WE'LL TAKE YOU THERE. YOU'RE WATCHING "ABC NEWS LIVE" YOU'RE WATCHING "ABC NEWS LIVE" . . HI, I'M DIANE MACEDO TODAY HI, I'M DIANE MACEDO TODAY ON ABC NEWS. ON ABC NEWS. THE DEBT LIMIT DEAL IS ON ITS THE DEBT LIMIT DEAL IS ON ITS WAY TO THE SENATE AFTER PASSING WAY TO THE SENATE AFTER PASSING THE HOUSE WITH JUST FOUR DAYS THE HOUSE WITH JUST FOUR DAYS LEFT UNTIL THE GOVERNMENT RUNS LEFT UNTIL THE GOVERNMENT RUNS OUT OF CASH . OUT OF CASH . THE HURDLES AHEAD ON BOTH SIDES THE HURDLES AHEAD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. OF THE AISLE. YOU'RE DEVELOPMENTS IN YOU'RE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE INVESTIGATION INTO FORMER THE INVESTIGATION INTO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S HANDLING OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. >> SOURCES TELL >> SOURCES TELL ABC NEWS FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS ABC NEWS FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS HAVE AUDIO OF THE FORMER HAVE AUDIO OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT ACKNOWLEDGING HE KEPT PRESIDENT ACKNOWLEDGING HE KEPT A CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT ABOUT A CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT ABOUT A POSSIBLE ATTACK ON IRAN. A POSSIBLE ATTACK ON IRAN. >> WHY IT COULD BE A KEY PIECE >> WHY IT COULD BE A KEY PIECE OF EVIDENCE. OF EVIDENCE. RAGING WILDFIRES ARE SENDING RAGING WILDFIRES ARE SENDING SMOKE ACROSS THE EASTERN US AIR SMOKE ACROSS THE EASTERN US AIR QUALITY ALERTS ARE IN EFFECT IN QUALITY ALERTS ARE IN EFFECT IN NEW ENGLAND, WITH SMOKE NEW ENGLAND, WITH SMOKE TRAVELING AS FAR SOUTH AS D.C. TRAVELING AS FAR SOUTH AS D.C. BUT FIRE OFFICIALS ARE NOW BUT FIRE OFFICIALS ARE NOW SAYING ABOUT THE FORECAST. SAYING ABOUT THE FORECAST. AMAZON IS ACCUSED OF AMAZON IS ACCUSED OF SACRIFICING PRIVACY FOR PROFITS SACRIFICING PRIVACY FOR PROFITS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS SAYING ABOUT RECORDINGS FROM IS SAYING ABOUT RECORDINGS FROM ALEXA VOICE ASSISTANT AND RING ALEXA VOICE ASSISTANT AND RING DOORBELL CAMERAS. DOORBELL CAMERAS. >> ALEX MURDOCH BACK IN COURT >> ALEX MURDOCH BACK IN COURT AGAIN. AGAIN. HE WAS ALREADY FOUND GUILTY OF HE WAS ALREADY FOUND GUILTY OF KILLING HIS WIFE AND SON. KILLING HIS WIFE AND SON. NOW, THE NEW FEDERAL CHARGES, NOW, THE NEW FEDERAL CHARGES, WHAT HIS PLEA MEANS AND WHAT'S WHAT HIS PLEA MEANS AND WHAT'S NEXT. NEXT. >> WE BEGIN WITH THE DEBT LIMIT >> WE BEGIN WITH THE DEBT LIMIT DEAL NOW HEADING TO THE SENATE. DEAL NOW HEADING TO THE SENATE. THE DEAL PASSED THE HOUSE LAST THE DEAL PASSED THE HOUSE LAST NIGHT WITH SUPPORT FROM NIGHT WITH SUPPORT FROM A MAJORITY OF HOUSE REPUBLICANS A MAJORITY OF HOUSE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. AND DEMOCRATS. BUT IT COULD FACE SOME HURDLES BUT IT COULD FACE SOME HURDLES FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE IN FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE IN THE SENATE WITH ONLY FOUR DAYS THE SENATE WITH ONLY FOUR DAYS LEFT UNTIL THE DEFAULT LEFT UNTIL THE DEFAULT DEADLINE, RACHEL SCOTT HAS DEADLINE, RACHEL SCOTT HAS THE LATEST. THE LATEST. A DEBT LIMIT BREAKTHROUGH AFTER A DEBT LIMIT BREAKTHROUGH AFTER A BITTER STANDOFF AND WEEKS OF A BITTER STANDOFF AND WEEKS OF STALLED NEGOTIATIONS. STALLED NEGOTIATIONS. THE HOUSE PASSING A BILL THE HOUSE PASSING A BILL TO AVOID A DEVASTATING DEFAULT. TO AVOID A DEVASTATING DEFAULT. YAYS, OR 314 NAYS ARE 117. YAYS, OR 314 NAYS ARE 117. >> THE BILL IS PASSED. >> THE BILL IS PASSED. A MAJORITY OF HOUSE REPUBLICANS A MAJORITY OF HOUSE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS SUPPORTING AND DEMOCRATS SUPPORTING THE DEAL BROKERED BY HOUSE THE DEAL BROKERED BY HOUSE SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY AND PRESIDENT BIDEN. AND PRESIDENT BIDEN. >> IS IT EVERYTHING I WANTED? >> IS IT EVERYTHING I WANTED? NO. NO. THE BUT SITTING WITH ONE HOUSE, THE BUT SITTING WITH ONE HOUSE, WITH A DEMOCRATIC SENATE AND A WITH A DEMOCRATIC SENATE AND A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT WHO DIDN'T DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT WHO DIDN'T WANT TO MEET WITH US? WANT TO MEET WITH US? I THINK WE DID PRETTY DARN GOOD I THINK WE DID PRETTY DARN GOOD FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. >> BUT MCCARTHY FACED >> BUT MCCARTHY FACED RESISTANCE FROM MEMBERS OF HIS RESISTANCE FROM MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY. OWN PARTY. SEVENTY ONE REPUBLICANS VOTED SEVENTY ONE REPUBLICANS VOTED AGAINST THE BILL, SAYING AGAINST THE BILL, SAYING THEY WANTED EVEN DEEPER THEY WANTED EVEN DEEPER SPENDING CUTS. SPENDING CUTS. >> SPEAKER MCCARTHY CALLS IT >> SPEAKER MCCARTHY CALLS IT A VICTORY. A VICTORY. >> BUT DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW, >> BUT DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A VICTORY. IT'S NOT A VICTORY. IT'S A IT'S A SURRENDER. IT'S A IT'S A SURRENDER. AND SOME PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS AND SOME PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS WEREN'T HAPPY EITHER. WEREN'T HAPPY EITHER. >> FORTY SIX DEMOCRATS ARE >> FORTY SIX DEMOCRATS ARE REJECTING IT, TOO. REJECTING IT, TOO. >> I THINK REPUBLICANS NEED >> I THINK REPUBLICANS NEED TO OWN THIS VOTE . TO OWN THIS VOTE . THIS WAS THEIR DEAL. THIS WAS THEIR DEAL. THE BILL CLAWS BACK BILLIONS IN THE BILL CLAWS BACK BILLIONS IN UNSPENT COVID FUNDS AND FROM UNSPENT COVID FUNDS AND FROM THE IRS AND IMPOSES NEW WORK THE IRS AND IMPOSES NEW WORK REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME OLDER REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME OLDER AMERICANS RECEIVING FOOD AMERICANS RECEIVING FOOD ASSISTANCE AND NOW HEADS TO THE ASSISTANCE AND NOW HEADS TO THE SENATE UP AGAINST THE CLOCK. SENATE UP AGAINST THE CLOCK. WITH JUST FOUR DAYS UNTIL WITH JUST FOUR DAYS UNTIL THE GOVERNMENT RUNS OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT RUNS OUT OF MONEY TO PAY ITS BILLS. MONEY TO PAY ITS BILLS. >> THERE'S BEEN A VERY GOOD >> THERE'S BEEN A VERY GOOD VOTE IN THE HOUSE OF VOTE IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. REPRESENTATIVES. >> WE I HOPE WE CAN MOVE >> WE I HOPE WE CAN MOVE THE BILL QUICKLY HERE IN THE BILL QUICKLY HERE IN THE SENATE. THE SENATE. BUT THERE COULD BE HURDLES BUT THERE COULD BE HURDLES AHEAD. AHEAD. >> SOME SENATORS ALREADY >> SOME SENATORS ALREADY RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT THE VOTE RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT THE VOTE NOW. NOW. >> AND I'LL FIGHT HARD. >> AND I'LL FIGHT HARD. I HAVE TO MAKE CLEAR THAT I HAVE TO MAKE CLEAR THAT I CANNOT VOTE FOR THIS BILL . I CANNOT VOTE FOR THIS BILL . DIANE . DIANE . AND ANY ONE SENATOR HAS AND ANY ONE SENATOR HAS THE POWER TO DRAG THIS FIGHT THE POWER TO DRAG THIS FIGHT OUT, BUT THEY ARE UNDER SO MUCH OUT, BUT THEY ARE UNDER SO MUCH PRESSURE TO GET THIS DONE. PRESSURE TO GET THIS DONE. AND TO GET IT DONE QUICKLY. AND TO GET IT DONE QUICKLY. SENATE MAJORITY LEADER CHUCK SENATE MAJORITY LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER SAYING THERE IS NO ROOM SCHUMER SAYING THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ERROR HERE. FOR ERROR HERE. HE'S CONFIDENT THAT HE HAS HE'S CONFIDENT THAT HE HAS THE VOTES THAT THE SENATE NEEDS THE VOTES THAT THE SENATE NEEDS TO PASS THIS BILL , BUT IT TO PASS THIS BILL , BUT IT NEEDS TO BE ON THE PRESIDENT'S NEEDS TO BE ON THE PRESIDENT'S DESK BY MONDAY. DESK BY MONDAY. DIANE , SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL DIANE , SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT, RACHEL SCOTT, CORRESPONDENT, RACHEL SCOTT, THANK YOU . THANK YOU . LET'S BRING IN ABC'S BRIAN LET'S BRING IN ABC'S BRIAN ON CAPITOL HILL, ALONG ON CAPITOL HILL, ALONG WITH ABC'S ELIZABETH CHELSIE AT WITH ABC'S ELIZABETH CHELSIE AT THE WHITE HOUSE FOR MORE ON THE WHITE HOUSE FOR MORE ON THIS. THIS. JAY, SOME SENATORS HAVE ALREADY JAY, SOME SENATORS HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT THEY WON'T VOTE FOR SAID THAT THEY WON'T VOTE FOR THIS BILL . THIS BILL . >> SO IS THERE ENOUGH SUPPORT >> SO IS THERE ENOUGH SUPPORT TO PASS THIS? TO PASS THIS? AND YOU HEARD A FEW OF THEM IN AND YOU HEARD A FEW OF THEM IN RACHEL'S PIECE JUST THERE. RACHEL'S PIECE JUST THERE. LINDSEY GRAHAM, BERNIE SANDERS, LINDSEY GRAHAM, BERNIE SANDERS, POSING THIS FOR VERY DIFFERENT POSING THIS FOR VERY DIFFERENT REASONS. REASONS. THERE ARE SOME SENATORS, AS YOU THERE ARE SOME SENATORS, AS YOU SAID , DIANE , WHO HAVE COME SAID , DIANE , WHO HAVE COME OUT. OUT. SO THEY DO NOT LIKE THIS SO THEY DO NOT LIKE THIS AGREEMENT. AGREEMENT. THEY EITHER FEEL LIKE IT THEY EITHER FEEL LIKE IT DOESN'T DO ENOUGH FOR DEFENSE DOESN'T DO ENOUGH FOR DEFENSE SPENDING OR THEY FEEL LIKE IT SPENDING OR THEY FEEL LIKE IT DOESN'T DO ENOUGH TO CUT DOESN'T DO ENOUGH TO CUT SPENDING OR THEY DON'T LIKE SPENDING OR THEY DON'T LIKE THE CONCESSIONS THAT THE WHITE THE CONCESSIONS THAT THE WHITE HOUSE GAVE AWAY. HOUSE GAVE AWAY. IF THEY'RE PROGRESSIVE. IF THEY'RE PROGRESSIVE. BUT THE SENSE IS THAT THERE ARE BUT THE SENSE IS THAT THERE ARE CERTAINLY ENOUGH VOTES IN CERTAINLY ENOUGH VOTES IN THE SENATE TO PASS THIS WHEN IT THE SENATE TO PASS THIS WHEN IT GETS CALLED FOR A VOTE. GETS CALLED FOR A VOTE. BUT THOSE SENATORS WHO OPPOSE BUT THOSE SENATORS WHO OPPOSE THIS, IF THEY WANT TO , THIS, IF THEY WANT TO , THEY CAN PUT UP PROCEDURAL THEY CAN PUT UP PROCEDURAL HURDLES THAT MIGHT PUSH HURDLES THAT MIGHT PUSH THE NOTION OF VOTING THE NOTION OF VOTING BACK EITHER IF IT'S DONE BACK EITHER IF IT'S DONE QUICKLY AND THERE IS KIND OF QUICKLY AND THERE IS KIND OF A UNIVERSAL AGREEMENT TO DO IT. A UNIVERSAL AGREEMENT TO DO IT. THERE COULD BE A VOTE AS EARLY THERE COULD BE A VOTE AS EARLY AS TONIGHT, BUT THEY COULD PUSH AS TONIGHT, BUT THEY COULD PUSH THAT VOTE BACK. THAT VOTE BACK. IF SOME SENATORS CHOOSE TO GO IF SOME SENATORS CHOOSE TO GO INTO FRIDAY, POTENTIALLY INTO INTO FRIDAY, POTENTIALLY INTO THE WEEKEND. THE WEEKEND. AND CERTAINLY THAT'S WHEN AND CERTAINLY THAT'S WHEN THINGS GET COMPLICATED BECAUSE THINGS GET COMPLICATED BECAUSE WE'RE VERY MUCH ON THE CLOCK WE'RE VERY MUCH ON THE CLOCK HERE. HERE. WITH THAT MONDAY X DATE, WITH THAT MONDAY X DATE, THE PRESIDENT HAS TO SIGN IT THE PRESIDENT HAS TO SIGN IT BY JUNE 5TH, WHICH MEANS IF BY JUNE 5TH, WHICH MEANS IF THERE ARE ANY HURDLES, THERE ARE ANY HURDLES, THEY HAVE TO BE CLEARED UP AT THEY HAVE TO BE CLEARED UP AT SOME POINT DURING THE WEEKEND. SOME POINT DURING THE WEEKEND. >> ELIZABETH , THE DEAL PASSED >> ELIZABETH , THE DEAL PASSED THE HOUSE THREE 14 TO 17 WITH A THE HOUSE THREE 14 TO 17 WITH A MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS SUPPORTING IT. AND REPUBLICANS SUPPORTING IT. HOW BIG OF A VICTORY IS THAT HOW BIG OF A VICTORY IS THAT FOR THE WHITE HOUSE AND FOR FOR THE WHITE HOUSE AND FOR SPEAKER MCCARTHY? SPEAKER MCCARTHY? WELL, THE FACT IS THAT IT WELL, THE FACT IS THAT IT PASSED AND THAT IS A VICTORY PASSED AND THAT IS A VICTORY FROM THE PRESIDENT AND SPEAKER FROM THE PRESIDENT AND SPEAKER MCCARTHY. MCCARTHY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY BOTH ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY BOTH ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAD TO MAKE COMPROMISES IN THEY HAD TO MAKE COMPROMISES IN THIS FINAL BILL THAT BOTH SIDES THIS FINAL BILL THAT BOTH SIDES DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING THEY WANTED. THEY WANTED. DIANE , BUT AT THE END OF DIANE , BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY SAY THAT THIS THE DAY, THEY SAY THAT THIS AVERTED THE WORST CASE AVERTED THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN SCENARIO, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN A DEFAULT. A DEFAULT. AND WE'RE HEARING, OF COURSE, AND WE'RE HEARING, OF COURSE, SPIN FROM BOTH SIDES SAYING SPIN FROM BOTH SIDES SAYING THAT THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANTED THAT THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANTED MORE THAN THE OTHER SIDE DID. MORE THAN THE OTHER SIDE DID. ULTIMATELY, AT THE END OF ULTIMATELY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE FACT THAT IT THE DAY, THE FACT THAT