New York grand jury wrapping up investigation into Trump hush money payment

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Transcript for New York grand jury wrapping up investigation into Trump hush money payment
YOU'RE STREAMING "ABC NEWS LIVE". AND GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. I'M KYRA PHILLIPS TODAY ON ABC NEWS LIVE. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP FACING A POSSIBLE INDICTMENT IN THE STORMY DANIELS HUSH MONEY CASE. SECURITY PLANS FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE SECRET SERVICE STRAIGHT AHEAD. TREASURY SECRETARY JANET YELLEN SAYING THE GOVERNMENT WILL REMAIN VIGILANT AS CONCERNS GROW FOR OUR BANKING SYSTEM. NOW, THOSE REMARKS ARE IMPACTING OUR BANKS. BANK STOCKS TODAY. THE U.S. BLASTING CHINA'S PROPOSAL FOR PEACE IN UKRAINE AS CHINA'S JINPING MEETS WITH RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN. WHAT AMERICA'S TOP DIPLOMAT IS SAYING AND HOW JAPAN'S PRIME MINISTER STOLE SOME OF XI'S THUNDER. >> BUT WE DO BEGIN WITH FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP FACING A POSSIBLE INDICTMENT IN THE STORMY DANIELS HUSH MONEY CASE. LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES STEPPING UP SECURITY IN CASE OF POTENTIAL PROTEST AND TODAY IS THE DAY THE FORMER PRESIDENT CLAIMED WITHOUT EVIDENCE THAT HE WOULD BE ARRESTED. SO FAR , THAT HASN'T HAPPENED. BUT SOURCES DO TELL ABC'S AARON KATERSKY THAT THE SECRET SERVICE IS COORDINATING WITH THE NYPD ANYWAY, DEVELOPING SECURITY PLANS IN THE EVENT THAT TRUMP IS INDICTED AND ARRAIGNED IN COURT IN LOWER MANHATTAN. RIGHT NOW, THE GRAND JURY IS WEIGHING POTENTIAL CHARGES RELATED TO THOSE HUSH MONEY PAYMENTS TO THE STAR PRIOR TO THE 2016 ELECTION. TRUMP HAS ACKNOWLEDGED PAYING STORMY DANIELS ONE HUNDRED THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT HE SAYS HE DID NOTHING WRONG. PROSECUTOR SEE IT DIFFERENTLY AND ARE LOOKING INTO WHETHER TRUMP POTENTIALLY VIOLATED ELECTION LAWS AND FALSIFIED DOCUMENTS WHILE TRYING TO CONCEAL THAT PAYMENT. JOINING US NOW, ABC NEWS SENIOR REPORTER KATHERINE FAULDERS. SHE'S LIVE IN ORLANDO, WHERE HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE MEETING FOR THE ANNUAL RETREAT. ALSO, OUR SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER, AARON KATERSKY, LIVE IN OUR NEW YORK STUDIO THERE. PLUS, OUR LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR AND LAW PROFESSOR KIMBERLY WAILI. ALL RIGHT, ERIN, IF THIS INDICTMENT DOES COME DOWN, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS AND SECRET SERVICE AGENTS THERE ARE COORDINATING SECURITY. >> THIS WOULD BE UNPRECEDENTED. AND UNLIKE ANY OTHER CRIMINAL DEFENDANT, WHITE COLLAR OR OTHERWISE, THAT WE HAVE EVER SEEN BECAUSE NO FORMER PRESIDENT AND SECRET SERVICE PROTECTEE HAS EVER COME INTO NEW YORK CRIMINAL COURT. SO IT APPEARS THAT SHOULD THE GRAND JURY RETURN AN INDICTMENT IN THE EARLIEST, WE THINK THAT COULD HAPPEN WOULD BE SOMETIME