During Jan. 6 testimony Trump aide describes former president’s fury that day

Cassidy Hutchinson provided a more detailed account of Trump’s actions leading up to the riot, including allegedly trying to take the wheel of his motorcade to return to the Capitol.
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Transcript for During Jan. 6 testimony Trump aide describes former president’s fury that day
CORRESPONDENT JONATHAN KARL. >> Reporter: HER NAME IS CASSIDY HUTCHINSON. SHE JUST TURNED 26. AND TODAY SHE TOLD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT SHE WITNESSED FROM HER VANTAGE POINT JUST STEPS AWAY FROM THE OVAL OFFICE AS THE TOP AIDE TO CHIEF OF STAFF MARK MEADOWS. SHE TESTIFIED ON JANUARY 2nd, AS SHE ESCORTED RUDY GIULIANI FROM A WHITE HOUSE MEETING, HE TOLD HER DONALD TRUMP WAS PLANNING TO GO TO THE CAPITOL HIMSELF ON JANUARY 6th. >> HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, "CASS, ARE YOU EXCITED FOR THE 6th? IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT DAY." I REMEMBER LOOKING AT HIM SAYING, "RUDY, WOULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE 6th?" HE HAD RESPONDED SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, "WE'RE GOING TO THE CAPITOL, IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT, THE PRESIDENT'S GOING TO BE THERE, HE'S GOING TO LOOK POWERFUL, HE'S GOING TO BE WITH THE MEMBERS, HE'S GOING TO BE WITH THE SENATORS, TALK TO THE CHIEF ABOUT IT, HE KNOWS ABOUT IT." >> DID YOU GO BACK, THEN, UP TO THE WEST WING AND TELL MR. MEADOWS ABOUT YOUR CONVERSATION WITH MR. GIULIANO? >> I DID. HE DIDN'T LOOK UP FROM HIS PHONE AND SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, "THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, CASS, BUT I DON'T KNOW, THINGS MIGHT GET REAL, REAL BAD ON JANUARY 6th." THAT EVENING WAS THE FIRST MOMENT THAT I REMEMBER FEELING SCARED. >> Reporter: THEN THE MORNING OF JANUARY 6th, HUTCHINSON TESTIFIED MEADOWS WAS TOLD THERE WERE WEAPONS IN THE CROWD. >> I REMEMBER TONY MENTIONING KNIVES, GUNS IN THE FORM OF PISTOLS AND RIFLES, BEAR SPRAY, BODY ARMOR, SPEARS, AND FLAGPOLES. SPEARS WERE ONE ITEM, FLAGPOLES WERE ONE ITEM, THEN TONY HAD RELAYED TO ME SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, AND THESE EFFING PEOPLE ARE PASS THENNING SPEARS ONTO THE ENDS OF FLAGPOLES. >> Reporter: THEY PLAYED POLICE RADIO TRAFFIC FROM THAT MORNING BACKING UP THE REPORTS OF ARMED PROTESTERS. >> I'VE GOT THREE MEN WALKING DOWN THE STREET IN FATIGUES CARRYING AR-15s -- >> Reporter: TRUMP WAS 18. MORE OF THE CROWD WASN'T ALLOWED AROUND THE SECURED AREA OF THE STAGE. SOME STAYED OUTSIDE IS THE SECURITY PERIMETER BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR WEAPONS. >> HE WANTED IT FULL AND HE WAS ANGRY WE WEREN'T LETTING PEOPLE THROUGH WITH WEAPONS. I HEARD THE PRESIDENT SAY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, "I DON'T CARE THAT THEY HAVE WEAPONS, THEY'RE NOT HURRICANE RITA TO HURT ME, TAKE MY EFFING MAGS AWAY." >> Reporter: SHE TESTIFIED WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL BALONEY WAS ADAMANT TRUMP NOT GO TO THE CAPITOL. >> HE SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, "PLEASE MAKE SURE WE DON'T GO UP TO THE CAPITOL, CASSIDY, KEEP IN TOUCH WITH ME, WE'RE GOING TO GET CHARGE THE WITH EVERY CRIME IMAGINABLE IF WE MAKE THAT MOVEMENT HAPPEN." >> Reporter: ROUGH CHIN SON SAID TRUMP WAS NOT WILLING TO TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER, AND AFTER HIS SPEECH WAS OVER, HE ORDERED THE PRESIDENTIAL VEHICLE TO TAKE HIM TO CAPITOL HILL. LEAD SECRET SERVICE AGENT ROBERT ENGLE REFUSED. HUTCHINSON TESTIFIED SHE SAW HIM AND THE DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TONY ARNAUDO JUST AFTER THEY RETURNED FROM THE WHITE HOUSE WITH AN ANGRY MR. TRUMP. >> Reporter: I SAW HIM SITTING IN A CHAIR, LOOKING SOMEWHAT DISCOMBOBULATED, A LITTLE LOST. >> Reporter: SHE SAID SHE WAS TOLD WHEN THE PRESIDENT GOT INTO THE CAR, HE BELIEVED HE WAS HEADING TO THE CAPITOL. >> ONCE HE HAD GOTTEN INTO THE VEHICLE WITH BOBBY, HE THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO THE CAPITOL. WHEN BOBBY RELAYED TO HIM, "WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE THE ASSETS TO DO IT, WE'RE NOT SECURE, WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE WEST WING," THE PRESIDENTED THAT VERY STRONG, VERY ANGRY RESPONSE TO THAT. TONY DESCRIBED HIM AS BEING IRATE. THE PRESIDENT SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, "I'M THE