IT PASSED IS WHAT WAS PASSED IS WHAT WAS THE PRIORITY. THE PRIORITY. IT WAS A KEY TEST FOR SPEAKER IT WAS A KEY TEST FOR SPEAKER MCCARTHY. MCCARTHY. AT THIS POINT, HE'S HELD ON TO AT THIS POINT, HE'S HELD ON TO HIS JOB AND WAS A KEY TEST FOR HIS JOB AND WAS A KEY TEST FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN TO RALLY ENOUGH PRESIDENT BIDEN TO RALLY ENOUGH DEMOCRATS TO GET IT TO GET PAST DEMOCRATS TO GET IT TO GET PAST THAT KEY HURDLE FOR THEM THAT KEY HURDLE FOR THEM TO VOTE FOR. TO VOTE FOR. TO DIANE. TO DIANE. JAY, SOME REPUBLICANS ARE JAY, SOME REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING MCCARTHY GOT OUTSMARTED SAYING MCCARTHY GOT OUTSMARTED BY WHITE HOUSE NEGOTIATORS. BY WHITE HOUSE NEGOTIATORS. IS HIS JOB AS SPEAKER IN IS HIS JOB AS SPEAKER IN JEOPARDY? JEOPARDY? >> WELL, THAT'S THE QUESTION >> WELL, THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT'S GOING TO HANG OVER THAT'S GOING TO HANG OVER KEVIN MCCARTHY FOR THE NEXT FEW KEVIN MCCARTHY FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, IF NOT MONTHS. WEEKS, IF NOT MONTHS. KEN, BORK, WHO WAS ONE OF THOSE KEN, BORK, WHO WAS ONE OF THOSE DEFIANT NO VOTES, YOU HEARD DEFIANT NO VOTES, YOU HEARD A LITTLE BIT FROM HIM IN A LITTLE BIT FROM HIM IN RACHEL SCOTT THERE GAGGLE RACHEL SCOTT THERE GAGGLE WITH ME AND OTHER REPORTERS WITH ME AND OTHER REPORTERS ON THE STEPS OF THE CAPITOL ON THE STEPS OF THE CAPITOL LAST NIGHT AFTER THAT VOTE , HE LAST NIGHT AFTER THAT VOTE , HE PLEDGED IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS PLEDGED IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT SOMETHING CALLED THE MOTION SOMETHING CALLED THE MOTION TO VACATE THE CHAIR, WHICH IS A TO VACATE THE CHAIR, WHICH IS A CONCESSION THAT MCCARTHY MADE CONCESSION THAT MCCARTHY MADE DURING THE SPEAKER FIGHT DURING THE SPEAKER FIGHT TO MAKE IT EASIER TO KICK HIM TO MAKE IT EASIER TO KICK HIM OUT OF THAT JOB. OUT OF THAT JOB. IT TAKES ONLY ONE MEMBER OF IT TAKES ONLY ONE MEMBER OF THE HOUSE GOP CONFERENCE THE HOUSE GOP CONFERENCE TO COME FORWARD AND CALL A VOTE TO COME FORWARD AND CALL A VOTE TO KICK OUT KEVIN MCCARTHY. TO KICK OUT KEVIN MCCARTHY. BUCK SAID THAT HE AND A FEW OF BUCK SAID THAT HE AND A FEW OF HIS OTHER FURTHER RIGHT HOUSE HIS OTHER FURTHER RIGHT HOUSE REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES ARE REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES ARE INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO THAT. THAT. WHETHER OR NOT THEY FOLLOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY FOLLOW THROUGH IS UNCLEAR, BUT THERE'S THROUGH IS UNCLEAR, BUT THERE'S NOT EVEN UNANIMITY IN THIS IN NOT EVEN UNANIMITY IN THIS IN THE FAR RIGHT PORTION OF THE FAR RIGHT PORTION OF THE REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE THE REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE BECAUSE MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE, BECAUSE MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE, WHO DID SUPPORT THIS DEAL , WHO DID SUPPORT THIS DEAL , SAID SHE DIDN'T LIKE EVERYTHING SAID SHE DIDN'T LIKE EVERYTHING IN IT BUT LIKED CERTAIN PARTS IN IT BUT LIKED CERTAIN PARTS OF IT. OF IT. ALSO GARGLING WITH REPORTERS IN ALSO GARGLING WITH REPORTERS IN THE HOUSE STEPS LAST NIGHT THE HOUSE STEPS LAST NIGHT AND SAID THAT SHE BELIEVES THAT AND SAID THAT SHE BELIEVES THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT BEHIND THE NOTION OF A MOTION BEHIND THE NOTION OF A MOTION TO VACATE THE CHAIR JUST TO VACATE THE CHAIR JUST BECAUSE IT, QUOTE UNQUOTE LOOKS BECAUSE IT, QUOTE UNQUOTE LOOKS GOOD ON TWITTER. GOOD ON TWITTER. >> SO WHETHER OR NOT >> SO WHETHER OR NOT THE REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE THE REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE REALLY GOES THROUGH WITH THAT, REALLY GOES THROUGH WITH THAT, WHETHER OR NOT THOSE HARD WHETHER OR NOT THOSE HARD LINERS WHO WERE THOSE HOLDOUT LINERS WHO WERE THOSE HOLDOUT VOTES LAST NIGHT CARRY THIS VOTES LAST NIGHT CARRY THIS ANGER THAT THEY HAVE OVER THIS ANGER THAT THEY HAVE OVER THIS DEAL INTO THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, DEAL INTO THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, THAT IS VERY MUCH UNCLEAR. THAT IS VERY MUCH UNCLEAR. KEVIN MCCARTHY SAYING KEVIN MCCARTHY SAYING CONSISTENTLY, AS HE SAID LAST CONSISTENTLY, AS HE SAID LAST NIGHT, THAT HE'S NOT CONCERNED NIGHT, THAT HE'S NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT NOW. ABOUT IT NOW. >> ELIZABETH , YOU'VE SPOKEN >> ELIZABETH , YOU'VE SPOKEN WITH EXPERTS WHO SAY THIS IS A WITH EXPERTS WHO SAY THIS IS A SELF-INFLICTED CRISIS. SELF-INFLICTED CRISIS. COULD WE DO AWAY WITH THE DEBT COULD WE DO AWAY WITH THE DEBT LIMIT ALTOGETHER? LIMIT ALTOGETHER? >> WELL, CERTAINLY THERE ARE >> WELL, CERTAINLY THERE ARE GROWING CALLS FOR THAT AS WE'VE GROWING CALLS FOR THAT AS WE'VE GOTTEN CLOSER THAN WE'VE BEEN GOTTEN CLOSER THAN WE'VE BEEN REALLY IN THE PAST. REALLY IN THE PAST. TO THIS DEADLINE OF A DEFAULT. TO THIS DEADLINE OF A DEFAULT. THE BEST CASE STILL IS 2011, THE BEST CASE STILL IS 2011, WHEN THE U.S. GOT TO THAT WHEN THE U.S. GOT TO THAT POINT. POINT. AND AFTERWARD WE SAW THAT AND AFTERWARD WE SAW THAT CREDIT DOWNGRADE. CREDIT DOWNGRADE. SO I HAVE BEEN TALKING SO I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE CHIEF TO PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE CHIEF OF THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY OF THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND, WHO SAID, WHY DOES FUND, WHO SAID, WHY DOES THE U.S. HAVE THIS RESTRAINT? THE U.S. HAVE THIS RESTRAINT? IT'S THE ONLY COUNTRY IN IT'S THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT HAS THIS. THE WORLD THAT HAS THIS. IT IS TIME TO GET RID OF IT. IT IS TIME TO GET RID OF IT. THE PRESIDENT SAID HE'D THE PRESIDENT SAID HE'D CONSIDER THE 14TH AMENDMENT CONSIDER THE 14TH AMENDMENT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE TO BYPASS MAYBE IN THE FUTURE TO BYPASS IT TO DIANE. IT TO DIANE. ALL RIGHT, ELIZABETH , CHELSIE, ALL RIGHT, ELIZABETH , CHELSIE, BRIAN , THANK YOU BOTH. BRIAN , THANK YOU BOTH. >> SO WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN >> SO WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN FOR THE ECONOMY? FOR THE ECONOMY? BUSINESS REPORTER BUSINESS REPORTER ALEXIS CHRISTOFOROUS JOINS ME ALEXIS CHRISTOFOROUS JOINS ME NOW TO BREAK DOWN THAT SIDE OF NOW TO BREAK DOWN THAT SIDE OF THINGS. THINGS. ALEXIS , THE CONGRESSIONAL ALEXIS , THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE NOW SAYS THAT BUDGET OFFICE NOW SAYS THAT THE STRICTER WORK REQUIREMENTS THE STRICTER WORK REQUIREMENTS THAT REPUBLICANS DEMANDED IN THAT REPUBLICANS DEMANDED IN THIS DEAL COULD ACTUALLY COST THIS DEAL COULD ACTUALLY COST US MORE MONEY, COULD MAKE US MORE MONEY, COULD MAKE MORE PEOPLE ELIGIBLE FOR MORE PEOPLE ELIGIBLE FOR BENEFITS. BENEFITS. TALK US THROUGH THAT ASPECT OF TALK US THROUGH THAT ASPECT OF THINGS. THINGS. REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING THAT REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING THAT THIS IS FLAT OUT INACCURATE. THIS IS FLAT OUT INACCURATE. >> SO WHAT'S THE TRUTH HERE? >> SO WHAT'S THE TRUTH HERE? RIGHT. RIGHT. WELL, WE'RE STILL TRYING WELL, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO SIFT THROUGH ALL THAT. TO SIFT THROUGH ALL THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT OTHER SOCIAL SERVICE CLEAR THAT OTHER SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAMS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY, PROGRAMS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE AND MEDICAID ARE MEDICARE AND MEDICAID ARE UNTOUCHED BY THIS DEBT UNTOUCHED BY THIS DEBT DEAL WHEN IT COMES TO THE FOOD DEAL WHEN IT COMES TO THE FOOD STAMPS OR THE SNAP PROGRAM, STAMPS OR THE SNAP PROGRAM, THIS DEAL WOULD MAKE IT HARDER THIS DEAL WOULD MAKE IT HARDER FOR SOME OLDER AMERICANS TO FOR SOME OLDER AMERICANS TO QUALIFY FOR FOOD ASSISTANCE, QUALIFY FOR FOOD ASSISTANCE, BUT IT WOULD ACTUALLY EXEMPT BUT IT WOULD ACTUALLY EXEMPT VETERANS, HOMELESS PEOPLE VETERANS, HOMELESS PEOPLE AND YOUNG ADULTS WHO ARE AND YOUNG ADULTS WHO ARE TRANSITIONING FROM FOSTER CARE, TRANSITIONING FROM FOSTER CARE, WHICH COULD ACTUALLY MEAN THAT WHICH COULD ACTUALLY MEAN THAT MORE AMERICANS, IRONICALLY, MORE AMERICANS, IRONICALLY, QUALIFY FOR FOOD STAMPS. QUALIFY FOR FOOD STAMPS. SO THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET SO THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE IS INDEPENDENT, OFFICE IS INDEPENDENT, NONPARTISAN. NONPARTISAN. THEY DID AN ANALYSIS ON THIS THEY DID AN ANALYSIS ON THIS AND FOUND THAT IT WOULD AND FOUND THAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ACTUALLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE GETTING FOOD ASSISTANCE PEOPLE GETTING FOOD ASSISTANCE BY EIGHTY THOUSAND, INCREASE BY EIGHTY THOUSAND, INCREASE THE COST BY MORE THAN THE COST BY MORE THAN TWO BILLION DOLLARS. TWO BILLION DOLLARS. KEVIN MCCARTHY IS SAYING THAT KEVIN MCCARTHY IS SAYING THAT THE CBO IS WRONG AND THAT THE CBO IS WRONG AND THAT THEY DOUBLE COUNTED THE CBO HAS THEY DOUBLE COUNTED THE CBO HAS NOT RESPONDED TO THAT. NOT RESPONDED TO THAT. NOW, THE CBO ALSO SAYS NOW, THE CBO ALSO SAYS RESCINDING FUNDS FOR THE IRS RESCINDING FUNDS FOR THE IRS WOULD MEAN LESS ENFORCEMENT WOULD MEAN LESS ENFORCEMENT AND AS A RESULT, LESS REVENUE. AND AS A RESULT, LESS REVENUE. SO HOW MUCH DOES THAT MOVE SO HOW MUCH DOES THAT MOVE ACTUALLY SAVE US ? ACTUALLY SAVE US ? I THINK IN THE SHORT TERM, I THINK IN THE SHORT TERM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY FEEL WE'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY FEEL THE EFFECTS. THE EFFECTS. REMEMBER, THIS WAS A HOT BUTTON REMEMBER, THIS WAS A HOT BUTTON TOPIC WHEN IT WAS ENACTED LAST TOPIC WHEN IT WAS ENACTED LAST YEAR, 80 BILLION DOLLARS FOR YEAR, 80 BILLION DOLLARS FOR THE IRS AND FEDERAL FUNDING. THE IRS AND FEDERAL FUNDING. THEY RECEIVED A LITTLE BIT OF THEY RECEIVED A LITTLE BIT OF THAT LAST YEAR. THAT LAST YEAR. AND WE ALREADY SAW LOTS OF AND WE ALREADY SAW LOTS OF CHANGES. CHANGES. THEY WERE ABLE TO UPDATE THEY WERE ABLE TO UPDATE SOME OF THEIR OUTDATED SOME OF THEIR OUTDATED TECHNOLOGY. TECHNOLOGY. I THINK THINGS WERE A LOT I THINK THINGS WERE A LOT SMOOTHER THIS YEAR. SMOOTHER THIS YEAR. FOR TAXPAYERS THAN IN RECENT FOR TAXPAYERS THAN IN RECENT YEARS. YEARS. >> SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF IN >> SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF IN LATER YEARS THE IRS IS GOING LATER YEARS THE IRS IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT AND ASK FOR GOVERNMENT AND ASK FOR MORE MONEY. MORE MONEY. BUT OVERALL, CONSERVATIVE BUT OVERALL, CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING THAT REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING THAT THIS BILL DOES NOT CUT ENOUGH THIS BILL DOES NOT CUT ENOUGH OUT OF THE BUDGET. OUT OF THE BUDGET. BASICALLY, DIANE , WE'RE BASICALLY, DIANE , WE'RE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. YOU AND I MAY BE TALKING ABOUT YOU AND I MAY BE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME ISSUES AND END OF THE SAME ISSUES AND END OF TWENTY , TWENTY FOUR . TWENTY , TWENTY FOUR . SO THEY WANT TO GET PAST SO THEY WANT TO GET PAST THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, BUT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, BUT THIS REALLY DOESN'T SOLVE THIS REALLY DOESN'T SOLVE THE LONG TERM ISSUE. THE LONG TERM ISSUE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEY KEEP US BUSY, AT WELL, THEY KEEP US BUSY, AT LEAST THAT'S TRUE. LEAST THAT'S TRUE. THANK YOU . THANK YOU . AND SOURCES TELL ABC NEWS AND SOURCES TELL ABC NEWS FEDERAL PROSECUTORS HAVE FEDERAL PROSECUTORS HAVE OBTAINED A NEW AUDIO RECORDING OBTAINED A NEW AUDIO RECORDING OF PRESIDENT TRUMP. OF PRESIDENT TRUMP. THEY SAY IN THE RECORDING, THEY SAY IN THE RECORDING, THE FORMER THE FORMER PRESIDENT ACKNOWLEDGES HE KEPT PRESIDENT ACKNOWLEDGES HE KEPT A CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT AFTER A CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT AFTER LEAVING OFFICE, INDICATING HE LEAVING OFFICE, INDICATING