ON WEDNESDAY AT THE EARLIEST. THEN IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THE THE SECRET SERVICE WOULD BE MADE AWARE AND WOULD ARRANGE TRUMP'S TRANSPORTATION HERE TO NEW YORK SO THAT HE COULD COME INTO COURT AND BE BOOKED AND PROCESSED AND ARRAIGNED. WE WOULD NOT KNOW WHAT THE CHARGES ARE UNTIL THAT ARRAIGNMENT. INDICTMENTS IN NEW YORK REMAIN SEALED UNTIL THE DEFENDANT APPEARS IN COURT. SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE SPECIFIC IDEA ABOUT THE CHARGES. GENERALLY, WE KNOW WHAT THEY INVOLVE, BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE SPECIFICS UNLESS AND UNTIL TRUMP APPEARS IN COURT. ALL OF THAT WILL GO DOWN WITH THE HELP OF THE POLICE, THE SECRET SERVICE, THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION AND IT WOULD INVOLVE SOME DEGREE OF SECURITY, NOT ONLY INSIDE THE BUILDING, BUT ALSO OUTSIDE, BECAUSE, AS TRUMP CALLED FOR OVER THE WEEKEND, PROTEST, SOME MAY BE PREPARED TO TAKE HIM UP ON THAT CALL KYRA. >> SO THEN WE SAW SOME TRUMP SUPPORTERS DEMONSTRATING IN NEW YORK YESTERDAY, BUT IT WASN'T TOO RAMBUNCTIOUS AT ALL. >> IT WAS NOT. THERE WERE BARELY ANY PEOPLE DOWN THERE. THE POLICE DROPPED OFF SOME BARRICADES. AND IN CASE THAT'S NECESSARY, BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS MINDFUL ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE SEEING ONLINE FOLLOWING THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S CALL FOR PROTEST. THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN RHETORIC THAT WAS VIOLENT, THAT THAT WAS THREATENING. IN FACT, ONE LAW ENFORCEMENT BULLETIN WE HAD TO LOOK AT, KYRA, SAID THAT THEY HADN'T SEEN THIS KIND OF AN UPTICK IN THE VIOLENT RHETORIC ONLINE SINCE TRUMP'S FLORIDA HOME AT MAR-A-LAGO WAS RAIDED BY THE FBI BACK IN AUGUST. SO THIS CLEARLY HAS INCITED SOME PASSIONS. THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BULLETIN NOTED THAT IT'S NOT KNOWN WHETHER TRUMP STILL HOLDS THE KIND OF SWAY THAT HE DID SAY, BACK ON JANUARY 6TH. BUT THERE STILL ARE SOME TRUMP SUPPORTERS THAT ARE WILLING TO ACT ON HIS BEHALF. >> SO CLEARLY, THE STAKES ARE INCREDIBLY HIGH HERE FOR PROSECUTORS. IF THEY DO CHARGE TRUMP. DO YOU THINK THE CHARGES WOULD STICK OR IS THERE A CHANCE THAT THEY COULD JUST GET LAUGHED OUT OF COURT? I THINK ALVIN BRAGG IS PROBABLY BEING METICULOUS ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER AN INDICTMENT, IF THAT IS INDEED COMING. IT'S A LITTLE COMPLICATED BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE TO PROVE THAT THERE WERE FALSIFICATIONS MADE IN BUSINESS RECORDS RELATING TO THIS UNDERLYING PAYMENT. THAT WAS ALSO A VIOLATION OF CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAW. SO THERE'S TWO LAYERS THERE. THAT BEING SAID , I ALSO THINK IT'S COMPLICATED TO IMPANEL A JURY. MANHATTAN IS PROBABLY NOT FILLED WITH TRUMP SUPPORTERS, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE JURORS IF IT GETS TO TRIAL THAT ARE GOING