ABC News Live: Giuliani testifies as Trump investigation heats up

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Transcript for ABC News Live: Giuliani testifies as Trump investigation heats up
KENNETH MOTEN. HERE ARE SOME TOP HEADLINES. JULY RETAIL SALES ARE COMING IN COMPARED TO LAST MONTH AND ALIGNED WITH ANALYSTS EXPECTATIONS. THE NUMBERS SHOW CONSUMERS ARE SPENDING LESS THAN THEY HAVE IN RECENT MONTHS. RETAIL AND FOOD SALES ROSE 0.7%. SPENDING ON GAS DROPPED. FEDERAL PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK HAVE SHUT DOWN WHAT THEY SAY WAS A MAFIA GAMBLING OPERATION THAT WAS POSING AS A SHOE REPAIR SHOP. NINE PEOPLE ARE NOW CHARGED WITH RACKETEERING AND ILLEGAL GAMBLING. A COUNTY POLICE DETECTIVE WAS ALSO CHARGED OBSTRUCTING A GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION IN LINE TO THE FBI. THE MONEY YOU WILL SPEND IF ONLY YOU TRY. $19 MILLION AND THE ESTATE YOU CAN BUY. DR. SEUSS'S MILLION DOLLAR ESTATE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IS ON THE MARKET FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 75 YEARS. WE DO BEGIN WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE INVESTIGATION SURROUNDING FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND PEOPLE IN HIS ORBIT. TRUMP'S FORMER ATTORNEY RUDY GIULIANI ARRIVED AT COURT AND ATLANTA TODAY TO TESTIFY BEFORE A GRAND JURY IN GEORGIA'S INVESTIGATION INTO EFFORTS TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION. WE WILL HAVE MUCH MORE ON THAT IN A MOMENT. IN THE MEANTIME, A JUDGE IS EXPECTED TO HEAR ARGUMENTS TOMORROW ON WHETHER TO UNSEAL THE AFFIDAVIT THAT PRECEDED THE SURGE OF TRUMP'S MAR-A-LAGO ESTATE. THE FORMER PRESIDENT CALLING FOR THEIR RELEASE. ARGUING THE RELEASED WOULD COMPROMISE THE INVESTIGATION. SENIOR NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT TERRY MORAN HAS THE LATEST. >> KENNETH, ALL EYES WILL BE ON THE COURTROOM AND WEST PALM BEACH FLORIDA ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON AT 1 PM. MAGISTRATE REINHARDT, HE'S THE SAME JUDGE THAT APPROVED THE SEARCH WARRANT FOR FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S MAR-A-LAGO HOME. HE IS GOING TO BE HOLDING A HEARING ON WHETHER THE SWORN AFFIDAVIT THAT FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS USED TO JUDGED BY THAT CHURCH SHOULD BE UNSEALED. TRUMP HIMSELF ONCE THAT AFFIDAVIT MADE PUBLIC. HE IS JOINED BY TOP REPUBLICANS AND A GROUP OF MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING ABC NEWS HAS ALSO ASKED THE JUDGE TO MAKE IT PUBLIC. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT STRONGLY OPPOSES UNSEALING THIS AFFIDAVIT AT THIS TIME. IN A COURT FILING, DEPARTMENT LAWYERS ARE ARGUING THAT RELEASING THE AFFIDAVIT NOW COULD, QUOTE, CAUSE SIGNIFICANT AND IRREPARABLE DAMAGE TO THEIR INVESTIGATION. A CHILL FUTURE COOPERATION BY WITNESSES AND PUT HIGHLY CLASSIFIED MATERIALS AT RISK OF EXPOSURE. THE DEPARTMENT GOES INTO THIS HEARING THE STRONG POSITION, THESE KINDS OF AFFIDAVITS ARE ROUTINELY KEPT SEALED IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEM AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE INVESTIGATIONS. COURTS OFTEN DEFER TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S