HE KNEW THE DOCUMENT IN QUESTION KNEW THE DOCUMENT IN QUESTION WAS SECRET. WAS SECRET. RECORDING COULD BE A KEY PIECE RECORDING COULD BE A KEY PIECE OF EVIDENCE AND SPECIAL COUNSEL OF EVIDENCE AND SPECIAL COUNSEL JACK SMITH'S INVESTIGATION INTO JACK SMITH'S INVESTIGATION INTO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. DOCUMENTS. CHIEF JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT CHIEF JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT PIERRE THOMAS HAS MORE . PIERRE THOMAS HAS MORE . >> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP >> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HEADING INTO A RADIO INTERVIEW HEADING INTO A RADIO INTERVIEW IN DES MOINES AS NEWS BREAKS IN DES MOINES AS NEWS BREAKS ABOUT HIS ALLEGED HANDLING OF ABOUT HIS ALLEGED HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. FEDERAL PROSECUTORS HAVE FEDERAL PROSECUTORS HAVE OBTAINED AN AUDIO RECORDING OF OBTAINED AN AUDIO RECORDING OF TRUMP ALLEGEDLY ACKNOWLEDGING TRUMP ALLEGEDLY ACKNOWLEDGING HE KEPT A CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT HE KEPT A CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT ABOUT A POSSIBLE ATTACK ABOUT A POSSIBLE ATTACK ON IRAN. ON IRAN. ACCORDING TO SOURCES FAMILIAR ACCORDING TO SOURCES FAMILIAR WITH THE INVESTIGATION. WITH THE INVESTIGATION. THE RECORDING, SOURCES SAID , THE RECORDING, SOURCES SAID , WAS MADE DURING A JULY 20 21 WAS MADE DURING A JULY 20 21 MEETING AND HIS BED MR. CLUB, MEETING AND HIS BED MR. CLUB, THAT SHOULD HELP WITH TWO THAT SHOULD HELP WITH TWO PEOPLE WHO WERE HELPING FORMER PEOPLE WHO WERE HELPING FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF MARK MEADOWS CHIEF OF STAFF MARK MEADOWS WITH HIS BOOK, THE CHIEFS. WITH HIS BOOK, THE CHIEFS. CHIEF TRUMP ALLEGEDLY INDICATED CHIEF TRUMP ALLEGEDLY INDICATED DURING THE RECORDING HE DURING THE RECORDING HE KNEW THE DOCUMENT IN QUESTION KNEW THE DOCUMENT IN QUESTION WAS SECRET. WAS SECRET. SOURCES SAID THE SOURCES SAID THE ALLEGED RECORDING COULD BE A ALLEGED RECORDING COULD BE A CRUCIAL PIECE OF EVIDENCE CRUCIAL PIECE OF EVIDENCE AS THE SPECIAL COUNSEL ASSESSES AS THE SPECIAL COUNSEL ASSESSES WHETHER TRUMP VIOLATED ANY WHETHER TRUMP VIOLATED ANY FEDERAL LAWS OR PUT NATIONAL FEDERAL LAWS OR PUT NATIONAL SECURITY AT RISK. SECURITY AT RISK. THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAS THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAS INSISTED THAT THE DOCUMENTS INSISTED THAT THE DOCUMENTS WERE AUTOMATICALLY WERE AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED, SAYING THIS AT DECLASSIFIED, SAYING THIS AT A TOWN HALL JUST LAST MONTH. A TOWN HALL JUST LAST MONTH. >> DID YOU EVER SHOW THOSE >> DID YOU EVER SHOW THOSE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS TO ANYONE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS TO ANYONE ? ? NOT REALLY. NOT REALLY. I WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUY I WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUY THE WAY THEY WERE. THE WAY THEY WERE. >> NOT THAT I CAN THINK OF. >> NOT THAT I CAN THINK OF. ACCORDING TO SOURCES FAMILIAR ACCORDING TO SOURCES FAMILIAR WITH THE INVESTIGATION, WITH THE INVESTIGATION, WITNESSES AND SPECIAL COUNSEL WITNESSES AND SPECIAL COUNSEL JACK SMITH'S PROBE HAVE BEEN JACK SMITH'S PROBE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONED ABOUT THE RECORDING. QUESTIONED ABOUT THE RECORDING. MEADOW'S WAS NOT PRESENT FOR MEADOW'S WAS NOT PRESENT FOR THE JULY 20 21 MEETING, BUT THE JULY 20 21 MEETING, BUT SOURCES SAID OTHER TRUMP AIDES SOURCES SAID OTHER TRUMP AIDES ,INCLUDING MARCO MARTIN, WERE ,INCLUDING MARCO MARTIN, WERE THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE DECLINED TO COMMENT DECLINED TO COMMENT ON THE RECORDING, WHICH ON THE RECORDING, WHICH ABC NEWS DOES NOT LISTEN TO , ABC NEWS DOES NOT LISTEN TO , NOR OBTAINED. NOR OBTAINED. TRUMP CAN ALLEGEDLY BE HEARD TRUMP CAN ALLEGEDLY BE HEARD ATTACKING THE JOINT CHIEFS OF ATTACKING THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF GEN.. STAFF GEN.. MARK MILLEY AND REFERENCE MARK MILLEY AND REFERENCE ONE DOCUMENT IN PARTICULAR THAT ONE DOCUMENT IN PARTICULAR THAT TRUMP CLAIMS HE HAD COMPILED TRUMP CLAIMS HE HAD COMPILED OVERNIGHT. OVERNIGHT. >> TRUMP'S SPOKESPERSON SLAMMED >> TRUMP'S SPOKESPERSON SLAMMED THE NEW REPORTING, SAYING IT THE NEW REPORTING, SAYING IT WAS ALL LEAKS FROM RADICAL WAS ALL LEAKS FROM RADICAL PARTIZANS ENGAGING IN PARTIZANS ENGAGING IN POLITICAL PERSECUTION. POLITICAL PERSECUTION. DIANE , BILL THOMAS, THANK DIANE , BILL THOMAS, THANK YOU . YOU . >> AND MORE THAN 16000 >> AND MORE THAN 16000 RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN ORDERED RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO EVACUATE IN NOVA SCOTIA, TO EVACUATE IN NOVA SCOTIA, CANADA, AMID UNPRECEDENTED CANADA, AMID UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES. WILDFIRES. THE FIRES ARE SO BIG THE FIRES ARE SO BIG THEY'RE SENDING SMOKE INTO THEY'RE SENDING SMOKE INTO THE U.S. AS FAR SOUTH THE U.S. AS FAR SOUTH AS WASHINGTON, DC. AS WASHINGTON, DC. >> STEPHANIE RAMOS HAS >> STEPHANIE RAMOS HAS MORE THIS MORNING. MORE THIS MORNING. UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES RAGING UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES RAGING ACROSS EASTERN CANADA FOR ACROSS EASTERN CANADA FOR A FIFTH DAY. A FIFTH DAY. MORE THAN 16000 NOVA SCOTIA MORE THAN 16000 NOVA SCOTIA IS UNDER EVACUATION ORDERS, IS UNDER EVACUATION ORDERS, HUNDREDS OF STRUCTURES GUTTED HUNDREDS OF STRUCTURES GUTTED BY FIRES, RISK WATERS. BY FIRES, RISK WATERS. HIS FOUR CHILDREN AND DOG FLED HIS FOUR CHILDREN AND DOG FLED THEIR HOME. THEIR HOME. HE SAYS HE'S NERVOUSLY WATCHING HE SAYS HE'S NERVOUSLY WATCHING HIS HOME FROM HIS DOORBELL HIS HOME FROM HIS DOORBELL CAMERA. CAMERA. >> THIS WASN'T A COMMUNITY. >> THIS WASN'T A COMMUNITY. >> HE WAS USED TO . >> HE WAS USED TO . WILDFIRES TOTAL WILDFIRES TOTAL AND UNSEASONABLY WARM AND DRY. AND UNSEASONABLY WARM AND DRY. SPRING HAS FUELED THE FIRES SPRING HAS FUELED THE FIRES THAT HAVE NOW SCORCHED ROUGHLY THAT HAVE NOW SCORCHED ROUGHLY 77 SQUARE MILES, NOT EVEN WORTH 77 SQUARE MILES, NOT EVEN WORTH A MAN. A MAN. THAT'S NEARLY TWICE AS MUCH OF THAT'S NEARLY TWICE AS MUCH OF THE PREVIOUS RECORD SET THE PREVIOUS RECORD SET 47 YEARS AGO. 47 YEARS AGO. >> EVERY DAY THAT >> EVERY DAY THAT THE TEMPERATURE GOES UP THE TEMPERATURE GOES UP AND EVERY DAY THAT THE WINDS AND EVERY DAY THAT THE WINDS ARE SIGNIFICANT ALLOWS THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANT ALLOWS THOSE FUELS TO BECOME MORE AND FUELS TO BECOME MORE AND MORE VOLATILE. MORE VOLATILE. >> NOW, SMOKE IS SHIFTING >> NOW, SMOKE IS SHIFTING SOUTH, PROMPTING AIR QUALITY SOUTH, PROMPTING AIR QUALITY ALERTS IN NEW ENGLAND, EXPECTED ALERTS IN NEW ENGLAND, EXPECTED TO GO AS FAR SOUTH AS D.C. TO GO AS FAR SOUTH AS D.C. FIRE OFFICIALS WERE HOPING FOR. FIRE OFFICIALS WERE HOPING FOR. A BREAK IN THE DRY, WINDY A BREAK IN THE DRY, WINDY WEATHER. WEATHER. BUT THAT'S NOT FORECAST BUT THAT'S NOT FORECAST TO HAPPEN UNTIL FRIDAY EVENING TO HAPPEN UNTIL FRIDAY EVENING AT THE EARLIEST. AT THE EARLIEST. I AM ALL RIGHT. I AM ALL RIGHT. >> STEPHANIE RAMOS IN NOVA >> STEPHANIE RAMOS IN NOVA SCOTIA, THANK YOU . SCOTIA, THANK YOU . AND A SUSPECTED SERIAL KILLER AND A SUSPECTED SERIAL KILLER IN TEXAS IS NOW IN CUSTODY. IN TEXAS IS NOW IN CUSTODY. POLICE ARE INVESTIGATING POLICE ARE INVESTIGATING WHETHER HE COULD BE LINKED WHETHER HE COULD BE LINKED TO UP TO 10 COLD CASES DATING TO UP TO 10 COLD CASES DATING BACK TO NINETEEN NINETY SIX . BACK TO NINETEEN NINETY SIX . >> ABC NEWS MIREYA VILLARREAL >> ABC NEWS MIREYA VILLARREAL HAS THE LATEST U.S. MARSHALS HAS THE LATEST U.S. MARSHALS CONFIRMING NEW DETAILS AFTER AN CONFIRMING NEW DETAILS AFTER AN URGENT MANHUNT FOR COLD CASES. URGENT MANHUNT FOR COLD CASES. SUSPECTED SERIAL KILLER SUSPECTED SERIAL KILLER RAUL MEZA FAUCI RETURNS TO A RAUL MEZA FAUCI RETURNS TO A RAUL MEZA JUNIOR RAUL MEZA RAUL MEZA JUNIOR RAUL MEZA ROOMMATE, RETIRED PAROLE ROOMMATE, RETIRED PAROLE OFFICER JESSA FRAGA FOUND OFFICER JESSA FRAGA FOUND FATALLY STABBED IN HIS HOME FATALLY STABBED IN HIS HOME NORTH OF AUSTIN MORE THAN NORTH OF AUSTIN MORE THAN A WEEK TO GO. A WEEK TO GO. INVESTIGATORS SAY WHILE INVESTIGATORS SAY WHILE RAUL MEZA WAS ON THE RUN, HE RAUL MEZA WAS ON THE RUN, HE CALLED DETECTIVES AND IN A 14 CALLED DETECTIVES AND IN A 14 MINUTE CONVERSATION DETAILED MINUTE CONVERSATION DETAILED HOW HE ALLEGEDLY MURDERED HOW HE ALLEGEDLY MURDERED THE 80 YEAR OLD. THE 80 YEAR OLD. >> THEY SAY HE ALSO ADMITTED >> THEY SAY HE ALSO ADMITTED TO KILLING 65 YEAR OLD TO KILLING 65 YEAR OLD GLORIA LOFTON FOUR YEARS AGO. GLORIA LOFTON FOUR YEARS AGO. DNA AT HER HOME WAS LINKED DNA AT HER HOME WAS LINKED TO RAUL MEZA WHEN THE FEDERAL TO RAUL MEZA WHEN THE FEDERAL POLICE DEPARTMENT PUT THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT PUT THIS INDIVIDUAL ON THE NEWS AS A INDIVIDUAL ON THE NEWS AS A PERSON OF INTEREST. PERSON OF INTEREST. IT DREW SOME TIPS. IT DREW SOME TIPS. >> AND YOU GO FROM ONE TIP >> AND YOU GO FROM ONE TIP TO THE NEXT, A FUGITIVE TASK TO THE NEXT, A FUGITIVE TASK FORCE TRACKED DOWN MEIXELL FORCE TRACKED DOWN MEIXELL ON MEMORIAL DAY IN NORTH AUSTIN ON MEMORIAL DAY IN NORTH AUSTIN . . THEY SAY HE WAS RIDING A BIKE THEY SAY HE WAS RIDING A BIKE AND CARRYING A BAG WITH ZIP AND CARRYING A BAG WITH ZIP TIES. TIES. A FLASHLIGHT, A GUN A FLASHLIGHT, A GUN AND MULTIPLE ROUNDS INSIDE. AND MULTIPLE ROUNDS INSIDE. MR. MEZA SAID HE WAS READY MR. MEZA SAID HE WAS READY AND PREPARED TO KILL AGAIN. AND PREPARED TO KILL AGAIN. AND HE WAS LOOKING FORWARD AND HE WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. TO IT. >> THE 62 YEAR OLD, ALREADY >> THE 62 YEAR OLD, ALREADY A CONVICTED MURDERER WITH A A CONVICTED MURDERER WITH A RECORD OF VIOLENT CRIME IN RECORD OF VIOLENT CRIME IN 1982, HE WAS SENTENCED TO 30 1982, HE WAS SENTENCED TO 30 YEARS IN PRISON FOR KILLING YEARS IN PRISON FOR KILLING A THIRD GRADER, KENDRA PAGE, A THIRD GRADER, KENDRA PAGE, BUT SERVED JUST 11 YEARS. BUT SERVED JUST 11 YEARS. >> KENDRA'S OLDER SISTER >> KENDRA'S OLDER SISTER TELLING US IT'S JUST IT'S BEEN TELLING US IT'S JUST IT'S BEEN ROUGH, ROUGH COUPLE OF WEEKS, ROUGH, ROUGH COUPLE OF WEEKS, MOTIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IS NOW MOTIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IS NOW INVESTIGATING WHETHER MESA INVESTIGATING WHETHER MESA COULD BE CONNECTED TO UP TO 10 COULD BE CONNECTED TO UP TO 10 COLD CASES IN THIS AREA DATING COLD CASES IN THIS AREA DATING ALL THE WAY BACK TO NINETEEN ALL THE WAY BACK TO NINETEEN NINETY SIX . NINETY SIX . THE PAIGE FAMILY FOUGHT FOR THE PAIGE FAMILY FOUGHT FOR DECADES TO TRY AND KEEP HIM IN DECADES TO TRY AND KEEP HIM IN PRISON. PRISON. AND WHEN HE WAS RELEASED, TRACI AND WHEN HE WAS RELEASED, TRACI PAIGE TELLS US SHE WAS SCARED PAIGE TELLS US SHE WAS SCARED THAT HE WOULD BE COMING THAT HE WOULD BE COMING BACK TO LIVE IN THIS AREA. BACK TO LIVE IN THIS AREA. SHE TELLS US SHE IS DEVASTATED SHE TELLS US SHE IS DEVASTATED FOR THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE LOST FOR THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE LOST LOVED ONES DIANE . LOVED ONES DIANE . >> ALL RIGHT, MIREYA VILLARREAL >> ALL RIGHT, MIREYA VILLARREAL THANK YOU . THANK YOU . >> AND MEMBERS OF NASA ARE >> AND MEMBERS OF NASA ARE PUSHING FOR THE GOVERNMENT PUSHING FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO COLLECT BETTER DATA ON UFOS TO COLLECT BETTER DATA ON UFOS . . THE PANEL OF SCIENTISTS THE PANEL OF SCIENTISTS AND OTHER EXPERTS SAYS IT AND OTHER EXPERTS SAYS IT REVIEWED MORE THAN 800 REPORTS REVIEWED MORE THAN 800 REPORTS OF MYSTERIOUS SIGHTINGS OF MYSTERIOUS SIGHTINGS AND THAT TWO TO FIVE PERCENT OF AND THAT TWO TO FIVE PERCENT OF INCIDENTS CANNOT BE EXPLAINED. INCIDENTS CANNOT BE EXPLAINED. ABC NEWS RHIANNON ALLY HAS ABC NEWS RHIANNON ALLY HAS MORE . MORE . NASA WANTS TO MAKE IT NASA WANTS TO MAKE IT CLEAR IT'S NOT HIDING ANYTHING CLEAR IT'S NOT HIDING ANYTHING DURING ITS FIRST PUBLIC MEETING DURING ITS FIRST PUBLIC MEETING ON UFOS, THIS PANEL OF ON UFOS, THIS PANEL OF SCIENTISTS AND EXPERTS REVEALED SCIENTISTS AND EXPERTS REVEALED IT HAS REVIEWED MORE THAN 800 IT HAS REVIEWED MORE THAN 800 CASES OF REPORTED UNIDENTIFIED CASES OF REPORTED UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA, OR UAP, ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA, OR UAP, WITH MORE COMING IN ALL WITH MORE COMING IN ALL THE TIME. THE TIME. >> IT'S ANYWHERE FROM FROM >> IT'S ANYWHERE FROM FROM 50 TO 100 NEW REPORTS A MONTH. 