TO BE OPEN MINDED. THAT BEING SAID , THIS IS ONE OF FIVE ONGOING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS OF DONALD TRUMP . AND GIVEN SORT OF WHAT'S AT STAKE FOR DEMOCRACY, WHICH REALLY IS WHAT ARE THE GUARDRAILS TO DISTANCE IDENTIFIES FUTURE PRESIDENTS TO USE THE MASSIVE POWER OF THE OFFICE FOR PERSONAL GAIN OR CORRUPTION POTENTIALLY? I THINK THE STAKES ARE REALLY HIGH FOR DEMOCRACY AS WELL AS PERSONALLY FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT . >> SO, KATHERINE , HOW ARE REPUBLICANS THERE THIS FAUCI RETREAT, RATHER, REACTING TO ALL THIS TODAY AND HAS THERE BEEN ANY BUZZ ABOUT PROTESTS? WELL, THERE HAS BEEN. WE KNOW THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, KEVIN MCCARTHY, WAS ASKED ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S COMMENTS CALLING FOR PROTEST. MCCARTHY SAID THAT THAT WASN'T REALLY WHAT TRUMP SAID , EVEN THOUGH HE DID POSTED ONLINE AND SAID THAT HE'S NOT CALLING FOR PROTESTS, THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE VIOLENCE. HE'S URGING CALM. BUT LOOK, THIS REPUBLICAN RETREAT, KYRA, WHICH THEY COME DOWN HERE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND HAVE THESE CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS TO BANG OUT SOME POLICY MATTERS REALLY WAS OVERSHADOWED BY TRUMP. MCCARTHY HAD HIS COMMITTEE CHAIRS WHILE THEY WERE DOWN HERE ANNOUNCING AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE MANHATTAN D.A. SO THEY WERE ALL PEPPERED WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. >> ALL OF THEM REALLY COMING TO HIS DEFENSE, THOUGH, AND KIM, TRUMP'S FORMER FIXER, MICHAEL COHEN, IS NOT THE STRONGEST KEY WITNESS, CLEARLY. SO PROSECUTORS MUST HAVE SOME SORT OF EVIDENCE TO BACK UP ALL OF HIS CLAIMS AS WELL. RIGHT? RIGHT. WE KNOW, OF COURSE, AS YOU SAID , IT WAS THE GRAND JURIES ARE SECRET, BUT WE DO KNOW NOT JUST MICHAEL COHEN, BUT POTENTIALLY DAVID , WHO WAS IN THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER, WHO KNOW INVOLVED IN THESE CATCH AND KILL PROGRAMS ON BEHALF OF DONALD TRUMP, WHERE PEOPLE WERE PAID OFF IN ADVANCE OF THE ELECTION, ALLEGEDLY, AS WELL AS ALAN MUSSELBURGH, HIS FORMER CFO OF THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION. PLED GUILTY TO TAX FRAUD AND OTHER CRIMES. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ALVIN BRAGG HAS AND HIS PROSECUTORS AND THE GRAND JURY HAVE COLLECTED. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE TRANSLATED INTO ACTUAL ALLEGATIONS IN POTENTIAL CRIMINAL INDICTMENT, KIND OF CONNECTING THOSE DOTS WILL HAVE TO BE DONE AFTER WE SEE ALL OF THE YOU THE PAPERWORK. THAT BEING SAID , YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THIS IS POTENTIALLY A CASE THAT WOULD JUST BE THROUGH WITNESSES DOES NOT MAKE IT FATAL AT THE GET GO . LOTS OF BOTH CIVIL AND CRIMINAL CASES ARE BUILT AROUND WITNESS TESTIMONY. AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE AGAIN HOW MANY AND WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION ALVIN BRAGG HAS PUT TOGETHER THROUGH THE VARIOUS PEOPLE WHO'VE APPEARED BEFORE THE GRAND JURY. >> ALL RIGHT. STAY TUNED. I'M CATHERINE AARON. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. NOW TO THE HEALTH OF THE BANKING SYSTEM. WALL STREET IS FINALLY STARTING TO STABILIZE WITH STOCKS UP AGAIN TODAY, BUILDING OFF YESTERDAY'S RALLY. REGIONAL BANKS ARE SURGING TODAY, LED BY FIRST REPUBLIC. SHARES OF THE STRUGGLING BANK ARE UP ABOUT 40% AFTER LOSING NEARLY HALF OF ITS VALUE DURING TRADING YESTERDAY. >> REMARKS FROM TREASURY SECRETARY JANET YELLEN REALLY HELPED THOSE BANK STOCKS TODAY AFTER SHE DEFENDED THE DECISIVE AND FORCEFUL ACTIONS BY REGULATORS TO PREVENT MORE BANKS FROM FAILING AND PLEDGING MORE HELP IF NEEDED IN THE FUTURE. >> SUSAN IS COMMITTED TO ENSURING THE ONGOING HEALTH AND COMPETITIVENESS OF OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL BANKING INSTITUTIONS. SAFE AND SOUND BANKING SYSTEM IS INTEGRAL TO THE HEALTH OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY, AND WE ARE SQUARELY FOCUSED ON DOING OUR JOB. AND YOU SHOULD RISK ASSURED THAT WE WILL REMAIN VIGILANT. SO HOW SAFE IS OUR MONEY? THAT'S WHERE WE BRING IN OUR BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT ALEXIS CHRISTOFOROUS TO TRY AND BREAK IT ALL DOWN. SO WHAT STUCK OUT TO YOU FROM YELLING'S REMARKS? >> WELL, I THINK, KYRA, HER REMARKS ARE THE CLEAREST SIGNAL YET THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS STANDING BY , READY TO INTERVENE AND BACKSTOP MORE DEPOSITS IF ANOTHER BANK WERE TO FAIL. I ALSO FOUND IT TO BE VERY REASSURING THAT SHE SAID THINGS APPEAR TO BE STABILIZING. NOW WE'RE SEEING DEPOSIT WITHDRAWALS FROM REGIONAL BANKS SLOWING, IN SOME CASES EVEN REVERSING SINCE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STAGED ITS INTERVENTION LAST WEEK. OF COURSE, THAT'S WHEN FEDERAL REGULATORS USE THEIR EMERGENCY POWERS TO GUARANTEE UNINSURED DEPOSITS THAT NOW COLLAPSE SILICON VALLEY BANK AND SIGNATURE BANK. AND THEY ALSO SET UP AT THAT TIME A NEW FEDERAL RESERVE LENDING PROGRAM TO ALLOW BANKS TO MEET WITHDRAWAL REQUESTS, REQUESTS. AND , OF COURSE, ALL OF THIS, KIRAN, IS IN AN EFFORT TO TRY AND SHORE UP CONFIDENCE IN THE BANKING SYSTEM. SO THE FED IS MEETING TOMORROW FOR THIS HIGHLY ANTICIPATED MOVE ON INTEREST RATES. SO HOW DO YOU SEE THAT PLAYING OUT? >> WE HAVE A VERY DIVIDED WALL STREET ON WHETHER OR NOT THE FED IS GOING TO RAISE RATES. THEY'VE BEEN IN THIS FIGHT AGAINST HIGH INFLATION NOW FOR OVER A YEAR, CONTINUALLY RAISING INTEREST RATES. IT'S THOSE HIGHER RATES THAT ACTUALLY GOT A LOT OF THE BANKS IN TROUBLE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IF THE FED THINKS IT'S GOING TO ROLL THE DICE HERE AND RAISE RATES AGAIN, POSSIBLY SQUEEZING THE BANKING SYSTEM EVEN MORE , OR WILL IT JUST LAY LOW AND LET THINGS SETTLE IN THE BANKING SYSTEM? YOU CAN SEE THERE WE'VE HAD EIGHT INTEREST RATE