EFFING PRESIDENT, TAKE ME UP TO THE CAPITOL NOW." TO WHICH BOBBY RESPONDED, "SIR, WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE WEST WING." THE PRESIDENT REACHED UP TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE VEHICLE TO GRAB AT THE STEERING WHEEL. MR. ENGLE GRABBED HIS ARM, SAID "SIR, YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR HAND OFF THE STEERING WHEEL, WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE WEST WING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO THE CAPITOL." MR. TRUMP THEN USED HIS FREE HAND TO LUNGE TOWARDS BOBBY ENGLE. WHEN MR. RENADO RECOUNTED THIS STORY TO ME, HE MOTIONED TOWARDS HIS CLAVICLES. >> Reporter: IT WASN'T THE FIRST TIME TRUMP HAD EXPLODED IN RAGE. HUTCHINSON DESCRIBED SEEING WHAT HAPPENED A MONTH EARLIER AFTER ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR DECLARED THERE WAS NO SIGNIFICANT FRAUD IN THE ELECTION. >> MS. HUTCHINSON, HOW DID THE PRESIDENT REACT TO HEARING THAT NEWS? >> I FIRST NOTICED THERE WAS KETCHUP DRIPPING DOWN THE WALL. THERE'S A SHATTERED PORCELAIN PLATE ON THE FLOOR. THE VALET HAD ARTICULATED THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS EXTREMELY ANGRY AT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S AP INTERVIEW AND HAD THROWN HIS LUNCH AGAINST THE WALL. >> MISS HUTCHINSON, WAS THIS THE ONLY INSTANCE THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF WHERE THE PRESIDENT THREW DISHES? >> IT'S NOT. THERE ARE SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT MY TENURE WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF THAT I WAS AWARE OF HIM EITHER THROWING DISHES OR FLIPPING THE TABLECLOTH TO LET ALL THE CONTENTS OF THE TABLE GO ONTO THE FLOOR AND LIKELY BREAK OR GO EVERYWHERE. >> Reporter: ON JANUARY 6th, EVEN AFTER HE RETURNED TO THE WHITE HOUSE, TRUMP STILL WANTED TO JOIN THE MARCH TO THE CAPITOL. >> HE SAID HE WANTED TO PHYSICALLY WALK WITH THE MARCHERS, HE WANTED TO BE A PART OF THE MARCH HIMSELF, ACTUALLY. >> Reporter: BUT HE DID NOT GO, AND HIS SUPPORTERS SOON BREACHED THE CAPITOL BUILDING. HUTCHINSON SAID CHIEF OF STAFF MEADOWS INITIALLY DID NOTHING. >> WATCHING TV, CHIEF? HE SAID, YEAH. THE RIOTERS ARE GETTING REALLY CLOSE, HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT? HE SAID, NO, HE WANTS TO BE ALONE RIGHT NOW. >> Reporter: THEN THE WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL CAME RUSHING IN. >> I REMEMBER PAT SAYING TO HIM SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, THE RIOTERS HAVE GOTTEN TO THE CAPITOL, MARK, WE NEED TO GO DOWN AND SEE THE PRESIDENT NOW. AND MARK LOOKED UP AT HIM AND SAID, "HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING, PAT." >> Reporter: TRUMP WAS EVEN UNMOVED BY HIS SUPPORTERS CHANTING "HANG MIKE PENCE." >> I REMEMBER PAT SAYING SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, MARK, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING MORE, THEY'RE LITERALLY CALLING FOR THE VICE PRESIDENT TO BE EFFING HUNG. MARK HAD RESPONDED SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, YOU HEARD HIM, PAT, HE THINKS MIKE DESERVES IT, HE DOESN'T THINK THEY'RE DOING ANYTHING WRONG. TO WHICH PAT SAID SOMETHING, THIS IS EFFING CRAZY. >> Reporter: THE COMMITTEE POINTED OUT, IT'S ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT TRUMP TOLD ME SIX WEEKS AFTER HE LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE. >> HANG MIKE PENCE? >> BECAUSE IT'S COMMON SENSE, JON, IT'S COMMON SENS THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT -- HOW CAN YOU -- IF YOU KNOW A VOTE IS FRAUDULENT, RIGHT, HOW CAN YOU PASS ON A FRAUDULENT VOTE? TO CONGRESS? >> Reporter: AT THE END OF THE HEARING TODAY, CASSIDY HUTCHINSON WAS ASKED ABOUT HER OWN BOSS, MARK MEADOWS, AND ABOUT RUDY GIULIANI, WHO HAD TOLD HER JANUARY 6th WOULD BE A GREAT DAY. SHE SAID BOTH WANTED PRESIDENTIAL PARDONS. >> MISS HUTCHINSON, DID WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF MARK MEADOWS EVER INDICATE THAT HE WAS INTERESTED IN RECEIVING A PRESIDENTIAL PARDON RELATED TO JANUARY 6th? >> MR. MEADOWS DID SEEK THAT PARDON, YES, MA'AM. >> OUR THANKS TO JONATHAN. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY ISSUED A FLURRY OF STATEMENTS REFUTING HUTCHINSON'S TESTIMONY. THE SECRET SERVICE SAYS THAT IT WISHES TO RESPOND TO HUTCHINSON'S TESTIMONY UNDER OATH. A SOURCE CLOSE TO THE AGENCY TELLS ABC NEWS TO EXPECT THAT THE SECRET SERVICE WON'T PUSHBACK ANY ALLEGATION OF

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