50 TO 100 NEW REPORTS A MONTH. >> BUT MOST CAN BE EXPLAINED. >> BUT MOST CAN BE EXPLAINED. FORMER ASTRONAUT SCOTT KELLY , FORMER ASTRONAUT SCOTT KELLY , WHO SPENT NEARLY A YEAR IN WHO SPENT NEARLY A YEAR IN SPACE GIVING THIS ACCOUNT OF SPACE GIVING THIS ACCOUNT OF HIS EXPERIENCE WITH THE UAP HIS EXPERIENCE WITH THE UAP WHILE FLYING AN F 14 GUYING WHILE FLYING AN F 14 GUYING THAT SITS IN THE BACK OF THAT SITS IN THE BACK OF THE TOMCAT, WAS CONVINCED WE THE TOMCAT, WAS CONVINCED WE FLEW BY A UFO. FLEW BY A UFO. WE WENT TO GO LOOK AT IT. WE WENT TO GO LOOK AT IT. >> TURNS OUT IT WAS BART >> TURNS OUT IT WAS BART SIMPSON, A BALLOON. SIMPSON, A BALLOON. AND THEN THERE'S THE CASE OF AND THEN THERE'S THE CASE OF RESEARCHERS IN AUSTRALIA RESEARCHERS IN AUSTRALIA PICKING UP BURSTS OF MYSTERIOUS PICKING UP BURSTS OF MYSTERIOUS RADIO WAVES. RADIO WAVES. BUT IT WASN'T ALIENS, IT WAS BUT IT WASN'T ALIENS, IT WAS LUNCH. LUNCH. >> PEOPLE AT THE OBSERVATORY >> PEOPLE AT THE OBSERVATORY WOULD HEAT UP THEIR LUNCH IN WOULD HEAT UP THEIR LUNCH IN THE MICROWAVE AND SOMETHING THE MICROWAVE AND SOMETHING THEY WOULD DO IS THEY WOULD THEY WOULD DO IS THEY WOULD OPEN THE DOOR OF THE MICROWAVE OPEN THE DOOR OF THE MICROWAVE OVEN BEFORE THE MICROWAVE OVEN BEFORE THE MICROWAVE STOPPED. STOPPED. IT PRODUCED A BURST OF RADIO IT PRODUCED A BURST OF RADIO SIGNAL THAT WAS PICKED UP SIGNAL THAT WAS PICKED UP BY THESE SENSITIVE DETECTORS. BY THESE SENSITIVE DETECTORS. >> THE PANEL SAYS TWO TO >> THE PANEL SAYS TWO TO FIVE PERCENT OF INCIDENTS FIVE PERCENT OF INCIDENTS CANNOT BE EXPLAINED. CANNOT BE EXPLAINED. SO THEY'RE PUSHING FOR SO THEY'RE PUSHING FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO COLLECT THE GOVERNMENT TO COLLECT BETTER DATA. BETTER DATA. A PENTAGON OFFICIAL SAYS A PENTAGON OFFICIAL SAYS THEY ARE NOW BUILDING THEY ARE NOW BUILDING NEW SENSORS TO BETTER DETECT NEW SENSORS TO BETTER DETECT AND INVESTIGATE UAP DEDICATED AND INVESTIGATE UAP DEDICATED SENSORS THAT WE'VE PURPOSED SENSORS THAT WE'VE PURPOSED DESIGNED TO DETECT, TRACK DESIGNED TO DETECT, TRACK AND CHARACTERIZE THOSE AND CHARACTERIZE THOSE PARTICULAR OBJECTS. PARTICULAR OBJECTS. >> NASA INSISTS DESPITE >> NASA INSISTS DESPITE CONSPIRACY THEORIES, IT NEVER CONSPIRACY THEORIES, IT NEVER HAD A UFO STUDY GROUP BEFORE. HAD A UFO STUDY GROUP BEFORE. THIS HOUR, THANKS THIS HOUR, THANKS TO RHIANNON ALLY FOR THAT TO RHIANNON ALLY FOR THAT REPORT, COMING UP, THAT 70S REPORT, COMING UP, THAT 70S SHOW STAR DANNY MASTERSON SHOW STAR DANNY MASTERSON CONVICTED OF RAPING TWO WOMEN. CONVICTED OF RAPING TWO WOMEN. HOW LONG HE COULD SPEND BEHIND HOW LONG HE COULD SPEND BEHIND BARS. BARS. ALSO AHEAD, A WOMAN'S CLOSE ALSO AHEAD, A WOMAN'S CLOSE CALL AFTER TRYING TO PET CALL AFTER TRYING TO PET A BISON AT YELLOWSTONE. A BISON AT YELLOWSTONE. A NEW WARNING ABOUT A DANGEROUS A NEW WARNING ABOUT A DANGEROUS PATTERN AT OUR NATIONAL PARKS PATTERN AT OUR NATIONAL PARKS WHEN WE COME BACK . WHEN WE COME BACK . LE DIFFERENT. LE DIFFERENT. >> EARLY MORNING >> EARLY MORNING ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". >> WELCOME BACK. >> WELCOME BACK. THAT 70S SHOW STAR DANNY THAT 70S SHOW STAR DANNY MASTERSON IS FACING UP TO 30 MASTERSON IS FACING UP TO 30 YEARS IN PRISON AFTER BEING YEARS IN PRISON AFTER BEING CONVICTED ON TWO COUNTS OF AT CONVICTED ON TWO COUNTS OF AT HIS RETRIAL. HIS RETRIAL. HIS FIRST TRIAL ENDED IN HIS FIRST TRIAL ENDED IN A DEADLOCKED JURY IN NOVEMBER. A DEADLOCKED JURY IN NOVEMBER. NOW, SOME ONE OF HIS VICTIMS NOW, SOME ONE OF HIS VICTIMS SAYS THE VERDICT BRINGS HER SAYS THE VERDICT BRINGS HER RELIEF. RELIEF. ABC NEWS DEMARCO MORGAN HAS ABC NEWS DEMARCO MORGAN HAS THE LATEST. THE LATEST. >> THAT 70S SHOW STAR DANNY >> THAT 70S SHOW STAR DANNY MASTERSON IS WAKING UP BEHIND MASTERSON IS WAKING UP BEHIND BARS AFTER BEING FOUND GUILTY BARS AFTER BEING FOUND GUILTY OF ASSAULTING TWO WOMEN. OF ASSAULTING TWO WOMEN. >> DO YOU THINK THE ACTOR >> DO YOU THINK THE ACTOR FACING 30 YEARS IN PRISON, FACING 30 YEARS IN PRISON, THE JUDGE ORDERED HIM TO BE THE JUDGE ORDERED HIM TO BE DETAINED, CALLING HIM A FLIGHT DETAINED, CALLING HIM A FLIGHT RISK AFTER A JURY FOUND HIM RISK AFTER A JURY FOUND HIM GUILTY OF TWO WOMEN IN GUILTY OF TWO WOMEN IN THE EARLY 2000S, BUT WERE THE EARLY 2000S, BUT WERE DEADLOCKED ON THE CHARGE OF DEADLOCKED ON THE CHARGE OF ANOTHER ASSAULT ACCUSATION MADE ANOTHER ASSAULT ACCUSATION MADE BY A THIRD WOMAN. BY A THIRD WOMAN. THE WOMAN CLAIMED THE ACTOR THE WOMAN CLAIMED THE ACTOR ABUSED THEM IN SEPARATE ABUSED THEM IN SEPARATE INCIDENTS BETWEEN 2001 AND TWIN INCIDENTS BETWEEN 2001 AND TWIN AND THREE WHILE HE WAS STARRING AND THREE WHILE HE WAS STARRING ON THE HIT SITCOM TEACHERS LIKE ON THE HIT SITCOM TEACHERS LIKE THEM, THE COUNSELORS LIKE THEM. THEM, THE COUNSELORS LIKE THEM. >> EVERYBODY LIKES TO HATE >> EVERYBODY LIKES TO HATE THEM. THEM. AT THE TIME, ALL OF THE WOMEN AT THE TIME, ALL OF THE WOMEN AND MASTERSON WERE PRACTICING AND MASTERSON WERE PRACTICING MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY. SCIENTOLOGY. HIS ACCUSERS SAY THEY WERE HIS ACCUSERS SAY THEY WERE INITIALLY HESITANT TO COME INITIALLY HESITANT TO COME FORWARD AND FEAR OF RETRIBUTION FORWARD AND FEAR OF RETRIBUTION FROM THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY. FROM THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY. THE CHURCH PREVIOUSLY TELLING THE CHURCH PREVIOUSLY TELLING ABC NEWS THEY ARE NOT A PARTY ABC NEWS THEY ARE NOT A PARTY TO THIS CASE AND THERE IS NO TO THIS CASE AND THERE IS NO POLICY PROHIBITING OR POLICY PROHIBITING OR DISCOURAGING MEMBERS FROM DISCOURAGING MEMBERS FROM REPORTING CRIMINAL CONDUCT. REPORTING CRIMINAL CONDUCT. TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE CHURCH SAYS IT DEMANDS ALL THE CHURCH SAYS IT DEMANDS ALL MEMBERS ABIDE BY ALL LAWS OF MEMBERS ABIDE BY ALL LAWS OF THE LAND. THE LAND. >> FOR YEARS, THE CHURCH HAS >> FOR YEARS, THE CHURCH HAS FACED INTENSE SCRUTINY OVER FACED INTENSE SCRUTINY OVER ALLEGATIONS IT HAS HARASSED ALLEGATIONS IT HAS HARASSED SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT THE ORGANIZATION, WHICH THE ORGANIZATION, WHICH THE CHURCH DENIES AS FALSE THE CHURCH DENIES AS FALSE CLAIMS FROM DISGRUNTLED FORMER CLAIMS FROM DISGRUNTLED FORMER MEMBERS. MEMBERS. THE WOMEN ARGUE THAT MASTERSON THE WOMEN ARGUE THAT MASTERSON USED HIS PROMINENCE WITHIN USED HIS PROMINENCE WITHIN SCIENTOLOGY TO AVOID SCIENTOLOGY TO AVOID CONSEQUENCES FOR HIS ACTIONS. CONSEQUENCES FOR HIS ACTIONS. >> ACCUSATIONS OF MASS SIN HAS >> ACCUSATIONS OF MASS SIN HAS VEHEMENTLY DENIED OUR THANKS VEHEMENTLY DENIED OUR THANKS TO DEMARCO. TO DEMARCO. MORGAN MASTERSON HAS NOT MORGAN MASTERSON HAS NOT COMMENTED ON THE VERDICT. COMMENTED ON THE VERDICT. >> HIS NEXT HEARING IS SET FOR >> HIS NEXT HEARING IS SET FOR AUGUST 4TH. AUGUST 4TH. COMING UP, CONVICTED DOUBLE COMING UP, CONVICTED DOUBLE MURDERER ALEX MURDAUGH BACK IN MURDERER ALEX MURDAUGH BACK IN COURT HERE. COURT HERE. THE NEW FEDERAL CHARGES THE NEW FEDERAL CHARGES HE'S FACING AND WHAT COMES NEXT HE'S FACING AND WHAT COMES NEXT . . AND UP NEXT, A WOMAN'S CLOSE AND UP NEXT, A WOMAN'S CLOSE CALL AFTER TRYING TO PET CALL AFTER TRYING TO PET A BISON AT YELLOWSTONE. A BISON AT YELLOWSTONE. A NEW WARNING ABOUT A DANGEROUS A NEW WARNING ABOUT A DANGEROUS PATTERN AT PATTERN AT WHEREVER THE STORY IS , WHEREVER THE STORY IS , WE'LL TAKE YOU THERE. WE'LL TAKE YOU THERE. YOU'RE STREAMING YOU'RE STREAMING "ABC NEWS LIVE". "ABC NEWS LIVE". >> WELCOME BACK. >> WELCOME BACK. IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT A CLOSE IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT A CLOSE CALL AT YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL CALL AT YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK. PARK. A WOMAN TRIED TO TOUCH A BISON A WOMAN TRIED TO TOUCH A BISON WHILE POSING FOR A PHOTO WHEN WHILE POSING FOR A PHOTO WHEN THE ANIMAL LUNGED AT HER THE ANIMAL LUNGED AT HER ABC NEWS TREVORAULT HAS MORE . ABC NEWS TREVORAULT HAS MORE . THE CLOSE ENCOUNTER IN CLOSE THE CLOSE ENCOUNTER IN CLOSE CALL IN YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL CALL IN YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK. PARK. WATCH AS THIS WOMAN POSES FOR WATCH AS THIS WOMAN POSES FOR A PHOTO TRYING TO TOUCH A WILD A PHOTO TRYING TO TOUCH A WILD BISON WHEN IT LUNGES FOR HER BISON WHEN IT LUNGES FOR HER AS PREPARING TO CHARGE THAT AS PREPARING TO CHARGE THAT WOMAN RUSHING HER WAY. WOMAN RUSHING HER WAY. TRIPPING IS THANKFULLY, TRIPPING IS THANKFULLY, THE BISON STAYS BACK . THE BISON STAYS BACK . IT'S PART OF WHAT WILDLIFE IT'S PART OF WHAT WILDLIFE EXPERTS WARN IS A DANGEROUS EXPERTS WARN IS A DANGEROUS PATTERN AT NATIONAL PARKS. PATTERN AT NATIONAL PARKS. BUT WHAT WE SEE IN THIS FOOTAGE BUT WHAT WE SEE IN THIS FOOTAGE IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR FEAR PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR FEAR AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEIR RESPECT. THEIR RESPECT. FOR POWERFUL ANIMALS, INCLUDING FOR POWERFUL ANIMALS, INCLUDING IN A PLACE AS PRESTIGIOUS IN A PLACE AS PRESTIGIOUS AND AS IMPORTANT AS A NATIONAL AND AS IMPORTANT AS A NATIONAL PARK. PARK. >> THIS VIDEO SHOWS ANOTHER >> THIS VIDEO SHOWS ANOTHER YELLOWSTONE TOURIST GETTING YELLOWSTONE TOURIST GETTING DANGEROUSLY CLOSE FOR A SELFIE DANGEROUSLY CLOSE FOR A SELFIE WHILE THIS BISON DOESN'T REACT, WHILE THIS BISON DOESN'T REACT, YELLOWSTONE OFFICIALS SAY THERE YELLOWSTONE OFFICIALS SAY THERE ARE USUALLY MULTIPLE BISON ARE USUALLY MULTIPLE BISON ATTACKS EACH YEAR. ATTACKS EACH YEAR. THESE CREATURES CAN WEIGH 2000 THESE CREATURES CAN WEIGH 2000 POUNDS AND RUN POUNDS AND RUN THIRTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR, THIRTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR, EASILY TOSSING A HUMAN LIKE EASILY TOSSING A HUMAN LIKE A RAG DOLL OF LAST YEAR, THIS A RAG DOLL OF LAST YEAR, THIS TEXAS WOMAN TRYING TO SNEAK TEXAS WOMAN TRYING TO SNEAK BY A BISON WAS GORED IN BY A BISON WAS GORED IN THE BACK, SPENDING SIX DAYS IN THE BACK, SPENDING SIX DAYS IN THE HOSPITAL. THE HOSPITAL. THEY'VE GOT THAT GREAT MANSEL THEY'VE GOT THAT GREAT MANSEL FORMS. FORMS. AND THE LAST THING YOU WANT AND THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS TANGLE WITH THOSE TO DO IS TANGLE WITH THOSE HORNS. HORNS. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED BY BISON WHEN THEY VIOLATE THIS BY BISON WHEN THEY VIOLATE THIS CREATURE SPACE . CREATURE SPACE . >> THE BOTTOM LINE, YOU CAN'T >> THE BOTTOM LINE, YOU CAN'T AND SHOULD ENJOY THE WILDLIFE, AND SHOULD ENJOY THE WILDLIFE, BUT FROM A SAFE DISTANCE, USING BUT FROM A SAFE DISTANCE, USING COMMON SENSE, GET THAT AMAZING COMMON SENSE, GET THAT AMAZING PHOTO OR VIDEO, BUT ALSO PHOTO OR VIDEO, BUT ALSO BE CAREFUL. BE CAREFUL. >> YOU'RE IN THEIR SPACE. >> YOU'RE IN THEIR SPACE. THIS IS WILD COUNTRY. THIS IS WILD COUNTRY. OUR THANKS TO TREVORAULT FOR OUR THANKS TO TREVORAULT FOR THAT REPORT. THAT REPORT. >> OFFICIALS SAY IN A NATIONAL >> OFFICIALS SAY IN A NATIONAL PARK, BISON REQUIRE AT LEAST PARK, BISON REQUIRE AT LEAST SEVENTY FIVE FEET OF SPACE . SEVENTY FIVE FEET OF SPACE . IF YOU'RE CLOSER THAN THAT, IF YOU'RE CLOSER THAN THAT, YOU'RE NOT JUST PUTTING YOU'RE NOT JUST PUTTING YOURSELF AT RISK. YOURSELF AT RISK. >> YOU'RE ALSO BREAKING THE LAW >> YOU'RE ALSO BREAKING THE LAW . . >> COMING UP, THE NEW PRIVACY >> COMING UP, THE NEW PRIVACY COMPLAINT AGAINST AMAZON. COMPLAINT AGAINST AMAZON. THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS CLAIMING THE TECH GIANT KEPT IS CLAIMING THE TECH GIANT KEPT VOICE RECORDINGS FOR YEARS. VOICE RECORDINGS FOR YEARS. ALSO AHEAD, THE BIG NEWS FOR ALSO AHEAD, THE BIG NEWS FOR AND THE CITY FANS. AND THE CITY FANS. SAMANTHA IS MAKING A COMEBACK SAMANTHA IS MAKING A COMEBACK WITH WHAT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT WITH WHAT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT KIM CATTRALL. KIM CATTRALL. CAMEO IN THE NEW SEASON OF. CAMEO IN THE NEW SEASON OF. AND JUST LIKE THAT, L AND JUST LIKE THAT, L A LITTLE DIFFERENT. A LITTLE DIFFERENT. >> EARLY MORNINGS >> EARLY MORNINGS ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". WELCOME BACK TO ABC NEWS. WELCOME BACK TO ABC NEWS. THANKS FOR STARTING ME WITH US. THANKS FOR STARTING ME WITH US. YOU'RE LOOKING AT PHILADELPHIA YOU'RE LOOKING AT PHILADELPHIA ON THIS THURSDAY AND WE HAVE ON THIS THURSDAY AND WE HAVE A LOT OF NEWS TO GET TO . A LOT OF NEWS TO GET TO . HERE'S A RUNDOWN RIGHT NOW. HERE'S A RUNDOWN RIGHT NOW. CONGRESS IS ONE STEP CLOSER CONGRESS IS ONE STEP CLOSER TO AVERTING A POTENTIAL U.S. TO AVERTING A POTENTIAL U.S. DEFAULT AFTER THE HOUSE PASSED DEFAULT AFTER THE HOUSE PASSED A DEAL TO RAISE THE DEBT A DEAL TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING. CEILING. A MAJORITY OF HOUSE REPUBLICANS A MAJORITY OF HOUSE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS SUPPORTED AND DEMOCRATS SUPPORTED THE DEAL BROKERED BY HOUSE THE DEAL BROKERED BY HOUSE SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY AND PRESIDENT BIDEN. AND PRESIDENT BIDEN. THE BILL CLAWS BACK BILLIONS IN THE BILL CLAWS BACK BILLIONS IN IRS AND UNSPENT COVID FUNDS IRS AND UNSPENT COVID FUNDS AND IMPOSES NEW WORK AND IMPOSES NEW WORK REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME OLDER REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME OLDER AMERICANS RECEIVING FOOD AMERICANS RECEIVING FOOD ASSISTANCE. ASSISTANCE. NOW IT'S HEADED TO THE SENATE NOW IT'S HEADED TO THE SENATE WITH JUST FOUR DAYS LEFT BEFORE WITH JUST FOUR DAYS LEFT BEFORE POTENTIAL DEFAULT, SEARCH POTENTIAL DEFAULT, SEARCH AND RESCUE EFFORTS ARE AND RESCUE EFFORTS ARE INTENSIFYING IN DAVENPORT, INTENSIFYING IN DAVENPORT, IOWA, AFTER AN APARTMENT IOWA, AFTER AN APARTMENT BUILDING PARTIALLY COLLAPSED. BUILDING PARTIALLY COLLAPSED. OFFICIALS SAY TWO PEOPLE ARE OFFICIALS SAY TWO PEOPLE ARE STILL TRAPPED INSIDE AND THAT STILL TRAPPED INSIDE AND THAT THE WHOLE STRUCTURE COULD THE WHOLE STRUCTURE COULD COLLAPSE AT ANY MOMENT. COLLAPSE AT ANY MOMENT. THE CAUSE OF THE COLLAPSE THE CAUSE OF THE COLLAPSE IS UNDER INVESTIGATION. IS UNDER INVESTIGATION. DOCUMENTS RELEASED BY THE CITY DOCUMENTS RELEASED BY THE CITY SHOW A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER SHOW A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER INSPECTED THE BUILDING INSPECTED THE BUILDING AND FOUND IT WAS SAFE FOR AND FOUND IT WAS SAFE FOR RESIDENTS AND PRIDE MONTH RESIDENTS AND PRIDE MONTH IS KICKING OFF WITH A MAJOR IS KICKING OFF WITH A MAJOR FIRST. FIRST. LATVIA HAS ELECTED ITS FIRST LATVIA HAS ELECTED ITS FIRST OPENLY GAY PRESIDENT , EDGARS. OPENLY GAY PRESIDENT , EDGARS. REYKJAVIK'S CAME OUT NEARLY REYKJAVIK'S CAME OUT NEARLY A DECADE AGO WHILE SERVING A DECADE AGO WHILE SERVING AS THE NATION'S FOREIGN AS THE NATION'S FOREIGN MINISTER. MINISTER. HE'LL BECOME THE FIRST HE'LL BECOME THE FIRST OPENLY GAY HEAD OF STATE IN OPENLY GAY HEAD OF STATE IN THE EUROPEAN UNION WHEN THE EUROPEAN UNION WHEN HE'S INAUGURATED ON JULY HE'S INAUGURATED ON JULY EIGHT . EIGHT . >> AMAZON HAS AGREED TO PAY >> AMAZON HAS AGREED TO PAY TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SETTLEMENTS AFTER TWO FEDERAL SETTLEMENTS AFTER TWO FEDERAL PRIVACY LAWSUITS. PRIVACY LAWSUITS. LAWSUITS ACCUSE THE COMPANY OF LAWSUITS ACCUSE THE COMPANY OF UNLAWFULLY STORING VOICE UNLAWFULLY STORING VOICE RECORDINGS FROM ALEKSA DEVICES RECORDINGS FROM ALEKSA DEVICES AND MISHANDLING ACCESS TO RING AND MISHANDLING ACCESS TO RING DOORBELL CAMERAS. DOORBELL CAMERAS. ABC NEWS WHIT JOHNSON HAS ABC NEWS WHIT JOHNSON HAS THE LATEST. THE LATEST. >> AMAZON, >> AMAZON, ACCUSED OF SACRIFICING PRIVACY ACCUSED OF SACRIFICING PRIVACY FOR PROFITS THROUGH ITS ALEXA FOR PROFITS THROUGH ITS ALEXA VOICE ASSISTANT AND RING VOICE ASSISTANT AND RING DOORBELL CAMERAS. DOORBELL CAMERAS. THE TECH GIANT AGREEING TO PAY THE TECH GIANT AGREEING TO PAY MORE THAN 30 MILLION DOLLARS IN MORE THAN 30 MILLION DOLLARS IN CUSTOMER REFUNDS AND FINES CUSTOMER REFUNDS AND FINES AFTER TWO FEDERAL LAWSUITS OVER AFTER TWO FEDERAL LAWSUITS OVER ALLEGED VIOLATIONS. ALLEGED VIOLATIONS. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, ON BEHALF OF THE FTC, CLAIMING ON BEHALF OF THE FTC, CLAIMING THAT FOR YEARS AMAZON KEPT THAT FOR YEARS AMAZON KEPT ALEXA VOICE RECORDINGS FROM ALEXA VOICE RECORDINGS FROM BOTH ADULTS AND CHILDREN UNDER BOTH ADULTS AND CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 13 , CALLING THE AGE OF 13 , CALLING THE PRACTICE UNLAWFUL, A FILING THE PRACTICE UNLAWFUL, A FILING STATING THAT AMAZON VIOLATED STATING THAT AMAZON VIOLATED THE CHILDREN'S ONLINE PRIVACY THE CHILDREN'S ONLINE PRIVACY PROTECTION ACT RULE PROTECTION ACT RULE AND DECEIVED PARENTS AND USERS AND DECEIVED PARENTS AND USERS OF THE ALEXA VOICE ASSISTANT OF THE ALEXA VOICE ASSISTANT SERVICE ABOUT ITS DATA DELETION SERVICE ABOUT ITS DATA DELETION PRACTICES. PRACTICES. >> THE DOJ ALSO TOOK AIM AT >> THE DOJ ALSO TOOK AIM AT RING SECURITY CAMERAS, ALLEGING RING SECURITY CAMERAS, ALLEGING THE COMPANY GAVE EVERY EMPLOYEE THE COMPANY GAVE EVERY EMPLOYEE FULL ACCESS TO EVERY CUSTOMER. FULL ACCESS TO EVERY CUSTOMER. VIDEO SAYING THAT BEFORE JULY VIDEO SAYING THAT BEFORE JULY 2017, RING DID NOT IMPOSE ANY 2017, RING DID NOT IMPOSE ANY TECHNICAL OR PROCEDURAL TECHNICAL OR PROCEDURAL RESTRICTIONS ON EMPLOYEES RESTRICTIONS ON EMPLOYEES ABILITY TO DOWNLOAD, SAVE OR ABILITY TO DOWNLOAD, SAVE OR TRANSFER CUSTOMERS VIDEOS. TRANSFER CUSTOMERS VIDEOS. AND THE LAWSUIT CLAIMED THAT AND THE LAWSUIT CLAIMED THAT DUE TO FAILURES TO IMPLEMENT DUE TO FAILURES TO IMPLEMENT BASIC PRIVACY AND SECURITY BASIC PRIVACY AND SECURITY PROTECTIONS, HACKERS WERE ABLE PROTECTIONS, HACKERS WERE ABLE TO ACCESS THE CAMERAS OF TO ACCESS THE CAMERAS OF MORE THAN 55000 U.S. CUSTOMERS MORE THAN 55000 U.S. CUSTOMERS . . >> I'M YOUR BEST FRIEND. >> I'M YOUR BEST FRIEND. I'M SANTA CLAUS. I'M SANTA CLAUS. AT TIMES TAUNTING RESIDENTS AT TIMES TAUNTING RESIDENTS WITH THEIR RING CAMERAS SYSTEMS WITH THEIR RING CAMERAS SYSTEMS . . WHAT'S UP,? WHAT'S UP,? I STILL SEE YOU . I STILL SEE YOU . AMAZON FIRING BACK THE AMAZON FIRING BACK THE COMPLAINTS, SAYING IN COMPLAINTS, SAYING IN A STATEMENT TO ABC NEWS. A STATEMENT TO ABC NEWS. WHILE WE DISAGREE WITH THE FTC, WHILE WE DISAGREE WITH THE FTC, HIS CLAIMS REGARDING BOTH ALEXA HIS CLAIMS REGARDING BOTH ALEXA AND RING AND DENY VIOLATING AND RING AND DENY VIOLATING THE LAW. THE LAW. THESE SETTLEMENTS PUT THESE THESE SETTLEMENTS PUT THESE MATTERS BEHIND US . MATTERS BEHIND US . UNDER THE PROPOSED ALEXA COURT UNDER THE PROPOSED ALEXA COURT ORDER, AMAZON WILL BE REQUIRED ORDER, AMAZON WILL BE REQUIRED TO DELETE ALL INACTIVE CHILD TO DELETE ALL INACTIVE CHILD ACCOUNTS, INCLUDING VOICE ACCOUNTS, INCLUDING VOICE RECORDINGS. RECORDINGS. AND IN THE RING CASE, THE TECH AND IN THE RING CASE, THE TECH GIANT MUST PAY MILLIONS IN GIANT MUST PAY MILLIONS IN CUSTOMER REFUNDS AND DELETE CUSTOMER REFUNDS AND DELETE CERTAIN VIDEOS PRIOR TO WHEN IT CERTAIN VIDEOS PRIOR TO WHEN IT ACQUIRED A COMPANY. ACQUIRED A COMPANY. >> BACK IN 2018, >> BACK IN 2018, DIANE WHIT JOHNSON, THANK YOU . DIANE WHIT JOHNSON, THANK YOU . AND ALEC MURDOCH HAS PLEADED AND ALEC MURDOCH HAS PLEADED NOT GUILTY TO TWENTY NOT GUILTY TO TWENTY TWO FEDERAL CHARGES, INCLUDING TWO FEDERAL CHARGES, INCLUDING WIRE FRAUD AND MONEY WIRE FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING. LAUNDERING. THE ONCE PROMINENT SOUTH THE ONCE PROMINENT SOUTH CAROLINA ATTORNEY APPEARED IN CAROLINA ATTORNEY APPEARED IN COURT YESTERDAY FOR THE FIRST COURT YESTERDAY FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE HE WAS TIME SINCE HE WAS CONVICTED OF MURDERING HIS WIFE CONVICTED OF MURDERING HIS WIFE AND SON. AND SON. HIS LAWYERS SAY HE'S BEEN HIS LAWYERS SAY HE'S BEEN COOPERATING WITH THE FEDERAL COOPERATING WITH THE FEDERAL INVESTIGATION AND THAT HIS PLEA INVESTIGATION AND THAT HIS PLEA COULD SOON CHANGE. COULD SOON CHANGE. >> EVA PILGRIM HAS THE LATEST >> EVA PILGRIM HAS THE LATEST CONVICTED MURDERER, CONVICTED MURDERER, ALEC MURDOCH, BACK IN FRONT OF ALEC MURDOCH, BACK IN FRONT OF A JUDGE FOR THE FIRST TIME A JUDGE FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE HE WAS FOUND GUILTY OF SINCE HE WAS FOUND GUILTY OF KILLING HIS WIFE, MAGGIE , KILLING HIS WIFE, MAGGIE , AND SON PAUL AT THEIR HOME IN AND SON PAUL AT THEIR HOME IN SOUTH CAROLINA. SOUTH CAROLINA. THE DISGRACED LAWYER PLEADING THE DISGRACED LAWYER PLEADING NOT GUILTY TO FEDERAL CHARGES. NOT GUILTY TO FEDERAL CHARGES. TWENTY TWO NEW COUNTS, TWENTY TWO NEW COUNTS, INCLUDING BANK FRAUD, WIRE INCLUDING BANK FRAUD, WIRE FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING. FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING. HIS LAWYERS INDICATING THAT HIS LAWYERS INDICATING THAT PLEA WILL CHANGE. PLEA WILL CHANGE. BUT WHEN OUR AFFILIATE WSB BUT WHEN OUR AFFILIATE WSB ASKED WHEN THAT COULD HAPPEN, ASKED WHEN THAT COULD HAPPEN, HIS ATTORNEY REFUSING TO ANSWER HIS ATTORNEY REFUSING TO ANSWER . . I KNOW YOU GUYS SAID YOU I KNOW YOU GUYS SAID YOU RESERVED THE RIGHT TO CHANGE RESERVED THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE PLEA. THE PLEA. WHAT KIND OF TIME FRAME MIGHT WHAT KIND OF TIME FRAME MIGHT YOU BE LOOKING AT FOR THAT? YOU BE LOOKING AT FOR THAT? WE BELIEVE THE COMMENTS SHOULD WE BELIEVE THE COMMENTS SHOULD BE CONSTRAINED IN THE COURTROOM BE CONSTRAINED IN THE COURTROOM LINSEY DAVIS THE CHARGES LINSEY DAVIS THE CHARGES INVOLVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF INVOLVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF MONEY. MONEY. MURDOCH HAS PREVIOUSLY ADMITTED MURDOCH HAS PREVIOUSLY ADMITTED HE TOOK FROM CLIENTS AND FAMILY HE TOOK FROM CLIENTS AND FAMILY FRIENDS, INCLUDING FUNDS FOR FRIENDS, INCLUDING FUNDS FOR THE CHILDREN OF HIS LONGTIME THE CHILDREN OF HIS LONGTIME HOUSEKEEPER, GLORIA HOUSEKEEPER, GLORIA SATTERFIELD, WHO DIED SATTERFIELD, WHO DIED ON MAR-A-LAGO PROPERTY. ON MAR-A-LAGO PROPERTY. I LIED TO HIS FAMILY. I LIED TO HIS FAMILY. THESE NEW FEDERAL CHARGES, IN THESE NEW FEDERAL CHARGES, IN ADDITION TO THE NEARLY ADDITION TO THE NEARLY ONE HUNDRED OTHER CHARGES ONE HUNDRED OTHER CHARGES HE'S ALREADY FACING FOR HE'S ALREADY FACING FOR FINANCIAL CRIMES, THE ATTORNEY FINANCIAL CRIMES, THE ATTORNEY FOR SATTERFIELD'S SON BLASTING FOR SATTERFIELD'S SON BLASTING MURDOCH. MURDOCH. >> THIS MAN SHOWS NO CONTRITION >> THIS MAN SHOWS NO CONTRITION EVERY TIME IT COMES TIME FOR EVERY TIME IT COMES TIME FOR ALEX TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY, ALEX TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY, WE GET NOT GUILTY. WE GET NOT GUILTY. BUT HE'S GOING TO HAVE BUT HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER FOR EVERYTHING TO ANSWER FOR EVERYTHING HE'S DONE. HE'S DONE. >> NASSER ATTA DID EVENTUALLY >> NASSER ATTA DID EVENTUALLY GET A SETTLEMENT AND THE GET A SETTLEMENT AND THE AFTERMATH OF ALL THIS COMING AFTERMATH OF ALL THIS COMING TO LIGHT. TO LIGHT. MEANWHILE, MURDOCH'S LEGAL TEAM MEANWHILE, MURDOCH'S LEGAL TEAM CONTINUES TO SAY THEY EXPECT CONTINUES TO SAY THEY EXPECT THESE NEW CHARGES WILL BE THESE NEW CHARGES WILL BE RESOLVED AND THEY DON'T EXPECT RESOLVED AND THEY DON'T EXPECT THIS FEDERAL CASE TO GO THIS FEDERAL CASE TO GO TO TRIAL. TO TRIAL. >> DIANE EVA PILGRIM, THANK >> DIANE EVA PILGRIM, THANK YOU , AND ABC NEWS LEGAL YOU , AND ABC NEWS LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR, HOST AT THE LONG CONTRIBUTOR, HOST AT THE LONG CRIME NETWORK, BRIMBLECOMBE CRIME NETWORK, BRIMBLECOMBE JOINS ME NOW FOR MORE ON THIS JOINS ME NOW FOR MORE ON THIS BRIAN . BRIAN . ALEC , MURDOCH ADMITTED TO SOME ALEC , MURDOCH ADMITTED TO SOME OF THESE FINANCIAL CRIMES OF THESE FINANCIAL CRIMES DURING HIS TESTIMONY IN DURING HIS TESTIMONY IN THE MURDER CASE. THE MURDER CASE. >> SO WHY PLEAD NOT GUILTY NOW? >> SO WHY PLEAD NOT GUILTY NOW? THEY THINK THAT THEY'RE WAITING THEY THINK THAT THEY'RE WAITING FOR SOMETHING HE DOESN'T HAVE FOR SOMETHING HE DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF LEVERAGE TO NEGOTIATE. A LOT OF LEVERAGE TO NEGOTIATE. I THINK AT THE BEST, I THINK AT THE BEST, HE'S HOPING THAT HE CAN REDUCE HE'S HOPING THAT HE CAN REDUCE HIS SENTENCE AND PROBABLY SPEND HIS SENTENCE AND PROBABLY SPEND MOST, IF NOT ALL, OF HIS JAIL MOST, IF NOT ALL, OF HIS JAIL TIME FOR BOTH THE STATE TIME FOR BOTH THE STATE AND FEDERAL CASES IN AND FEDERAL CASES IN THE FEDERAL PENITENTIARY. THE FEDERAL PENITENTIARY. TYPICALLY, THE FEDERAL TYPICALLY, THE FEDERAL DETENTION CENTERS OR PRISONS DETENTION CENTERS OR PRISONS ARE A LOT BETTER THAN THOSE OF ARE A LOT BETTER THAN THOSE OF STATE. STATE. AND I WOULD SAY AND I WOULD SAY THEY'RE PROBABLY ABSOLUTELY THEY'RE PROBABLY ABSOLUTELY BETTER THAN THAT OF SOUTH BETTER THAN THAT OF SOUTH CAROLINA PRISONS. CAROLINA PRISONS. >> BRIAN , HIS ATTORNEYS HAVE >> BRIAN , HIS ATTORNEYS HAVE HINTED THAT HIS PLEA MIGHT HINTED THAT HIS PLEA MIGHT CHANGE. CHANGE. SO WHAT'S THE STRATEGY? SO WHAT'S THE STRATEGY? THEY CONTINUE TO PLEAD NOT THEY CONTINUE TO PLEAD NOT GUILTY AS THEY TRY TO NEGOTIATE GUILTY AS THEY TRY TO NEGOTIATE A PLEA DEAL IN THE BACKGROUND? A PLEA DEAL IN THE BACKGROUND? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S PERFECT. THAT'S PERFECT. THAT'S WHY ONE DAY YOU'RE NOT THAT'S WHY ONE DAY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO A TRIAL TOGETHER. GOING TO DO A TRIAL TOGETHER. THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT ALL THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT ALL THE EGGS IN ONE BASKET TO TRY THE EGGS IN ONE BASKET TO TRY TO RESOLVE THIS ALL AT ONCE. TO RESOLVE THIS ALL AT ONCE. THERE ARE THE STATE FINANCIAL THERE ARE THE STATE FINANCIAL CRIMES ARE THE FEDERAL CRIMES ARE THE FEDERAL FINANCIAL CRIMES. FINANCIAL CRIMES. THERE ARE CIVIL CASES. THERE ARE CIVIL CASES. AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS RESOLVE ALL OF THESE IS RESOLVE ALL OF THESE CRIMINAL CASES TO CREATE CRIMINAL CASES TO CREATE AS LITTLE, IF NOT A MINIMAL AS LITTLE, IF NOT A MINIMAL EXPOSURE TO THE CIVIL CASES. EXPOSURE TO THE CIVIL CASES. AND BEFORE THEY CAN RESOLVE AND BEFORE THEY CAN RESOLVE ONE , THEY HAVE TO FIGURE ONE , THEY HAVE TO FIGURE HOW TO SOLVE ALL OTHERS BEFORE HOW TO SOLVE ALL OTHERS BEFORE HE STARTS TAKING GUILTY PLEAS. HE STARTS TAKING GUILTY PLEAS. AND HOW LONG CAN THAT STRATEGY AND HOW LONG CAN THAT STRATEGY GO ON? GO ON? CONVICT THEY TAKE THIS ALL CONVICT THEY TAKE THIS ALL THE WAY TO A VERDICT WHILE THE WAY TO A VERDICT WHILE HOPING TO BROKER A DEAL LIKE HOPING TO BROKER A DEAL LIKE THIS CHEMICALLY. THIS CHEMICALLY. >> SPEAKING, IT'S NOT THE WORST >> SPEAKING, IT'S NOT THE WORST STRATEGY IN THE WORLD. STRATEGY IN THE WORLD. THIS STRATEGY CAN BE KICKED THIS STRATEGY CAN BE KICKED DOWN THE PATH UP UNTIL PROBABLY DOWN THE PATH UP UNTIL PROBABLY A JURY IS SELECTED. A JURY IS SELECTED. WE'VE OFTEN SEEN TRIALS WHERE WE'VE OFTEN SEEN TRIALS WHERE ON THE VERGE OF TRIAL ON THE VERGE OF TRIAL AND ELEVENTH HOUR A PLEA AND ELEVENTH HOUR A PLEA IS STRUCK BECAUSE IS STRUCK BECAUSE THE PROSECUTION DOESN'T WANT THE PROSECUTION DOESN'T WANT TO DRAG IN ALL OF TO DRAG IN ALL OF THEIR WITNESSES AND HAVE THEIR WITNESSES AND HAVE TESTIMONY AFTER TESTIMONY PROVE TESTIMONY AFTER TESTIMONY PROVE WE ALL PRETTY MUCH KNOW. WE ALL PRETTY MUCH KNOW. AND WHEN ALEC MURDOCH ALL BUT AND WHEN ALEC MURDOCH ALL BUT TESTIFY TO IN HIS STATE DOUBLE TESTIFY TO IN HIS STATE DOUBLE MURDER TRIAL, HIS ATTORNEYS MURDER TRIAL, HIS ATTORNEYS HAVE ALSO SAID THEY DON'T HAVE ALSO SAID THEY DON'T BELIEVE THIS FEDERAL CASE BELIEVE THIS FEDERAL CASE WILL EVEN GO TO TRIAL. WILL EVEN GO TO TRIAL. WHY IS THAT? WHY IS THAT? >> DO THEY THINK THEY'LL REACH >> DO THEY THINK THEY'LL REACH A DEAL BEFORE THEN? A DEAL BEFORE THEN? ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK FOR THE PROSECUTION, I THINK FOR THE PROSECUTION, THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE ALL THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE CARDS IN THEIR HANDS. THE CARDS IN THEIR HANDS. THE DEFENSE HAS TO COME THE DEFENSE HAS TO COME TO THEM. TO THEM. AND I DON'T THINK THE DEFENSE AND I DON'T THINK THE DEFENSE HAS ENOUGH LEVERAGE TO MAKE ANY HAS ENOUGH LEVERAGE TO MAKE ANY KIND OF REAL ARGUMENTS OTHER KIND OF REAL ARGUMENTS OTHER THAN, HEY, IF HE TAKES HIS THAN, HEY, IF HE TAKES HIS PLEA, CAN HE STAY IN THIS PLEA, CAN HE STAY IN THIS FACILITY? FACILITY? HEY, IF HE TAKES HIS PLEA, HEY, IF HE TAKES HIS PLEA, HE'S GOT INFORMATION THAT HE HE'S GOT INFORMATION THAT HE CAN GIVE YOU. CAN GIVE YOU. IS THIS INFORMATION WORTH IS THIS INFORMATION WORTH ENOUGH TO YOU TO GIVE US WHAT ENOUGH TO YOU TO GIVE US WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR? WE'RE ASKING FOR? THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER REASON THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER REASON AS TO WHY THE DELAY HE MIGHT AS TO WHY THE DELAY HE MIGHT BE GIVING INFORMATION, BECAUSE BE GIVING INFORMATION, BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING THAT WE'RE HEARING THAT HE'S COOPERATING WITH THE HE'S COOPERATING WITH THE FEDERAL INVESTIGATION AND THEY FEDERAL INVESTIGATION AND THEY MIGHT BE SEEN AS TO WHETHER OR MIGHT BE SEEN AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT INFORMATION NOT THAT INFORMATION IS VERIFIED OR WHETHER OR NOT IS VERIFIED OR WHETHER OR NOT IT'S VALUABLE ENOUGH TO GIVE IT'S VALUABLE ENOUGH TO GIVE ALEC MURDOCH ANY KIND OF DEAL , ALEC MURDOCH ANY KIND OF DEAL , LET ALONE THE ONE HE'S ASKING LET ALONE THE ONE HE'S ASKING FOR. FOR. >> AND BRIAN, HE'S STILL FACING >> AND BRIAN, HE'S STILL FACING NINETY NINE STATE CHARGES FOR NINETY NINE STATE CHARGES FOR ALLEGED FINANCIAL CRIMES. ALLEGED FINANCIAL CRIMES. >> SO WHAT'S THE LATEST ON THAT >> SO WHAT'S THE LATEST ON THAT FRONT? FRONT? THOSE ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD THOSE ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD . . MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, AS WE'RE MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, AS WE'RE HEARING MORE ABOUT THE FEDERAL HEARING MORE ABOUT THE FEDERAL CASE, THE STATE CHARGES MAY CASE, THE STATE CHARGES MAY BE LOOKING AT WHAT THE FEDERAL BE LOOKING AT WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DO, BECAUSE WHAT WE GOVERNMENT DO, BECAUSE WHAT WE DID TESTIFY ON THE STAND, DID TESTIFY ON THE STAND, ADMITTING TO MANY OF ADMITTING TO MANY OF THE FINANCIAL CRIMES IN SOUTH THE FINANCIAL CRIMES IN SOUTH CAROLINA, YOU CANNOT USE THE CAROLINA, YOU CANNOT USE THE DEFENDANT'S TESTIMONY FROM DEFENDANT'S TESTIMONY FROM ONE CASE AS WHAT WE CALL ONE CASE AS WHAT WE CALL A CHIEF AND CASE, MEANING A CHIEF AND CASE, MEANING THE PROSECUTOR'S MAIN CASE. THE PROSECUTOR'S MAIN CASE. IN ANOTHER, HE WOULD HAVE IN ANOTHER, HE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE STAND AND THEY CAN TO TAKE THE STAND AND THEY CAN IMPEACH HIM BASED ON WHAT HE IMPEACH HIM BASED ON WHAT HE SAID IN THE FIRST TRIAL. SAID IN THE FIRST TRIAL. BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE TYPES OF THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE TYPES OF RESTRICTIONS. RESTRICTIONS. SO IF THE FEDS CAN GET THEM FOR SO IF THE FEDS CAN GET THEM FOR A GOOD AMOUNT OF JAIL, TIME, A GOOD AMOUNT OF JAIL, TIME, THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA MAY THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA MAY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GOING SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO FOREGO THIS OR MAYBE TO FOREGO THIS OR MAYBE WE'LL ADVANCE THIS CASE IN WE'LL ADVANCE THIS CASE IN A DIFFERENT PATH BECAUSE WHAT'S A DIFFERENT PATH BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE OTHER FEDERAL HAPPENING IN THE OTHER FEDERAL AND THE STATE DOUBLE MURDER AND THE STATE DOUBLE MURDER TRIAL. TRIAL. BUT SPEAKING OF THE DOUBLE BUT SPEAKING OF THE DOUBLE MURDER TRIAL, MURDER IS ALREADY MURDER TRIAL, MURDER IS ALREADY SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON FOR SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON FOR MURDERING HIS WIFE AND SON. MURDERING HIS WIFE AND SON. SO WHY DOES ANY OF THIS REALLY SO WHY DOES ANY OF THIS REALLY MATTER? MATTER? >> THERE'S STILL THE APPEAL. >> THERE'S STILL THE APPEAL. HE'S HOPEFUL THAT HE CAN WIN HE'S HOPEFUL THAT HE CAN WIN THIS CASE. THIS CASE. IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT OF OTHER IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT OF OTHER CASES. CASES. WE FOLLOW. WE FOLLOW. HARVEY WEINSTEIN, WE HAD CASE HARVEY WEINSTEIN, WE HAD CASE UPON CASE A COLD CASE GIVEN UPON CASE A COLD CASE GIVEN CLOSE TO THE ACTUAL COUNTRY CLOSE TO THE ACTUAL COUNTRY WHERE HE'S HOPING THAT HE CAN WHERE HE'S HOPING THAT HE CAN WIN IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THAT WIN IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THAT BATTLE THERE AND NOT HAVE BATTLE THERE AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE CHARGES, TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE CHARGES, THAT THAT SENTENCE AND THEN THAT THAT SENTENCE AND THEN MAYBE PICK APART THE FINANCIAL MAYBE PICK APART THE FINANCIAL CRIMES, REDUCE A LIFE SENTENCE. CRIMES, REDUCE A LIFE SENTENCE. RIGHT NOW, HE'S GOING RIGHT NOW, HE'S GOING TO PROBABLY BE BEHIND BARS FOR TO PROBABLY BE BEHIND BARS FOR THE REST OF HIS NATURAL LIFE. THE REST OF HIS NATURAL LIFE. BUT IF HE CAN TRY TO WIN BUT IF HE CAN TRY TO WIN ONE APPEAL AT A TIME OR ONE APPEAL AT A TIME OR NEGOTIATE A CASE HERE OR THERE, NEGOTIATE A CASE HERE OR THERE, HE'S TRYING TO MAKE SEE HE'S TRYING TO MAKE SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY AND SOME THE LIGHT OF DAY AND SOME DECADES FROM NOW. DECADES FROM NOW. >> ALL RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL BE WATCHING THIS CASE WE WILL BE WATCHING THIS CASE CLOSELY. CLOSELY. BRIAN BUCKMIRE, APPRECIATE BRIAN BUCKMIRE, APPRECIATE YOUR ANALYSIS, AS ALWAYS. YOUR ANALYSIS, AS ALWAYS. >> THANK YOU . >> THANK YOU . COCOUNSEL. COCOUNSEL. >> MY PLEASURE. >> MY PLEASURE. MEANWHILE, TARGET IS MOVING MEANWHILE, TARGET IS MOVING PROBABLY DISPLAYS TO THE PROBABLY DISPLAYS TO THE BACK OF SOME STORES IN RESPONSE BACK OF SOME STORES IN RESPONSE TO THREATS TO EMPLOYEES ABOUT TO THREATS TO EMPLOYEES ABOUT THE PRIDE RELATED GOODS. THE PRIDE RELATED GOODS. THIS COMES AS A NUMBER OF THIS COMES AS A NUMBER OF RETAILERS ARE FACING BACKLASH RETAILERS ARE FACING BACKLASH FOR CELEBRATING PRIDE. FOR CELEBRATING PRIDE. ABC NEWS RHIANNON ALLY HAS ABC NEWS RHIANNON ALLY HAS THE DETAILS. THE DETAILS. >> AS PRIDE MONTH BEGINS, >> AS PRIDE MONTH BEGINS, SOME BUSINESSES THAT HAVE SOME BUSINESSES THAT HAVE TRADITIONALLY EMBRACED TRADITIONALLY EMBRACED THE MONTH TO SHOWCASE THE MONTH TO SHOWCASE EXCLUSIVITY, MAYBE RETOOLING EXCLUSIVITY, MAYBE RETOOLING THEIR STRATEGY. THEIR STRATEGY. >> IF YOU ARE A RETAILER >> IF YOU ARE A RETAILER AND YOU'RE TRYING TO ALIGN AND YOU'RE TRYING TO ALIGN YOURSELF WITH YOUR CUSTOMER YOURSELF WITH YOUR CUSTOMER BASE POLITICALLY OR SOCIALLY, BASE POLITICALLY OR SOCIALLY, OR IN A SOCIAL JUSTICE WAY, OR IN A SOCIAL JUSTICE WAY, YOU ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND YOU ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT. WHAT IS THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT. >> JUST LAST WEEK, TARGET >> JUST LAST WEEK, TARGET PULLING SOME OF ITS PRIZED PULLING SOME OF ITS PRIZED MERCHANDISE FROM ITS STORES MERCHANDISE FROM ITS STORES AFTER REPORTING SOME EMPLOYEES AFTER REPORTING SOME EMPLOYEES EXPERIENCED THREATS FROM EXPERIENCED THREATS FROM CUSTOMERS. CUSTOMERS. TARGET'S DECISION INCITING TARGET'S DECISION INCITING OUTRAGE FROM THE LGBTQ OUTRAGE FROM THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY AND ALLIES, INCLUDING COMMUNITY AND ALLIES, INCLUDING A DESIGNER WHOSE PRODUCTS WERE A DESIGNER WHOSE PRODUCTS WERE PULLED. PULLED. >> IT'S COMPLETELY FINE >> IT'S COMPLETELY FINE TO PROFIT OFF OF US TO STICK TO PROFIT OFF OF US TO STICK WITH THE RAINBOW CAPITALIS WITH THE RAINBOW CAPITALIS AND TO FOCUS ON THE PINK AND TO FOCUS ON THE PINK DOLLAR. DOLLAR. BUT THE SECOND IT GETS HARD, IF BUT THE SECOND IT GETS HARD, IF YOU'RE GOING TO JUMP