INCREASES IN JUST THE PAST YEAR AS THE FED TRIES TO WRAP ITS ARMS AROUND INFLATION, WHICH IS STILL RUNNING HOT AT SIX PERCENT. >> SO IN THE WAKE OF THIS CRISIS, WE'RE LEARNING THAT THE FDIC ACTUALLY COULD EXPAND ITS COVERAGE AND INSURE AMERICANS BEYOND THAT, TWO HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR THRESHOLD THAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH US DAILY. >> IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING? WELL, I THINK IT'S A LONG WAY FROM BECOMING A REALITY, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT WILL CONSIDER. AND IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN BOOSTING CONFIDENCE IN OUR BANKING SYSTEM. JANET YELLEN, TREASURY SECRETARY YELLEN WAS ASKED ABOUT THIS TODAY WHEN SHE ADDRESSED THE BANKING ASSOCIATION AND SHE SAID THERE WILL BE A TIME FOR US TO LOOK AT THOSE RULES. RIGHT NOW, THOUGH, WE WANT TO STABILIZE THE BANKING SYSTEM. FED REGULATORS, BY THE WAY, WOULD PROBABLY NEED EMERGENCY AUTHORITY TO ENSURE DEPOSITS ABOVE TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF CONGRESS. AND AS WE KNOW, WE HAVE A VERY DIVIDED CONGRESS. IT WOULD BE HARD TO BELIEVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD ACTUALLY PASS. REPUBLICANS ARE ALREADY PUSHING BACK ON THIS IDEA AND ALSO CREDIT SUISSE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT SAYS IT WILL CONTINUE TO HAND OUT BONUSES AND PAY RAISES TO THOSE ELIGIBLE. OKAY, WHAT DO THEY MEAN THOSE ELIGIBLE? >> RIGHT. THAT IS A BIG QUESTION. MARK. REMEMBER, THIS BANK JUST GOT BAILED OUT BY ITS LARGER RIVAL FOR MORE THAN THREE BILLION DOLLARS. I THINK THE IDEA THAT THE BANK IS GOING TO PAY OUT BONUSES IS NOT GOING TO SIT WELL WITH LOTS OF FOLKS. WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ARE TOP TIER PEOPLE AT CREDIT SUISSE OR ACROSS THE COMPANY, WE JUST DON'T KNOW . A LEGISLATORS ARE ALSO NOW ASKING FOR THE FORMER CEO OF SILICON VALLEY BANK TO GIVE BACK SOME OF THE MONEY HE MADE OFF OF A STOCK SALE JUST TWO WEEKS BEFORE HIS BANK COLLAPSED. GREG BECKER SOLD THREE POINT SIX DOLLARS MILLION WORTH OF HIS COMPANY'S STOCK. SO AND THOSE PEOPLE AT SVB, BY THE WAY, WERE ALSO GIVEN BONUSES JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE THE BANK COLLAPSED. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE IF SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE NEED TH. DO WE THINK HE'S A PSYCHOPATH? ONLY ON HULU. A RUSSIAN PRESIDENT , VLADIMIR PUTIN, SAYS THAT HE'LL CONSIDER A PEACE PROPOSAL FROM CHINA'S PRESIDENT TO END THE WAR IN UKRAINE. HOWEVER, US SECRETARY OF STATE ANTHONY BLINKEN SAYS THIS IS JUST A STALLING TACTIC AT BEST. CHINA'S LEADER SAYS THAT HE WRAPPED UP HIS MEETING WITH PUTIN AFTER DISCUSSING THE PLAN AS THEY MET TODAY. STRESSING THAT THE CRISIS COULD BE SETTLED THROUGH, QUOTE, RESPONSIBLE DIALOG. ABC NEWS FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT TOM SOUFI BURRIDGE IS IN KYIV, UKRAINE, WITH THE LATEST REACTION. >> YET THREE AND A HALF HOURS OF TALKS, CAROL, BETWEEN PRESIDENT XI AND PUTIN. I MEAN, IN MANY WAYS, WAS NOT ABOUT UKRAINE. THIS WAS ABOUT A DEEPER ECONOMIC RELATIONSHIP, A DEEPER POLITICAL RELATIONSHIP, AND REALLY A PITCH, I THINK, FROM THESE TWO LEADERS TO MUCH OF THE WORLD LIKE AFRICA, THE MIDDLE EAST, LATIN AMERICAN LEADERS TO TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S TAKE THE WORLD IN A NEW DIRECTION. LET'S MOVE AWAY FROM DOMINANCE BY THE UNITED STATES AND ITS ALLIES. AND LET'S CREATE A MORE MULTIPOLAR WORLD . I MEAN, THAT'S CERTAINLY WHAT THE RUSSIANS AND CHINESE ARE TRYING TO DO IN THIS SUMMIT. AND I THINK ONE KEY LINE FOR ME IN THE JOINT STATEMENT FROM THE RUSSIAN AND THE CHINESE TONIGHT WAS THIS KIND OF IMPLICIT WARNING TO THE WEST AND UKRAINE TO SAY DON'T LET THE CONFLICT HERE SPIRAL OUT OF CONTROL. AND , YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THE UKRAINIANS ARE PLANNING A VERY BIG OFFENSIVE. THEY'RE DOING IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE UNITED STATES. THE UNITED STATES AND ITS ALLIES ARE TRAINING UKRAINIAN TROOPS. THEY'RE PROVIDING A LOT OF WEAPONRY TO HELPING UKRAINE PLAN THIS OFFENSIVE. AND THE CHINESE, BY STANDING SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH THE RUSSIANS, SEEM TO BE SAYING, DON'T LET THE CONFLICT ESCALATE FURTHER I >> THANKS FOR STREAMING WITH US. OTHER HEADLINES WE'RE FOLLOWING FOR YOU THIS HOUR IN THE WET WINTER WEATHER REFUSING AND IN CALIFORNIA AS THE STATE FACES ANOTHER ATMOSPHERIC RIVER. HEAVY RAIN DRENCHING SAN FRANCISCO, L.A. AND SAN DIEGO. AND A FLOOD ADVISORY HAS BEEN ISSUED ALL THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE GROUND IS SATURATED AND UNSTABLE, WHICH MEANS THAT MORE MUDSLIDES ARE POSSIBLE. THE NATION'S SECOND LARGEST SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS SHUT DOWN FOR A THREE DAY STRIKE. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF WORKERS AND LOS ANGELES UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT WALKED OFF THE JOB TODAY OVER STALLED CONTRACT TALKS. WORKERS AND TEACHERS PICKETING FOR BETTER WAGES AND INCREASED STAFFING. CONGRESSMAN ADAM SCHIFF SAYING AT A PRESS CONFERENCE THAT STRIKERS EARNING POVERTY WAGES AND TALK ABOUT A WALK. JAPAN, OH, THEY PUNCH THEIR TICKET TO THE WORLD . BASEBALL CLASSIC FINALS LAST NIGHT WITH A THRILLING COME FROM BEHIND WIN AGAINST MEXICO. THE TEAM AND THE JAPANESE ANNOUNCERS CALLING THE GAME BOTH GOING WILD. >> GOOSE, YOU GOT TO LOVE IT. JAPAN WILL PLAY TEEMU SAY NOW TONIGHT. THAT'S IN MIAMI. THE U.S. LOOKING TO REPEAT CHAMPIONS. BY THE WAY, JAPAN LOOKING TO CLAIM THEIR THIRD TITLE. NOW TO A STORY I HOPE HELPS YOU PROCESS DEATH IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT WAY, MAYBE EVEN OPENING UP A DOOR FOR YOU THAT MAY HELP YOU FIND COMFORT AND MEANING IN THAT LOSS THROUGH THE BEAUTY AND SOLITUDE OF ART. PATRICK RINGLEY SURE DID. MATTER OF FACT, NOT ONLY WAS HE ABLE TO GRIEVE IN A WAY HE NEVER EXPECTED, BUT HE TURNED HIS LIFE AROUND INSIDE ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND FAMOUS MUSEUMS IN THE WORLD FROM GUARDS THE VIEW. THE THING ABOUT WORKS OF ART IS THAT THERE'S STILL AND THERE SILENCE AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL AND SILENT KEEPERS OF HISTORY THAT HAD HELP. PATRICK BRINKLEY SEE THE WORLD DIFFERENTLY. PROCESSING HIS INCONSOLABLE GRIEF WITHIN THESE GALLERIES. GRIEF IS A LOSS OF RHYTHM. IT'S ONE IN TO SOMETHING HAPPENS AND YOU STAND BACK . DON'T KIND OF CONNECT IN THE SAME WAY THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE THINGS HAVE STOPPED. AND I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO REMAIN STANDING STILL FOR A WHILE WITH MY HEAD UP LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS BEAUTIFUL ART, BEAUTIFUL ART THAT LED TO ALL THE BEAUTY IN THE WORLD. PATRIC'S NEW MEMOIR OF HOW WE FOUND MEANING WITHIN ALL THESE MASTERPIECES AT NEW YORK'S FAMED METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART. TWO MILLION PIECES THAT WOULD HELP HIM UNDERSTAND LIFE AND DEATH IN A WHOLE NEW WAY WHILE TAKING ON A CAREER CHANGE HE NEVER SAW COMING. >> LOOKING AT THESE MASTERPIECES, BEING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, YOU COULD SEE YOUR BROTHER, YOU COULD FEEL YOUR BROTHER. OH, ABSOLUTELY. I SPENT THE GREATER PART OF TWO YEARS IN A WAY, SORT OF SITTING BY A BEDSIDE OF SOMEBODY THAT WAS ILL. AND I THINK WHEN YOU DO THAT, THERE IS SOMETHING PROFOUNDLY SPIRITUAL KIND OF GOING ON AND I THINK MOST OF US COME TO MUSEUMS IN SEARCH OF QUIETUDE AND GRATITUDE. PATRICK WAS DRAWN TO THE MET DURING ONE OF THE WORST TIMES OF HIS LIFE, HIS JOB AT THE PRESTIGIOUS "NEW YORKER" MAGAZINE HIT A WALL WHILE AT THE SAME TIME HIS OLDER BROTHER TOM WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A FATAL CANCER. >> TELL ME ABOUT YOUR BROTHER, TOM . HE WAS VERY BRILLIANT, BUT HE WAS ALSO JUST SUCH A REGULAR DUDE, SUCH SORT OF A STRAIGHTFORWARD KIND OF A GUY . HE DEALT WITH IT WITH WITH GREAT BRAVERY. AND GRACE AND FOCUSING ON THE THINGS THAT HE LOVED THAT REALLY MOTIVATED ME EM NGUYEN TO WANT TO COME TO THE MAT. GRACE THAT GUIDED PATRICK HERE TO SEEK REFUGE IN THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACE HE KNEW , HOPING THAT HE TOO COULD FIND SUCH PEACE WITH HIS LIFE. AND NOT ONLY WOULD PATRICK FADE INTO THE STILLNESS HE FOUND AROUND HIM, BUT HE WOULD EMBRACE IT WHEN HIS BROTHER TOM PASSED AWAY NEARLY THREE YEARS AFTER HIS DIAGNOSIS, PATRICK LEFT HIS MUNDANE LIFE AT THE MAGAZINE AND BECAME A MUSEUM GUARD. AFTER TOM DIED AND HE STARTED WORKING AS A GUARD HERE. YOU WROTE THAT YOU DIDN'T EVEN NEED TO CLOSE YOUR EYES TO FEEL WHAT YOU WISH TO FEEL. >> I HAD ALL THESE PAINTINGS TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, AND MANY OF THOSE PAINTINGS, THEY GAVE OFF A FEELING OF PRESENCE, SOME SORT OF POWER THAT REMINDED ME OF TOM . AND I WAS REMINDED, ESPECIALLY WHEN I CAME TO THE MET THESE PEOPLE WHO LIVED WITH INTENSE SUFFERING. AND YOU LOOK AT THESE IMAGES OF BEARING THE CROSS. >> AND I JUST FOUND THAT SO MOVE IN MOVING PARALLELS BETWEEN ONE MAN WHO DIED FAR TOO YOUNG AND PATRICK'S BROTHER WHO DIED AT THE AGE OF 26 STEPHANIE RAMOS. ALL OF US HAVE SUFFERED OR BEEN IN THE COMPANY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY BASIC. SO IT'S THE ONE WHERE YOU USED TO HAVE THIS MAKES YOU FEEL, I WOULD SAY I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ONE WORD, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT YOUR HEART BREAKS, YOUR HEART BEGINS AT THE SAME TIME, IT FILLS YOU UP, YOU KNOW, IT EXPANDS YOU SOMEHOW. GROWTH AND GRATITUDE. PATRICK NEVER EXPECTED AS HE MADE HIS WAY FROM THE LABYRINTH OF PAUL'S DOWNSTAIRS TO THE BRIGHT GALLERIES ABOVE, SPENDING COUNTLESS HOURS ROAMING THESE CORRIDORS, FINDING CAMARADERIE THROUGH SOLITUDE. AND THE FELLOW GUARDS WHO STOOD WATCH IN STILLNESS RIGHT WITH . I KNOW THIS WILL BE A TOUGH QUESTION TO ANSWER. WHAT IS THE ONE PIECE YOU KEPT COMING BACK TO ? >> THERE'S A PAINTING IN THE OLD MASTER'S WING, PETER BOYD, THE HARVESTER'S. AND SOMETIMES YOU WANT TO THINK OF THESE PAINTINGS LIKE WINDOWS AND THE HARVESTER'S IS ONE OF THE GRANDEST WINDOWS. IT JUST REMINDS ME OF HOW ALL OF US WE LIVE OUR LITTLE LIVES IN THE FOREGROUND. WHILE THIS VAST SORT OF GLIMMERING WORLD SPREADS OUT AROUND US . BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE LOVE ABOUT THESE PEOPLE AND THE FELLOWSHIP THAT THEY'RE HAVING. SPEAKING OF FELLOWSHIP, CLEARLY NOBODY WILL EVER REPLACE YOUR BROTHER. BUT YOU FOUND A WHOLE NEW TYPE OF BROTHERHOOD AND SISTERHOOD WITH ALL THE GUARDS HERE. >> YES, THE GUARDS HERE ARE EXTRAORDINARY. THERE'S MORE THAN FIVE HUNDRED GUARDS THAT WORK HERE. THEY ARE FROM EVERY COUNTRY YOU CAN IMAGINE, EVERY BACKGROUND YOU CAN IMAGINE AND SO MANY HAVE DONE ALL DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THEIR LIVES. AND I FOUND THE RICHNESS OF THE GUARD CORPS TO BE ONE OF THE RICHEST COLLECTIONS OF ANYTHING IN THIS MUSEUM. >> AN UNFORGETTABLE EXPERIENCE THAT PROVED PATRICK COULD FIND ALL THE BEAUTY IN THE WORLD THROUGH THE GIFT OF BEING A GUARD AND OBSERVING EVERY DAY HOW THE POWER OF ART CAN PLAY OUT IN ALL OUR LIVES. HOW IS TOM PART OF ALL THE BEAUTY IN THE WORLD? WELL, FOR ONE , HE IS A BEAUTIFUL PERSON AND HE WAS MY BIG BROTHER AND I LEARNED A GREAT DEAL FROM HIM. FOR ANOTHER, THAT PERIOD OF MY LIFE WAS FULL OF GREAT BEAUTY AND IT WAS FULL OF GREAT PAIN. FOR ALL MY FAMILY. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF HUMAN EXISTENCE, THAT THERE IS PAIN, THERE IS STRUGGLE, THERE IS LOSS. WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S COMING FOR US IN THE END AND WE HAVE TO MAKE MEANING OF THAT. WE HAVE TO FACE IT. AND MY THANKS AGAIN TO PATRICK FOR LETTING ME TELL A STORY. THANKS FOR STREAMING

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