CLAIMS AND CONCERNS ABOUT CLASSIFIED MATERIALS AS THE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE HERE. THIS CASE IS UNLIKE ANY BEFORE. KENNETH? >> TERRY MORAN, IN D.C., THANK YOU. MORE ON RUDY GIULIANI TESTIFIED BEFORE A SPECIAL GRAND JOURNEY IN IT LENA. HE IS THE TARGET OF A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO POTENTIALLY ILLEGAL ATTEMPTS TO OVERTURN THE RESULTS OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN GEORGIA IN FAVOR OF FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. FOR MORE, LET'S BRING IN ABC NEWS SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER AARON KATERSKY ALONG WITH JUST ROBINS, FORMER CHIEF MINORITY COUNSEL FOR THE U.S. SENATE, PERMANENT SUBCOMMITTEE INVESTIGATIONS. GENTLEMEN, COULD SEE BOTH. AARON, WHAT MORE ARE WE LEARNING ABOUT HOW RUDY GIULIANI IS INVOLVED IN THIS INVESTIGATION IN GEORGIA? >> HE WAS CALLED TO TESTIFY. PROSECUTORS SAID HE KNEW ABOUT THE EFFORT TO OVERTURN THE RESULTS. HE MAY HAVE HAD KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND OTHERS WITHIN THE TRUMP INNER CIRCLE AND HIS ALLIES ABOUT HOW THEY SET ABOUT TRYING TO CONVINCE GEORGE A LAWMAKERS THAT THE VOTE WAS SOMEHOW FRAUDULENT. EVEN THOUGH GIULIANI NEVER PRESENTED EVIDENCE THAT HE SAID HE HAD WHEN HE APPEARED BEFORE GEORGIA LAWMAKERS. THE SPECIAL GRAND JURY CAN'T REALLY RECOMMEND CRIMINAL CHARGES AS FAR AS AN INDICTMENT GOES. THEY CAN DECIDE WHETHER THIS CASE MOVED FORWARD TOWARD AN INDICTMENT. IT IS NOT CLEAR THOUGH GIULIANI IS GOING BE PROVIDING A WHOLE LOT OF HELP TO THE SPECIAL GRAND JURY. AS A TARGET, HE MAY WELL INVOKE FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS AGAINST SELF INCRIMINATION. HE IS ALSO SIGNALED THAT AS AN ATTORNEY FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT, HE WOULD INVOKE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGES IF ASKED ABOUT CONVERSATIONS WITH TRUMP. >> JEFF, YOU HEARD AARON THERE. THE SPECIAL GRAND JURY DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO CHARGE ANYONE. WATER PROSECUTORS DOING HERE? WHETHER THEY SEEKING TO ACCOMPLISH BY HAVING GIULIANI TESTIFY? >> AS AARON SAID, IT DOES HAVE THE POWER TO MOVE THE MATTER TOWARD AN INDICTMENT. THIS IS NOT EXACTLY AN EMPTY EXERCISE. WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS GET INFORMATION ON TWO SUBJECTS. ONE IS FORMER MAYOR'S CULPABILITY POTENTIAL CULPABILITY IN CONNECTION WITH CONSPIRING TO TAMPER WITH THE GEORGIA ELECTION LAW. AND WHAT HE CAN PROVIDE ABOUT THE FORMER PRESIDENTS CULPABILITY IN THAT REGARD. HE IS A TARGET. THEREFORE, THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY LOOKING TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT HE DID AND HIS POTENTIAL CONSPIRACY TO TAMPER WITH THAT ELECTION STATUTE. AND WHAT HE KNOWS ABOUT THE FORMER PRESIDENTS INVOLVEMENT. I AGREE ENTIRELY THOUGH. WE ARE UNLIKELY TO KNOW VERY MUCH. HE IS LIKELY TO TAKE EITHER THE FIFTH OR SERVE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE IS, FRANKLY, ANY OTHER PRIVILEGE THAT ANYONE CAN CALL COCKED TO AVOID ANSWERING QUESTIONS TRUTHFULLY. >> EVEN IF THAT HAPPENS, IF HE TAKES THE FIFTH, THEY WILL STILL POTENTIALLY GO THROUGH THAT LIST OF QUESTIONS? >> I THINK THEY WILL. ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT, KENNETH, IS THIS. JUST BECAUSE HE TAKES THE FIFTH DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE, THAT THERE ISN'T EVIDENTIARY VALUE TO WHAT HE MAY SAY, JUST BECAUSE HE SERVED THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE ISN'T AN ABILITY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO TAKE IT FURTHER AND SAY, YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASSERT THAT PRIVILEGE. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE BEING ASKED ABOUT CONVERSATIONS IN WHICH OTHER PEOPLE WERE PRESENT. WHICH WOULD AGGREGATE THE PRIVILEGE. OR YOU'RE BEING ASKED ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU SAID TWO OTHER PEOPLE, CLAIMING TO BE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT. WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT THE PRIVILEGE DID NOT APPLY. THERE IS ALL MANNER OF QUESTIONS THAT COULD BE USEFULLY ASKED. I DO THINK THAT PROBABLY WE ARE GOING TO GET A, IF NOT A MIDDLE FINGER FROM THE FORMER MAYOR, THEN AN UNWILLINGNESS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. FOR REASONS WHICH ARE, WHICH IS ENTITLED TO INVOKE. >> NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS DOWN THERE IN GEORGIA, WE WILL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT. LET'S SHIFT NOW TO THE HOUSE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE AND ITS INVESTIGATION TO THE CAPITOL RIOT. FORMER VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE WAS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TODAY. HE SAID HE'D CONSIDER TESTIFYING BEFORE THE PANEL. LET'S TAKE A LISTEN. IF THERE'S AN INVITATION TO PARTICIPATE, WHY WOULD CONSIDER IT. YOU HEARD THE MENTION THE CONSTITUTION A FEW TIMES THIS MORNING. THE CONSTITUTION, THERE ARE THREE BRANCHES. ANY INVITATION THAT WOULD BE DIRECTED TO ME I WOULD HAVE TO REFLECT ON THE UNIQUE ROLE I WAS SERVING AS VICE PRESIDENT. >> WOW, AARON. DID THIS COME OUT OF THE BLUE? HOW SIGNIFICANT COULD THIS BE A PENCE ACTUALLY TESTIFIES? >> IT WAS A QUESTION AT A POLITICS IN -- HIS RESPONSE WAS REALLY THE MOST EXTENSIVE COMMENT HE HAS MADE ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF TESTIFYING BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE. IT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT. THE VICE PRESIDENT SAID HE WOULD CONSIDER IT. THERE WAS A HEDGE THERE. HE SAID HE WOULD REFLECT ON HIS ROLE AS VICE PRESIDENT AT THE TIME. HE SAID IT WOULD BE UNPRECEDENTED FOR A VICE PRESIDENT TO BE SUMMONED TO CAPITOL HILL TO TESTIFY BEFORE CONGRESS. WE ARE TOLD THAT BEHIND THE SCENES SOURCES HAVE TOLD US THAT THE PIN THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN NEGOTIATING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND ORDER TO SECURE POTENTIAL TESTIMONY FROM THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT. THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, ABOUT THE PRESSURE THAT HE FELT WAS EXERTED ON HIM BY THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION RESULTS. OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT TESTIMONY IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED WHERE THE VICE PRESIDENT WAS ON JANUARY SIX. WHAT HE WAS