SHIP, YOU'RE GOING TO JUMP SHIP, THAT'S A VERY DANGEROUS THING THAT'S A VERY DANGEROUS THING TO TELL. TO TELL. PEOPLE. PEOPLE. >> IN RECENT WEEKS, KOHL'S, BUD >> IN RECENT WEEKS, KOHL'S, BUD LIGHT AND THE LOS ANGELES LIGHT AND THE LOS ANGELES DODGERS HAVE EXPERIENCED DODGERS HAVE EXPERIENCED BACKLASH FOR LGBTQ RELATED BACKLASH FOR LGBTQ RELATED MARKETING PROMOTIONS. MARKETING PROMOTIONS. AND THIS WEEK, CHICK FIL A , AND THIS WEEK, CHICK FIL A , WHICH HAS BEEN A DARLING OF WHICH HAS BEEN A DARLING OF SOME ON THE RIGHT, NOW SOME ON THE RIGHT, NOW ACCUSED OF GOING WOKE AFTER ACCUSED OF GOING WOKE AFTER CONSERVATIVES ISSUE WITH THE CONSERVATIVES ISSUE WITH THE HIRING OF A VICE PRESIDENT OF HIRING OF A VICE PRESIDENT OF DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION ,A HIRING WHICH HAPPENED A FEW ,A HIRING WHICH HAPPENED A FEW YEARS AGO. YEARS AGO. WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW IS THAT WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW IS THAT JUST SIMPLY SAYING WE SUPPORT JUST SIMPLY SAYING WE SUPPORT DIVERSITY AND JUST PUTTING DIVERSITY AND JUST PUTTING A PLAN IN ACTION WITHOUT REALLY A PLAN IN ACTION WITHOUT REALLY MAPPING THINGS OUT AND STATING MAPPING THINGS OUT AND STATING EXACTLY WHAT THEY PLAN EXACTLY WHAT THEY PLAN ON DOING. ON DOING. CAN GET BACKLASH. CAN GET BACKLASH. >> TARGET REAFFIRMED ITS >> TARGET REAFFIRMED ITS COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY FOLLOWING THE CONTROVERSY, FOLLOWING THE CONTROVERSY, AND SOME COMPANIES ARE AND SOME COMPANIES ARE DEFENDING THEIR PRIDE CAMPAIGNS DEFENDING THEIR PRIDE CAMPAIGNS . . OUTDOOR RETAILER THE NORTHEAST, OUTDOOR RETAILER THE NORTHEAST, WHICH FACED BACKLASH FOR ITS WHICH FACED BACKLASH FOR ITS PRIDE MONTH AD FEATURING A DRAG PRIDE MONTH AD FEATURING A DRAG QUEEN SAYING THE NORTHEAST HAS QUEEN SAYING THE NORTHEAST HAS ALWAYS BELIEVED THE OUTDOORS ALWAYS BELIEVED THE OUTDOORS SHOULD BE A WELCOMING, SHOULD BE A WELCOMING, EQUITABLE AND SAFE PLACE FOR EQUITABLE AND SAFE PLACE FOR ALL. ALL. OUR THANKS TO RHIANNON ALLY FOR OUR THANKS TO RHIANNON ALLY FOR THAT REPORT. THAT REPORT. WAL-MART SAYS IT HASN'T MADE WAL-MART SAYS IT HASN'T MADE ANY CHANGES TO ITS MERCHANDISE ANY CHANGES TO ITS MERCHANDISE TIED TO PRIDE MONTH. TIED TO PRIDE MONTH. >> COMING UP, THE NEW WARNING >> COMING UP, THE NEW WARNING ABOUT ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME ABOUT ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME COSTING FAMILIES AS MUCH COSTING FAMILIES AS MUCH AS FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR. AS FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR. WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW. WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW. ALSO AHEAD, BIG NEWS FOR AND ALSO AHEAD, BIG NEWS FOR AND THE CITY FANS. THE CITY FANS. SAMANTHA IS MAKING A COMEBACK. SAMANTHA IS MAKING A COMEBACK. WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT KIM WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT KIM CATTRALL AS CAMEO IN THE NEW CATTRALL AS CAMEO IN THE NEW SEASON OF AND JUST LIKE THAT. SEASON OF AND JUST LIKE THAT. WHEN WE COME BACK ,. WHEN WE COME BACK ,. >> DO YOU SEE NIGHT AT TEN NINE >> DO YOU SEE NIGHT AT TEN NINE CENTRAL ON ABC. CENTRAL ON ABC. WELCOME BACK. WELCOME BACK. FEDERAL AUTHORITIES ARE ISSUING FEDERAL AUTHORITIES ARE ISSUING A NEW WARNING ABOUT A SURGE IN A NEW WARNING ABOUT A SURGE IN ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME. ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME. THEY SAY GROUPS OF CRIMINALS THEY SAY GROUPS OF CRIMINALS ARE STEALING HIGH VALUE ITEMS ARE STEALING HIGH VALUE ITEMS TO SELL, COSTING STORES TO SELL, COSTING STORES BILLIONS AND JEOPARDIZING BILLIONS AND JEOPARDIZING PUBLIC SAFETY. PUBLIC SAFETY. >> ABC NEWS ERIELLE RESHEF HAS >> ABC NEWS ERIELLE RESHEF HAS WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW. WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW. YOU'VE SEEN THE VIDEOS OF YOU'VE SEEN THE VIDEOS OF BRAZEN SMASH AND GRAB THAT MANY BRAZEN SMASH AND GRAB THAT MANY DIFFERENT RETAILERS ACROSS DIFFERENT RETAILERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THE COUNTRY. AND FEDERAL AUTHORITIES ARE NOW AND FEDERAL AUTHORITIES ARE NOW SOUNDING THE ALARM ABOUT SOUNDING THE ALARM ABOUT COORDINATED ROBBERIES LIKE COORDINATED ROBBERIES LIKE THESE. THESE. >> IT'S ABSOLUTE THREAT. >> IT'S ABSOLUTE THREAT. >> IT'S CALLED ORGANIZED RETAIL >> IT'S CALLED ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME, WHERE GROUPS OF CRIME, WHERE GROUPS OF CRIMINALS STEAL HIGH VALUE CRIMINALS STEAL HIGH VALUE ITEMS TO THEN SELL ONLINE OR ITEMS TO THEN SELL ONLINE OR ELSEWHERE. ELSEWHERE. >> THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT >> THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT STORES TO HIT, WHEN AND WHERE. STORES TO HIT, WHEN AND WHERE. >> OBVIOUSLY, THE PROFITABILITY >> OBVIOUSLY, THE PROFITABILITY IS THE KEY HERE. IS THE KEY HERE. RETAILERS SAY THIS TYPE OF RETAILERS SAY THIS TYPE OF CRIME IS REACHING UNPRECEDENTED CRIME IS REACHING UNPRECEDENTED LEVELS, FORCING THE AVERAGE LEVELS, FORCING THE AVERAGE FAMILY TO PAY AN ESTIMATED FAMILY TO PAY AN ESTIMATED FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE EACH FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE EACH YEAR ON GOODS. YEAR ON GOODS. >> ARE YOU SEEING A DRAMATIC >> ARE YOU SEEING A DRAMATIC RISE IN THIS TYPE OF CRIME? RISE IN THIS TYPE OF CRIME? ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S GROWING DOUBLE DIGIT YEAR IT'S GROWING DOUBLE DIGIT YEAR OVER YEAR. OVER YEAR. AND HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICIALS AND HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICIALS TELL ABC NEWS THEY NOW SEE TELL ABC NEWS THEY NOW SEE VIOLENT GANGS AND DANGEROUS VIOLENT GANGS AND DANGEROUS INTERNATION GROUPS GETTING INTERNATION GROUPS GETTING INVOLVED. INVOLVED. ORGANIZATIONS SUSPECTED OF TIES ORGANIZATIONS SUSPECTED OF TIES TO DRUG TRAFFICKING OR EVEN TO DRUG TRAFFICKING OR EVEN TERRORISM FINANCING. TERRORISM FINANCING. >> THESE CRIMINAL NETWORKS, >> THESE CRIMINAL NETWORKS, THEY MAY BE FULL TIME DRUG THEY MAY BE FULL TIME DRUG TRAFFICKERS THAT SEE AN TRAFFICKERS THAT SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH A CREW OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH A CREW THAT'S ALREADY STEALING BIG BOX THAT'S ALREADY STEALING BIG BOX RETAILERS LIKE THE HOME DEPOT RETAILERS LIKE THE HOME DEPOT HAVE BEEN HIT ESPECIALLY HARD, HAVE BEEN HIT ESPECIALLY HARD, INVESTIGATING HUNDREDS OF CASES INVESTIGATING HUNDREDS OF CASES AND LOSING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND LOSING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THIS PAST YEAR ALONE. THIS PAST YEAR ALONE. >> THIS IS WHAT REFER TO OUR >> THIS IS WHAT REFER TO OUR BILLION DOLLAR ILLES BILLIONS BILLION DOLLAR ILLES BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF SALES. OF SALES. THIS PRODUCT AND THEN ABOUT THIS PRODUCT AND THEN ABOUT A THIRD OF OUR LOSSES FROM A THIRD OF OUR LOSSES FROM THEFT AND FRAUDS PERSPECTIVE THEFT AND FRAUDS PERSPECTIVE COME FROM, YOU KNOW, POWER COME FROM, YOU KNOW, POWER TOOLS, PARTICULARLY. TOOLS, PARTICULARLY. WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU'VE WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU'VE SEEN SUCH AN UPTICK, PANDEMIC SEEN SUCH AN UPTICK, PANDEMIC ASIDE, WHICH EMBOLDENS ASIDE, WHICH EMBOLDENS SOME PEOPLE WEARING MASKS? SOME PEOPLE WEARING MASKS? OH, THERE'S THE ONLINE OH, THERE'S THE ONLINE PROLIFERATION. PROLIFERATION. ABOUT 90% OF OUR ORGANIZED ABOUT 90% OF OUR ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME CASES INVOLVE RETAIL CRIME CASES INVOLVE SOME TYPE OF ONLINE SELLING SOME TYPE OF ONLINE SELLING PLATFORM OPIOIDS AND FENTANYL PLATFORM OPIOIDS AND FENTANYL CONTINUING TO DRIVE THE NEED CONTINUING TO DRIVE THE NEED FOR FAST CASH . FOR FAST CASH . >> BUT WORRYING THESE STORES >> BUT WORRYING THESE STORES EVEN MORE , THEY SAY THIEVES EVEN MORE , THEY SAY THIEVES ARE GROWING MORE AND ARE GROWING MORE AND MORE VIOLENT, THREATENING MORE VIOLENT, THREATENING EMPLOYEES WITH GUNS, KNIVES, EMPLOYEES WITH GUNS, KNIVES, EVEN A HAMMER. EVEN A HAMMER. HOME DEPOT SAYS IT'S TAKING HOME DEPOT SAYS IT'S TAKING STEPS TO PROTECT ITS WORKERS STEPS TO PROTECT ITS WORKERS AND FIGHT GROWING ORGANIZED AND FIGHT GROWING ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME, SHOWING US NEW RETAIL CRIME, SHOWING US NEW MEASURES. MEASURES. THEY'RE TESTING IN THIS STORE THEY'RE TESTING IN THIS STORE OUTSIDE ATLANTA. OUTSIDE ATLANTA. >> ALARMED GATES INCREASED >> ALARMED GATES INCREASED SURVEILLANCE AND LOCKING UP SURVEILLANCE AND LOCKING UP MERCHANDISE. MERCHANDISE. >> HOW MUCH IS A SCHOOL LIKE >> HOW MUCH IS A SCHOOL LIKE THAT WORTH? THAT WORTH? ANYWHERE FROM A THOUSAND ANYWHERE FROM A THOUSAND TO UPWARD OF ABOUT TO UPWARD OF ABOUT THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS. THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS. >> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK ONE OF >> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK ONE OF THESE FALLS WEIGHS? THESE FALLS WEIGHS? PROBABLY CLOSE. PROBABLY CLOSE. CLOSE TO FIVE HUNDRED. CLOSE TO FIVE HUNDRED. EIGHT HUNDRED POUNDS. EIGHT HUNDRED POUNDS. THEY'LL ROLLING IT OUT, THROW THEY'LL ROLLING IT OUT, THROW IT IN THE BACK OF A PICKUP IT IN THE BACK OF A PICKUP TRUCK OR THE TRUNK OF A CAR. TRUCK OR THE TRUNK OF A CAR. SPEEDING AWAY. SPEEDING AWAY. >> YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE HAD >> YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE HAD TO PUT A BARRIER IN BETWEEN TO PUT A BARRIER IN BETWEEN THE BAD ACTORS AND THE PRODUCT. THE BAD ACTORS AND THE PRODUCT. >> BUT IS IT WORKING? >> BUT IS IT WORKING? IT'S DEFINITELY WORKING. IT'S DEFINITELY WORKING. >> OUR THANKS TO ERIELLE RESHEF >> OUR THANKS TO ERIELLE RESHEF HOME DEPOT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT HOME DEPOT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THESE MEASURES CAN CREATE THESE MEASURES CAN CREATE A BARRIER BETWEEN THE PRODUCTS A BARRIER BETWEEN THE PRODUCTS AND CUSTOMERS AS WELL AND A AND CUSTOMERS AS WELL AND A TEMPORARY INCONVENIENCE. TEMPORARY INCONVENIENCE. BUT ULTIMATELY, THEY SAY BUT ULTIMATELY, THEY SAY THEY'VE HELPED SAVE MORE THAN THEY'VE HELPED SAVE MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS AT JUST THAT A MILLION DOLLARS AT JUST THAT GEORGIA STORE. GEORGIA STORE. IN ONE YEAR. IN ONE YEAR. WE HAVE AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT WE HAVE AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME TONIGHT ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME TONIGHT ON "NIGHTLINE". ON "NIGHTLINE". AND NOW TO A CLOSE CALL AT AND NOW TO A CLOSE CALL AT YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK. YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK. A WOMAN TRIED TO TOUCH A BISON A WOMAN TRIED TO TOUCH A BISON WHILE POSING FOR A PHOTO WHEN WHILE POSING FOR A PHOTO WHEN THE ANIMAL LUNGED AT HER. THE ANIMAL LUNGED AT HER. >> ABC NEWS TREVORAULT HAS >> ABC NEWS TREVORAULT HAS MORE . MORE . >> WELL, THE CLOSE ENCOUNTER >> WELL, THE CLOSE ENCOUNTER INCLUDE CALL IN YELLOWSTONE INCLUDE CALL IN YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK. NATIONAL PARK. WATCH AS THIS WOMAN POSES FOR WATCH AS THIS WOMAN POSES FOR A PHOTO TRYING TO TOUCH A WILD A PHOTO TRYING TO TOUCH A WILD BISON WHEN IT LUNGES FOR HER, BISON WHEN IT LUNGES FOR HER, AS IF PREPARING TO CHARGE THAT AS IF PREPARING TO CHARGE THAT WOMAN RUSHING AWAY. WOMAN RUSHING AWAY. TRIPPING IS DENTALLY. TRIPPING IS DENTALLY. THE BISON STAYS BACK . THE BISON STAYS BACK . IT'S PART OF WILDLIFE, EXPERTS IT'S PART OF WILDLIFE, EXPERTS WARN IS A DANGEROUS PATTERN AT WARN IS A DANGEROUS PATTERN AT NATIONAL PARKS. NATIONAL PARKS. BUT WHAT WE SEE IN THIS FOOTAGE BUT WHAT WE SEE IN THIS FOOTAGE IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR FEAR PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR FEAR AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEIR RESPECT. THEIR RESPECT. FOR POWERFUL ANIMALS, INCLUDING FOR POWERFUL ANIMALS, INCLUDING IN A PLACE AS PRESTIGIOUS IN A PLACE AS PRESTIGIOUS AND AS IMPORTANT AS A NATIONAL AND AS IMPORTANT AS A NATIONAL PARK. PARK. >> THIS VIDEO SHOWS ANOTHER >> THIS VIDEO SHOWS ANOTHER YELLOWSTONE TOURIST GETTING YELLOWSTONE TOURIST GETTING DANGEROUSLY CLOSE FOR A SELFIE DANGEROUSLY CLOSE FOR A SELFIE WHILE THIS BISON DOESN'T REACT, WHILE THIS BISON DOESN'T REACT, YELLOWSTONE OFFICIALS SAY THERE YELLOWSTONE OFFICIALS SAY THERE ARE USUALLY MULTIPLE BISON ARE USUALLY MULTIPLE BISON ATTACKS EACH YEAR. ATTACKS EACH YEAR. THESE CREATURES CAN WAIT THESE CREATURES CAN WAIT TWO THOUSAND POUNDS AND RUN TWO THOUSAND POUNDS AND RUN THIRTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR, THIRTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR, EASILY TOSSING A HUMAN LIKE EASILY TOSSING A HUMAN LIKE A RAG DOLL. A RAG DOLL. >> LAST YEAR, THIS TEXAS WOMAN >> LAST YEAR, THIS TEXAS WOMAN TRYING TO SNEAK BY A BISON WAS TRYING TO SNEAK BY A BISON WAS GORED IN THE BACK, SPENDING GORED IN THE BACK, SPENDING SIX DAYS IN THE HOSPITAL. SIX DAYS IN THE HOSPITAL. THEY'VE GOT THAT GREAT MANTLO THEY'VE GOT THAT GREAT MANTLO HORNS AND THE LAST THING HORNS AND THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS TANGLE YOU WANT TO DO IS TANGLE WITH THOSE HORNS. WITH THOSE HORNS. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED BY BISON WHEN THEY VIOLATE THIS BY BISON WHEN THEY VIOLATE THIS CREATURE SPACE . CREATURE SPACE . >> THE BOTTOM LINE, YOU CAN'T >> THE BOTTOM LINE, YOU CAN'T AND SHOULD ENJOY THE WILDLIFE, AND SHOULD ENJOY THE WILDLIFE, BUT FROM A SAFE DISTANCE, USING BUT FROM A SAFE DISTANCE, USING COMMON SENSE, GET THAT AMAZING COMMON SENSE, GET THAT AMAZING PHOTO OR VIDEO, BUT ALSO PHOTO OR VIDEO, BUT ALSO BE CAREFUL. BE CAREFUL. >> YOU'RE IN THEIR SPACE. >> YOU'RE IN THEIR SPACE. THIS IS WILD COUNTRY. THIS IS WILD COUNTRY. WOW. WOW. OUR THANKS TO TREVORAULT. OUR THANKS TO TREVORAULT. OFFICIALS SAY A BISON IN OFFICIALS SAY A BISON IN A NATIONAL PARK REQUIRES AT A NATIONAL PARK REQUIRES AT LEAST SEVENTY FIVE FEET OF LEAST SEVENTY FIVE FEET OF SPACE . SPACE . IF YOU'RE CLOSER THAN IF YOU'RE CLOSER THAN YOU'RE NOT JUST PUTTING YOU'RE NOT JUST PUTTING YOURSELF AT RISK, YOU'RE ALSO YOURSELF AT RISK, YOU'RE ALSO BREAKING THE LAW. BREAKING THE LAW. >> COMING UP, THE HUGE NEWS FOR >> COMING UP, THE HUGE NEWS FOR AND THE CITY FANS. AND THE CITY FANS. SOME ANTHE IS MAKING SOME ANTHE IS MAKING A COMEBACK. A COMEBACK. WHAT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT KIM WHAT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT KIM CATTRALL IS CAMEO IN THE NEW CATTRALL IS CAMEO IN THE NEW SEASON OF. SEASON OF. AND JUST LIKE THAT. AND JUST LIKE THAT. WELL, GANZ WELL, GANZ THE STORY IS , WE'LL TAKE THE STORY IS , WE'LL TAKE YOU THERE. YOU THERE. >> >> YOUR STREAMING "ABC NEWS LIVE" YOUR STREAMING "ABC NEWS LIVE" . . IT IS TIME FOR THE T WHERE WE IT IS TIME FOR THE T WHERE WE BREAK DOWN SOME OF THE BUZZY BREAK DOWN SOME OF THE BUZZY STORIES PEOPLE ARE TALKING STORIES PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT. ABOUT. OUR FRIEND BILL GANZ IS HERE OUR FRIEND BILL GANZ IS HERE TO SPILLETT. TO SPILLETT. WILL SPILLING THE TEA ALSO? WILL SPILLING THE TEA ALSO? I HAVE TO START I HAVE TO START BY COMPLIMENTING YOUR MANICURE BY COMPLIMENTING YOUR MANICURE . . IT'S VERY FUN. IT'S VERY FUN. VERY SPRING. VERY SPRING. THANK YOU . THANK YOU . BRING INTO SUMMER. BRING INTO SUMMER. I'M HERE FOR A VERY GROWN OUT. I'M HERE FOR A VERY GROWN OUT. IT NEEDS TO BE REDONE AND IT'S IT NEEDS TO BE REDONE AND IT'S STICKER'S. STICKER'S. OH, JUST BECAUSE THAT PERSON OH, JUST BECAUSE THAT PERSON IS GOOD TO GO. IS GOOD TO GO. I LOVE IT. I LOVE IT. OKAY, WELL THIS TI I KNOW OKAY, WELL THIS TI I KNOW YOU'LL BE INTERESTED IN. YOU'LL BE INTERESTED IN. YES. YES. PIPING HOT TEA THIS MORNING PIPING HOT TEA THIS MORNING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. TURN THE VOLUME UP ON YOUR TURN THE VOLUME UP ON YOUR TELEVISION OR SCREEN OR HOWEVER TELEVISION OR SCREEN OR HOWEVER YOU'RE WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE AND JUST LIKE THAT, BECAUSE AND JUST LIKE THAT, SAMANTHA JONES IS BACK BABY . SAMANTHA JONES IS BACK BABY . KIM CATTRALL IS DUSTING OFF KIM CATTRALL IS DUSTING OFF THE MANOLO BLAHNIK FOR SEASON THE MANOLO BLAHNIK FOR SEASON TWO . TWO . OF AND THE CITY'S REVIVAL OF AND THE CITY'S REVIVAL SERIES. SERIES. THE SURPRISING ANNOUNCEMENT THE SURPRISING ANNOUNCEMENT COMING AFTER YEARS OF RUMORS OF COMING AFTER YEARS OF RUMORS OF FEUDS BETWEEN CATTRALL AND THE FEUDS BETWEEN CATTRALL AND THE REST OF THE CAST. REST OF THE CAST. WE HAVE COVERED THAT WE HAVE COVERED THAT EXTENSIVELY. EXTENSIVELY. I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY POURING MY INTELLECT AND ENERGY POURING MY INTELLECT INTO IT. INTO IT. VARIETY IS NOW REPORTING VARIETY IS NOW REPORTING CONTROL WILL BE WILL ONLY CONTROL WILL BE WILL ONLY APPEAR FOR A BRIEF CAMEO IN APPEAR FOR A BRIEF CAMEO IN WHICH SHE FILMED IN MARCH WHICH SHE FILMED IN MARCH WITHOUT INTERACTING WITH SARAH WITHOUT INTERACTING WITH SARAH JESSICA PARKER, CYNTHIA NIXON JESSICA PARKER, CYNTHIA NIXON AND KRISTIN DAVIS. AND KRISTIN DAVIS. SO SHE'S STUCK IN AND STUCK SO SHE'S STUCK IN AND STUCK OUT, BUT SHE IS GOING TO MAKE OUT, BUT SHE IS GOING TO MAKE AN APPEARANCE, EXCITED TO SEE AN APPEARANCE, EXCITED TO SEE HER. HER. >> BUT I DO WISH THEY WOULD >> BUT I DO WISH THEY WOULD FIGURE IT OUT. FIGURE IT OUT. THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. DIRECTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS, BUT SOMEHOW THIS IS MY FEELING. BUT SOMEHOW THIS IS MY FEELING. PUZZLE PIECES TRYING TO FIT PUZZLE PIECES TRYING TO FIT TOGETHER. TOGETHER. WE'RE WORKING. WE'RE WORKING. OH, THAT'S COOL. OH, THAT'S COOL. I KNOW. I KNOW. I'M VERY EXCITED FOR IT. I'M VERY EXCITED FOR IT. AND FROM AND THE CITY TO A AND FROM AND THE CITY TO A LINEUP OF GLOBAL SUPERSTARS LINEUP OF GLOBAL SUPERSTARS TEAMING UP FOR AN ARENA TOUR. TEAMING UP FOR AN ARENA TOUR. UNLIKE ANY OTHER PITBULL, UNLIKE ANY OTHER PITBULL, ENRIQUE IGLESIAS AND RICKY ENRIQUE IGLESIAS AND RICKY MARTIN ARE JOINING FORCES FOR MARTIN ARE JOINING FORCES FOR A GENRE BENDING NIGHT A GENRE BENDING NIGHT WITH THREE UNIQUE HEADLINING WITH THREE UNIQUE HEADLINING SETS. SETS. THE TRILOGY KICKS OFF THIS THE TRILOGY KICKS OFF THIS FALL, AND IT'S STOPPING AT FALL, AND IT'S STOPPING AT 19 CITIES ACROSS NORTH AMERICA. 19 CITIES ACROSS NORTH AMERICA. THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE IN THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE IN NEW YORK IN OCTOBER. NEW YORK IN OCTOBER. YOU CAN RUN AND HIDE, BUT YOU CAN RUN AND HIDE, BUT YOU CAN'T ESCAPE. YOU CAN'T ESCAPE. OH, YES, I'M THINKING SEABAG OH, YES, I'M THINKING SEABAG CAN SEE THAT. CAN SEE THAT. OH, BABY OR MISTER THREE OR OH, BABY OR MISTER THREE OR FIVE MILLION WORLDWIDE IF FIVE MILLION WORLDWIDE IF THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, BACKUP. THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, BACKUP. WE'RE HERE FOR WE'RE HERE FOR WE'RE HERE FOR WE'RE HERE FOR THEM. THEM. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I CAN WRITE GOSLINGS PROVING I CAN WRITE GOSLINGS PROVING THAT LIFE IN PLASTIC REALLY THAT LIFE IN PLASTIC REALLY IS FANTASTIC. IS FANTASTIC. FIRING BACK AT CRITICS WHO SAY FIRING BACK AT CRITICS WHO SAY HE'S TOO OLD TO PLAY CAT IN HE'S TOO OLD TO PLAY CAT IN THE UPCOMING BARBIE MOVIE AT THE UPCOMING BARBIE MOVIE AT FORTY TWO YEARS YOUNG. FORTY TWO YEARS YOUNG. >> SOME PEOPLE SAY HE'S OLD >> SOME PEOPLE SAY HE'S OLD ENOUGH TO BE BARBIES THAT ENOUGH TO BE BARBIES THAT RYAN'S NOW TELLING GQ MAGAZINE RYAN'S NOW TELLING GQ MAGAZINE THAT HE THINKS THE WHOLE THAT HE THINKS THE WHOLE CONTROVERSY IS FUNNY. CONTROVERSY IS FUNNY. BECAUSE FOR ALL OF THIS TIME, BECAUSE FOR ALL OF THIS TIME, NOBODY HAS CARED ABOUT CAN HE NOBODY HAS CARED ABOUT CAN HE SAID , QUOTE, IF YOU EVER SAID , QUOTE, IF YOU EVER REALLY CARED ABOUT KEN, REALLY CARED ABOUT KEN, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT NOBODY YOU WOULD KNOW THAT NOBODY CARED ABOUT TO . CARED ABOUT TO . YOUR HYPOCRISY IS EXPOSED. YOUR HYPOCRISY IS EXPOSED. BARBIE HITS THEATERS ON JULY BARBIE HITS THEATERS ON JULY 21ST. 21ST. HE'S OLD ENOUGH TO BE BARBIE'S HE'S OLD ENOUGH TO BE BARBIE'S DAD, BARBIE, PLAYED BY MARGOT DAD, BARBIE, PLAYED BY MARGOT ROBBIE. ROBBIE. HE'S NOT OLD ENOUGH TO BE HE'S NOT OLD ENOUGH TO BE HEARD. HEARD. I THINK TRADITIONALLY BARBIE I THINK TRADITIONALLY BARBIE IS LIKE, WHAT? IS LIKE, WHAT? TWENTY ONE YEARS OLD OR TWENTY ONE YEARS OLD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I WANT TAKE WITH NOT TAKE BUT I WANT TAKE WITH NOT TAKE ISSUE WITH THE WHOLE CAST ISSUE WITH THE WHOLE CAST AS OPPOSED TO JUST HIM. AS OPPOSED TO JUST HIM. >> I DON'T KNOW. >> I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. OKAY, I'M JUST HAPPY TO SEE OKAY, I'M JUST HAPPY TO SEE PEOPLE MAKING FUN OF AN ACTOR PEOPLE MAKING FUN OF AN ACTOR INSTEAD OF AN ACTRESS. INSTEAD OF AN ACTRESS. YEAH. YEAH. HE'S TOO OLD HOLLYWOOD. HE'S TOO OLD HOLLYWOOD. HE'S AGING OUT. HE'S AGING OUT. THAT'S NOT MY WORDS. THAT'S NOT MY WORDS. THAT'S WHAT THE CRITICS ACT. THAT'S WHAT THE CRITICS ACT. OKAY, SPIDER-MAN DOES OKAY, SPIDER-MAN DOES WHATEVER A SPIDER CAN, BUT WHATEVER A SPIDER CAN, BUT A SPIDER HAS NEVER SEWN UP SO A SPIDER HAS NEVER SEWN UP SO MUCH SUCCESS AS AT THE BOX MUCH SUCCESS AS AT THE BOX OFFICE LIKE THIS. OFFICE LIKE THIS. THIS WEEKEND, SPIDER-MAN ACROSS THIS WEEKEND, SPIDER-MAN ACROSS THE SPIDER SLINGS ITS WAY INTO THE SPIDER SLINGS ITS WAY INTO THEATERS, FOLLOWED BY NEXT THEATERS, FOLLOWED BY NEXT YEAR'S SPIDER-MAN BEYOND YEAR'S SPIDER-MAN BEYOND THE SKYDIVERS AND PRODUCER AMY THE SKYDIVERS AND PRODUCER AMY PASCAL ISN'T STOPPING THERE. PASCAL ISN'T STOPPING THERE. A LIVE ACTION? A LIVE ACTION? MILES MORALES LED SPIDER MOVIE MILES MORALES LED SPIDER MOVIE IS IN THE WORKS NOW AND FOR IS IN THE WORKS NOW AND FOR FANS OF TOM HOLLAND'S FANS OF TOM HOLLAND'S PETER PARKER AND ZENDAYA PETER PARKER AND ZENDAYA IS GOOD NEWS. IS GOOD NEWS. THERE'S A FOURTH FILM IN THAT THERE'S A FOURTH FILM IN THAT UNIVERSE IN DEVELOPMENT UNIVERSE IN DEVELOPMENT SLIGHTLY DELAYED BECAUSE OF SLIGHTLY DELAYED BECAUSE OF THE WRITER'S STRIKE. THE WRITER'S STRIKE. AND FINALLY, THIS IS SO AND FINALLY, THIS IS SO EXCITING. EXCITING. A SPIDER WOMAN FILM IT NOW. A SPIDER WOMAN FILM IT NOW. AND IT'S COMING, QUOTE, SOONER AND IT'S COMING, QUOTE, SOONER THAN YOU THINK. THAN YOU THINK. OH, OKAY. OH, OKAY. I LIKE THAT. I LIKE THAT. WHO DO WE THINK COULD PLAY WHO DO WE THINK COULD PLAY SPIDER WOMAN? SPIDER WOMAN? >> I KNOW I HAVE MY HEAD. >> I KNOW I HAVE MY HEAD. MILLIE, BOBBY BROWN CAME MILLIE, BOBBY BROWN CAME TO MIND. TO MIND. OKAY, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY, OKAY, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY, REALLY EXCITING. REALLY EXCITING. YEAH, OR SADY OR STRANGER YEAH, OR SADY OR STRANGER THINGS COSTAR IN MY EAR SAYING THINGS COSTAR IN MY EAR SAYING I DON'T HATE IT. I DON'T HATE IT. I KNOW WE MIGHT HAVE JUST DONE I KNOW WE MIGHT HAVE JUST DONE SOMETHING HERE. SOMETHING HERE. BY THE WAY, MY HUSBAND BY THE WAY, MY HUSBAND IS TAKING OUR SON TO SEE INTO IS TAKING OUR SON TO SEE INTO THIS BIODIVERSE OR HIS FIRST THIS BIODIVERSE OR HIS FIRST MOVIE EVER IN A MOVIE THEATER. MOVIE EVER IN A MOVIE THEATER. ISN'T THAT ADORABLE? ISN'T THAT ADORABLE? THAT BUTTERED POPCORN IS GOING THAT BUTTERED POPCORN IS GOING TO CHANGE HIS LIFE? TO CHANGE HIS LIFE? I'M HAPPY FOR HIM. I'M HAPPY FOR HIM. AGAIN. AGAIN. THANK YOU . THANK YOU . THANK YOU . THANK YOU . HAPPY TO HAVE YOU , FRIEND. HAPPY TO HAVE YOU , FRIEND. CHEERS AND HAPPY TO HAVE CHEERS AND HAPPY TO HAVE YOU ALL STREAMING WITH US YOU ALL STREAMING WITH US ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". ON "ABC NEWS LIVE". I'M DIANE MACEDO. I'M DIANE MACEDO. YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND THIS YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND THIS ON HULU, ROKU, THE ABC NEWS APP ON HULU, ROKU, THE ABC NEWS APP AND OF COURSE ON ABCNEWS.COM AND OF COURSE ON ABCNEWS.COM THE NEWS NEVER STOPS. THE NEWS NEVER STOPS. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK . WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK .