTY EARLY THIS YEAR TO ONE COUNT OF CONSPIRING TO COMMUNICATE RESTRICTED DATA. JONATHAN TOBY AGREED TO SPEND 12 TO 17 YEARS IN PRISON. HIS WIFE, THREE YEARS. THE JUDGE CALLING THE PROPOSED SENTENCES STRIKINGLY DEFICIENT. SAYING THEY FAILED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE GRAVE HARM THE TOBIAS CAUSED. PROSECUTORS SAY THE TOEBBE SPY GAMES INCLUDED YEARS OF SMUGGLING CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS PASS ACUITY, COMMUNICATING WITH AN UNDERCOVER FBI AGENT BELIEVED TO BE A FOREIGN OFFICIAL, MAKING SEVERAL SECRET DROPS, EVEN PUTTING AN SD CARD OF RESTRICTED DATA IN A PEANUT BUTTER SANDWICH. THE FBI ALLEGING AN EXCHANGE, THE COUPLE ACCEPTED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CRYPTOCURRENCY. >> THE U.S. SPENT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER DECADES TO BUILD SAFE AND RELIABLE NUCLEAR REACTORS FOR THE U.S. NAVY SUBMARINES. THIS COUPLE WAS READY TO BETRAY THEIR COUNTRY JUST FOR THE CASH. >> THE TOEBBE'S WITHDREW THEIR GUILTY PLEAS AFTER THE JUDGE THROUGHOUT THE POLICE. THEIR DEFENSE ATTORNEY SAID THAT THE SENTENCES WERE NOT A SLAP ON THE REST. THE JUDGE SET TRIAL FOR JANUARY TO GET PROSECUTORS AND OFFENSE TIME TO PREPARE ON NEGOTIATING A NUCLEAR AGREEMENT. THAT IS ALL FOR US OF THIS HALF HOUR, AND KENNETH MOTEN, THANKS FOR JOINING US, REMEMBER, ABC NEWS LIVE IS HERE FOR YOU ALL DAY WITH THE LATEST NEWS, CONTEXT, AND ANALYSIS. REMEMBER, ABC NEWS LIVE IS AVAILABLE ON ALL OF YOUR STREAMING DEVICES, PLUS THE ABC NEWS APP AND ON ABCNEWS.COM. THE NEWS CONTINUES RIGHT AFTER THIS.

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