DOING IN THAT UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE. THE COMMITTEE, NO DOUBT, ONCE AGAIN FROM DIRECTLY. >> I'M SURE THEY DO. AARON, ON THE MAR-A-LAGO SEARCH. A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT. WE KNOW THAT TOMORROW A JUDGE WILL HOLD A HEARING UNDER OPPRESSED FROM -- TO UNSEAL THE AFFIDAVIT BEHIND THE FBI SEARCH THEIR. WHAT MORE ARE WE LEARNING? >> IT WOULD BE HIGHLY UNUSUAL FOR THIS TO BE UNSEALED. IT COULD BE DOZENS, POTENTIALLY, 100 PAGES ARE SO THAT EXPLAINS THE UNDERLYING SUSPICIONS OF THE FBI AS TO WHY THEY BELIEVE CRIMES MAY HAVE OCCURRED AT THE FORMER PRESIDENTS ESTATE. CRUCIALLY, IT COULD SIGNAL WHO THEY'RE TALKING TO, WHO THEY WANT TO TALK TO, WHO MAY BE COOPERATING. A ROADMAP, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CALLED IT, TO THEIR INVESTIGATION. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS ASKED THIS TO BE KEPT UNDER WRAPS. GIVEN THE TEMPERATURE IN THE COUNTRY THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, KENNETH, ALL THE THREATS AND ACTS OF VIOLENCE DIRECTED TOWARDS THOSE INVOLVED IN THE SEARCH LAST WEEK AT MAR-A-LAGO, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS EXPECTED TO ARGUE THAT IT WOULD JUST BE TOO DANGEROUS IF IT GOT OUT. >> ALL RIGHT, WE ARE OUT OF TIME, WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE, AARON, JEFF, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> COMING UP, REPRESENTATIVE LIZ CHENEY MAY HAVE LOST HER PRIMARY, SHE'S ALREADY PLANNING FOR NEXT ACT. >> I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO ENSURE DONALD TRUMP IS NEVER AGAIN ANYWHERE NEAR THE OVAL OFFICE. >> CHENEY IS ALREADY TAKING ACTION ON THAT FRONT. WE WILL TELL YOU HOW AFTER THIS. WELCOME BACK. AFTER THOSE CRITICAL ELECTIONS OVERNIGHT AND WYOMING AND ALASKA, CONGRESSMAN LIZ CHENEY HAS CONCEDED AFTER LOSING HER PRIMARY TO TRUMP BACKED CHALLENGER HARRIET HAGEMAN. CHENEY IS ALREADY PLANNING HER NEXT ACT. ABC NEWS WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT HAS MORE FROM WYOMING. >> LIZ CHENEY DID WHAT DONALD TRUMP REFUSES TO DO. SHE CONCEDED SHE LOST. >> TONIGHT HARRIET HAS RECEIVED THE MOST VOTES IN THIS PRIMARY. SHE WON. I CALLED HER TO CONCEDE THE RACE. THIS PRIMARY ELECTION IS OVER. NOW THE REAL WORK BEGINS. >> CHENEY'S LANDSLIDE LOSS WAS NO SURPRISE. SHE KNEW SHE'D PAY A PRICE FOR VOTING TO IMPEACH DONALD TRUMP AND AND SERVING AS THE VICE CHAIR OF THE JANUARY SIX COMMITTEE. AFTER ALL, WYOMING IS THE STATE TRUMP WON BY THE LARGEST MARGIN. >> NO HOUSE SEAT, NO OFFICE IN THIS LAND IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PRINCIPLES WE ARE ALL SWORN TO PROTECT. I WELL UNDERSTOOD THE POTENTIAL POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES OF ABIDING BY MY DUTY. >> THAT DUTY, CHENEY SAID, IT IS STANDING UP TO A POLITICAL FORCE SHEET GRAVELY WARN COULD PROVOKE EVEN MORE VIOLENCE THAN WHAT WE SAW ON JANUARY 6TH. >> OUR NATION IS BARRELING ONCE AGAIN TOWARDS CRISIS, LAWLESSNESS, AND VIOLENCE. NO AMERICAN SHOULD SUPPORT ELECTION DENIERS FOR ANY POSITION OF GENUINE RESPONSIBILITY WHERE THEIR REFUSAL TO FOLLOW THE RULE OF LAW WILL CORRUPT OUR FUTURE. >> THE VICTOR, HARRIET HAGEMAN, WE CAME THE FRONT RUNNER THE MINUTE DONALD TRUMP ENDORSED HER. SHE ONCE CRITICIZED TRUMP BUT NOW REPEATS HIS LIE, THE 2020 ELECTION WAS STOLEN. WHEN SHE WON, SHE THANKED HIM. >> WE WERE ALL VERY GRATEFUL TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> WHAT WILL CHENEY DO NEXT? WILL SHE RUN FOR PRESIDENT? SHE DID NOT SAY. SHE MADE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR ON HER OVERALL GOAL. >> I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO ENSURE DONALD TRUMP IS NEVER AGAIN ANYWHERE NEAR THE OVAL OFFICE. >> AS FOR THIS CHANGE IMMEDIATE FUTURE, REMAINS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS ANOTHER FOUR MONTHS. SHE WILL CONTINUE HER WORK ON THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE WHICH WAS ENTIRELY UNAFFECTED BY THE RESULTS HERE IN WYOMING. KENNETH? >> JOHN CARL, THANK YOU, LET'S BRING IN ABC NEWS ZIRIN SHOT WITH MORE HERE IN WASHINGTON. ZIRIN, GOOD TO SEE, WHAT IS NEXT FOR CONGRESSWOMAN LIZ CHENEY AFTER THIS LOSS? >> KENNETH, ALWAYS FEEL LIKE I'M TALK ABOUT CHRISTMAS IN JULY HERE. THE 2024 RACE IS ALREADY BEING TALKED ABOUT. SHE'S GOING TO LAUNCH AN ANTI TRUMP GROUPS TO OPPOSE TRUMPS LIKELY 2024 RACES. SHE SAID SHE'S GOING TO DO THAT IN THE COMING WEEKS. SHE REALLY WANTS TO EDUCATE PEOPLE, HER TEAM SAYS, I MUCH HE CALLS THE ONGOING THREAT TO THE REPUBLIC. NOW, AS FOR HER, IF SHE'S THINKING ABOUT 2024, AND SHE TOLD ANOTHER OUT THIS MORNING SHE IS THINKING ABOUT IT. COULD SHE WINDOW? A LOT OF EXPERTS HAVE SAID, YOU SAW THE RESULTS, YOU SEE THEM ON YOUR BOARD, SHE LOST BY A LANDSLIDE. EXPERTS BELIEVE THAT SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAYBE HOLD TRUMP BACK IN SOME WAYS AND MAKE IT A LITTLE HARDER FOR HIM IF, IN FACT, HE DOES ALSO RUN IN 2024. >> I THINK WE WILL BE WATCHING. WE KNOW THAT CHENEY IS THE VICE CHAIR OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING THE ATTACK ON THE CAPITOL. WHAT COULD HER LOSS MEAN FOR THE INVESTIGATION? >> YOU HEARD JONATHAN CARL A COUPLE SECONDS AGO, SHE HAD FOUR MONTHS LEFT. SHE'S EXPECTED TO CONTINUE ON THE JERRY SIX COMMITTEE. SHE'S EXPRESSED HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HER. DESPITE THAT LOSS LAST NIGHT, SHE REALLY WANTS TO FIGHT TO KEEP TRUMP FROM RUNNING AGAIN. SHE WANTS TO KEEP TRUMP FROM DOMINATING THE PARTY. SHE WILL BE CONTINUING ON THE JERRY SIXTH COMMITTEE. >> WE KNOW THAT HAGMAN, THE WOMAN WHO BEAT LIZ CHENEY, FIRST BEFORE DECIDING TO RUN AGAINST IN THE RACE, SHE IS ALSO ECHOED TRUMP'S LIES ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU, ZOHREEN, ABOUT HER AND TRUMP'S IMPACT ON THIS RACE? >> THAT IS ONE MOST FASCINATING THINGS. HAGEMAN CALLED TRUMP THE WEAKEST CANDIDATE. SOMEONE WHO IS RACIST AND XENOPHOBIC, THAT WAS IN 2016 JUST A FEW YEARS AGO. SHE CAMPAIGNED FOR LIZ CHENEY. HER TUNE HAS REALLY CHANGED SHE RECENTLY SAID THAT ABSOLUTELY THE ELECTION WAS RIGGED. IT JUST REALLY GOES TO SHOW THE COMMAND THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS ON HER HIS PARTY STILL, NOT AN OFFICE, HE'S THE DE FACTO LEADER OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. YOU HEARD JONATHAN CARL DISAPPOINTED TO GO IN HIS PIECE TALK ABOUT HOW WHEN TRUMP ENDORSED HAGEMAN, SHE AUTOMATICALLY BECAME THE FRONT-RUNNER. IT GOES TO SHOW HOW POWERFUL TRUMP STILL IS IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. >> DEFINITELY. AND ALASKA ALSO HELD PRIMARIES YESTERDAY. UNLIKE IN WYOMING, LISA MURKOWSKI, WHO VOTED TO CONVICT TRUMP IN HIS SECOND IMPEACHMENT TRIAL, SURVIVED HER PRIMARY AND WILL MOVE ON TO THE GENERAL ELECTION. WHAT DOES THAT SAY? WHETHER THE POLITICAL EXPERTS SAYING ABOUT SENATOR MURKOWSKI 'S FUTURE IN ALASKA? >> YEAH, VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF RACE. YOU SEE IT RIGHT THERE, MURKOWSKI HAS 44% OF THE VOTE, TSHIBAKA. RIGHT NOW NOT ALL THE VOTES ARE IN BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SEPARATED BY ABOUT 5000 VOTES, STILL PRETTY CLOSE. AND MURKOWSKI ALSO VOTED TO CONVICT TRUMP, JUST LIKE LIZ CHENEY DID. BUT THE ALASKAN VOTING SYSTEM IS VERY DIFFERENT. THAT SYSTEM, THE TOP FOUR, REGARDLESS OF PARTY, THEY MOVE ON TO NOVEMBER. BUT AGAIN, TSHIBAKA IT'S BACKED BY TRUMP AND SO THE NOVEMBER ELECTION WILL LIKELY BE VERY TOUGH. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT LISA MURKOWSKI, THE RACE WILL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE MURKY FOR HER. >> YEAH AND, ALSO, 2008 IS CALLING ON SARAH PALIN IS BACK RUNNING FOR OFFICE. DIFFERENT RACE THIS TIME. WHAT IS THE LATEST ON HER RACE AND TRY TO GET A SEAT IN CONGRESS? >> HARD TO REALLY KNOW AT THIS POINT. AND AGAIN, IT'S BECAUSE THE ALASKAN VOTING SYSTEM IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, IT'S CHANGED AROUND A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW. PELTOLA IS LEADING THE RACE RIGHT NOW, A DEMOCRAT WITH 38% OF THE VOTE. PALIN HAS 32 AND THEN ANOTHER REPUBLICAN, BEGICH, HAS 29% OF THE VOTE. THEY HAVE RANKED CHOICE VOTING NOW IN ALASKA. PALIN, IN THEORY, SHE COULD COME OUT ON TOP BASED ON THIS NEW VOTING SYSTEM. BUT WE SHOULD NOTE, THE FINAL RESULTS WILL BE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. KENNETH? >> ALL RIGHT, ZOHREEN SHAH, BREAKING DOWN ALL THAT ELECTION IS FOR US. ARE WE TWINNING? LITTLE BLACK HERE, SAME KIND OF COLOR. >> I LIKE. IT >> ALL RIGHT, I'LL SEE YOU LATER. >> GOOD TO SEE YOU, KENNETH. >> COMING UP, THE NBA WANTS YOU TO EXERCISE YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE. THE LEAGUE IS CLEARING THE SCHEDULE ON NOVEMBER 8TH. WE'RE SPEAKING WITH AN EXACT ABOUT IT NEXT. >> WELCOME BACK. THE NBA SAYS IT'S MAKING A SLAM DUNK DECISION, CANCELING ALL GAMES ON ELECTION DAY. INSTEAD, THE LEAGUE'S 30 TEAMS WILL PLAY ON NOVEMBER 7TH, THE NIGHT BEFORE MIDTERMS, IN AN EFFORT TO SHARE ELECTION INFORMATION. IN A STATEMENT, THE LEAGUE SAYS THE RARE DECISION CAME OUT OF THE NBA'S, QUOTE, FAMILY FOCUS ON PROMOTING NONPARTISAN CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND ENCOURAGING FANS TO MAKE A PLAN TO VOTE DURING MIDTERM ELECTIONS. THE NATIONAL BASKETBALL SOCIAL JUSTICE COALITION FEATURE SOME OF THE ISSUES THEY ARE FIGHTING IN A NEW VIDEO, TAKE A LOOK. >> THIS COMES WITH A YOUNG GENERATION. >> WE ARE THE FUTURE. >> CONTINUING TO GO OUT THERE AND SAYING THAT THIS IS RIGHT, STANDING UP FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN. IT'S OUR JOB TO KEEP THE FOOT ON THE GAS, BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AS IF WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IT. >> TO BE IN THIS MOMENT AND HAVE A COALITION THAT IS DEDICATED TO DOING THIS WORK ON BEHALF OF THE NBA COMMUNITY, THAT IS THE NEXT STEP, THE NEXT EVOLUTION AND THAT UNBROKEN CHAIN OF ADVOCACY UNDERTAKEN BY PLAYERS. >> FOR MORE, LET'S BRING IN THE MAN YOU JUST HEARD THERE AND SAW. THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION SOCIAL JUSTICE COALITION, JAMES DUG IN. SIR, GOOD TO SEE YOU, THANKS FOR JOINING US ON ABC NEWS LIVE. >> THANKS SO MUCH, KENNETH, GREAT TO BE WITH YOU. >> SO, WE KNOW THE NBA SAYS ALL 30 TEAMS WILL PLAY THE MONDAY BEFORE ON A THEMED CIVIC ENGAGEMENT NIGHT TO ENCOURAGE PLAN FANS, PLAYERS AND STAFF TO VOTE IN THIS YEAR'S MIDTERM ELECTIONS. WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN? >> ULTIMATELY, KENNETH, THIS IS ABOUT EVERYBODY BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AND DEMOCRACY. GETTING IT TO REGISTER, GETTING OUT OF, OUT LEARNING ABOUT THE ISSUES THEY CARE ABOUT. AND THAT MAKING THEIR VOICE HEARD. THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO, CHARGE BUILDING ON THE LONG TRADITION IN THE NBA COMMUNITY OF MAKING SURE PEOPLE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES DO GO OUT AND ENGAGE WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS ON ISSUES THEY CARE ABOUT. DEMOCRACY IN GOVERNMENT, THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE MADE SURE TO SUPPORT. >> WE ARE ASSUMING HERE THAT MUCH OF THIS IS ALSO DRIVEN BY THE PLAYERS, BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN SO MANY OUTSPOKEN PLAYERS, INCLUDING LEBRON JAMES, INVOLVED IN VOTING REGISTRATION DRIVES AND OTHER INITIATIVES. SOMETIMES EVEN TURNED THEIR ARENAS INTO VOTING REGISTRATION CENTERS ASIDE FROM NOT SCHEDULING GAMES ON VOTING DAY. WHEN ELSE DOES THE NBA HAVE PLANNED? >> FIRST AND FOREMOST, THAT EFFORT IN 2020 WAS REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN WE ARE IN COVID, DURING THE PANDEMIC, WHEN THE FACILITIES WERE NOT BEING USED. TO DEDICATED MANY OF THOSE AS POSSIBLE TO BEING POLLING SITES, BEING REGISTRATION LOCATIONS, THAT WAS ONE COMMITMENT. THIS, YEAR AS WE HEAD INTO THE 2022 ELECTIONS WE WANT TO BUILD ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT ON ELECTION DAY ITSELF THERE ARE NO GAMES. SO THAT WE ENCOURAGE ALL FANS AND MEMBERS OF COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO GET OUT AND VOTE. AS WELL AS ALLOW NBA EMPLOYEES AND TEAM MEMBERS TO GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S MOST EXCITING ABOUT THIS WORK IS SO MUCH IS IT DRIVEN AT THE TEAM LEVEL AND IN INDIVIDUAL MARKETS. WE HAVE 30 TEAMS ACROSS 28 MARKETS NATIONALLY, AND BEING ABLE TO SEE AND SUPPORT AND A LOT OF TIME FOR EACH OF THEM TO WORK WITH THAT NONPARTISAN CIVIC ENGAGEMENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY WORKED WITH BEFORE, BUILD NEW RELATIONSHIPS TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO EXPRESS THEIR VOICE AND THEIR VOTE IN DEMOCRACY. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES A SPECIAL, BECAUSE IT LOOKS DIFFERENT PLACE TO PLACE. WE'RE NOW ALLOWING FOR EACH OF THOSE TEAMS TO HAVE EVEN MORE TIME AND MORE ABILITY TO SUPPORT AND PROVIDE RESOURCES AND VOTING AND ENGAGEMENT AND CIVIC PARTICIPANT TAISHAN. >> BACK TO THE PLAYER INVOLVEMENT HERE. GEORGE FLOYD, BREONNA TAYLOR, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. WE'VE SEEN THE PLAYERS WITH THEIR NAMES ON SHIRTS, ON THE COURT, AS THEY WARM UP. WE KNOW THAT THOSE PLAYERS UP INSULIN BALL POLITICALLY. BUT FOR THOSE ON THOSE CRITICS AND SAY THAT SPORTS AND POLITICS SHOULD BE SEPARATE, OR QUOTE SHUT UP AND DRIBBLE, WHAT DO YOU SAY? >> ULTIMATELY, WE'RE ALL PART OF A SOCIETY. WHETHER YOU ARE A FAN, A PLAYER, A COACH, SOMEBODY ON THE SIDELINES OR SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T CARE ABOUT BASKETBALL, MAKE IT YOUR VOICE MATTERS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. REGARDLESS OF YOUR POSITION AT A PARTICULAR ISSUE. FOR US, THAT 70 ENGAGEMENT PIECE OF ARTWORK IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT BRINGS EVERYBODY TOGETHER. THE IDEA THAT WE SHOULD ALL HAVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO CAST A BALLOT, THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR THE VOICES IN THEIR COMMUNITY OR DOESN'T WANT MORE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS. THAT IS A BIGGER SIGN OF A HEALTHY DEMOCRACY AND SOMETHING WE WANT TO GET BEHIND. >> MR. JAMES CADOGAN, YOU ARE POINTED EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION SOCIALS ISIS COALITION IN EARLY 2021. WERE YOU HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH IN YOUR ROLE? >> ULTIMATELY, IT'S ABOUT BRINGING THE NBA COMMUNITIES VOICES TO THE PUBLIC POLICY SPACES THAT WE KNOW NEED SUPPORT. SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS, WHETHER THEY'RE NATIONAL OR LOCAL, COMMUNITY BASED, WHO HAVE BEEN DOING GREAT WORK ON A HOST OF SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES. ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO IS HELP SHED A SPOTLIGHT ON THOSE ISSUES. SO, PARTNERING WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, FINDING PLACES WHERE WE CAN BE USEFUL, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE USING OUR PLATFORM THAT WE HAVE, A PLATFORM UNLIKE ANY OTHER WITHIN THE NBA FAMILY, TO HELP RAISE UP GOOD WORK THAT IS GOING TO HELP PEOPLE LEAD HEALTHIER AND BETTER LIVES. THAT'S REALLY THE END GOAL. SO, IF WE ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT A PARTNER WITH ORGANIZATIONS WHO DO GET JUSTICE WORK, AND WE WILL BE IN THE RIGHT TRACK. >> YOUR FINAL MESSAGE, IN OUR FINAL SECONDS HERE? >> EVERYBODY, GET REGISTERED. GET OUT AND VOTE. IF YOU CAN HELP AT A POLLING SITE, PLEASE DO. ULTIMATELY THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE FUTURE IS TOGETHER AND ELECTION DAY IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT STEPS IN THAT PROCESS. >> THE ONLY WAY WE'LL GET TO THE FUTURE IS TOGETHER. I'M GONNA TAKE THAT WITH ME, SIR. ALL RIGHT, JAMES CADOGAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> THANKS SO MUCH, KENNETH, APPRECIATE THE TIME. >> I'M KENNETH MOTEN, THANKS FOR JOINING US. REMEMBER, ABC NEWS LIVE IS HERE WITH YOU ALL DAY FOR THE LATEST NEWS, CONTEXT AND ANALYSIS. REMEMBER, ABC NEWS LIVE IS AVAILABLE ON ALL OF YOUR STREAMING DEVICES. PLUS THE ABC NEWS APP AND ON ABCNEWS.COM. THE NEWS CONTINUES, RIGHT AFTER THIS.

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