Transcript for New York grand jury wrapping up investigation into Trump hush money payment
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FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP FACING
A POSSIBLE INDICTMENT IN
THE STORMY DANIELS HUSH MONEY
CASE.
SECURITY PLANS FROM LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND THE SECRET
SERVICE STRAIGHT AHEAD.
TREASURY SECRETARY JANET YELLEN
SAYING THE GOVERNMENT
WILL REMAIN VIGILANT
AS CONCERNS GROW FOR
OUR BANKING SYSTEM.
NOW, THOSE REMARKS ARE
IMPACTING OUR BANKS.
BANK STOCKS TODAY.
THE U.S. BLASTING CHINA'S
PROPOSAL FOR PEACE IN UKRAINE
AS CHINA'S JINPING MEETS
WITH RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR
PUTIN.
WHAT AMERICA'S TOP DIPLOMAT
IS SAYING AND HOW JAPAN'S PRIME
MINISTER STOLE SOME OF XI'S
THUNDER.
>> BUT WE DO BEGIN WITH FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP FACING
A POSSIBLE INDICTMENT IN
THE STORMY DANIELS HUSH MONEY
CASE.
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
STEPPING UP SECURITY IN CASE OF
POTENTIAL PROTEST AND TODAY
IS THE DAY THE FORMER
PRESIDENT CLAIMED WITHOUT
EVIDENCE THAT HE WOULD
BE ARRESTED.
SO FAR , THAT HASN'T HAPPENED.
BUT SOURCES DO TELL
ABC'S AARON KATERSKY THAT
THE SECRET SERVICE
IS COORDINATING WITH THE NYPD
ANYWAY, DEVELOPING SECURITY
PLANS IN THE EVENT THAT TRUMP
IS INDICTED AND ARRAIGNED IN
COURT IN LOWER MANHATTAN.
RIGHT NOW, THE GRAND JURY
IS WEIGHING POTENTIAL CHARGES
RELATED TO THOSE HUSH MONEY
PAYMENTS TO THE STAR PRIOR
TO THE 2016 ELECTION.
TRUMP HAS ACKNOWLEDGED
PAYING STORMY DANIELS
ONE HUNDRED THIRTY THOUSAND
DOLLARS, BUT HE SAYS HE DID
NOTHING WRONG.
PROSECUTOR SEE IT DIFFERENTLY
AND ARE LOOKING INTO WHETHER
TRUMP POTENTIALLY VIOLATED
ELECTION LAWS AND FALSIFIED
DOCUMENTS WHILE TRYING
TO CONCEAL THAT PAYMENT.
JOINING US NOW, ABC NEWS SENIOR
REPORTER KATHERINE FAULDERS.
SHE'S LIVE IN ORLANDO, WHERE
HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE MEETING
FOR THE ANNUAL RETREAT.
ALSO, OUR SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE
REPORTER, AARON KATERSKY, LIVE
IN OUR NEW YORK STUDIO THERE.
PLUS, OUR LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR
AND LAW PROFESSOR KIMBERLY
WAILI.
ALL RIGHT, ERIN, IF THIS
INDICTMENT DOES COME DOWN,
LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS
AND SECRET SERVICE AGENTS THERE
ARE COORDINATING SECURITY.
>> THIS WOULD BE UNPRECEDENTED.
AND UNLIKE ANY OTHER CRIMINAL
DEFENDANT, WHITE COLLAR OR
OTHERWISE, THAT WE HAVE EVER
SEEN BECAUSE NO FORMER
PRESIDENT AND SECRET SERVICE
PROTECTEE HAS EVER COME INTO
NEW YORK CRIMINAL COURT.
SO IT APPEARS THAT SHOULD
THE GRAND JURY RETURN AN
INDICTMENT IN THE EARLIEST, WE
THINK THAT COULD HAPPEN WOULD
BE SOMETIME ON WEDNESDAY AT
THE EARLIEST.
THEN IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THE THE
SECRET SERVICE WOULD BE MADE
AWARE AND WOULD ARRANGE TRUMP'S
TRANSPORTATION HERE TO NEW YORK
SO THAT HE COULD COME INTO
COURT AND BE BOOKED
AND PROCESSED AND ARRAIGNED.
WE WOULD NOT KNOW WHAT
THE CHARGES ARE UNTIL THAT
ARRAIGNMENT.
INDICTMENTS IN NEW YORK REMAIN
SEALED UNTIL THE DEFENDANT
APPEARS IN COURT.
SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE SPECIFIC
IDEA ABOUT THE CHARGES.
GENERALLY, WE KNOW WHAT
THEY INVOLVE, BUT WE WOULDN'T
HAVE SPECIFICS UNLESS AND UNTIL
TRUMP APPEARS IN COURT.
ALL OF THAT WILL GO DOWN
WITH THE HELP OF THE POLICE,
THE SECRET SERVICE, THE OFFICE
OF COURT ADMINISTRATION AND IT
WOULD INVOLVE SOME DEGREE OF
SECURITY, NOT ONLY INSIDE
THE BUILDING, BUT ALSO OUTSIDE,
BECAUSE, AS TRUMP CALLED FOR
OVER THE WEEKEND, PROTEST,
SOME MAY BE PREPARED TO TAKE
HIM UP ON THAT CALL KYRA.
>> SO THEN WE SAW SOME TRUMP
SUPPORTERS DEMONSTRATING IN
NEW YORK YESTERDAY, BUT IT
WASN'T TOO RAMBUNCTIOUS AT ALL.
>> IT WAS NOT.
THERE WERE BARELY ANY PEOPLE
DOWN THERE.
THE POLICE DROPPED OFF
SOME BARRICADES.
AND IN CASE THAT'S NECESSARY,
BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS MINDFUL
ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE SEEING
ONLINE FOLLOWING THE FORMER
PRESIDENT'S CALL FOR PROTEST.
THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN
RHETORIC THAT WAS VIOLENT, THAT
THAT WAS THREATENING.
IN FACT, ONE LAW ENFORCEMENT
BULLETIN WE HAD TO LOOK AT,
KYRA, SAID THAT THEY HADN'T
SEEN THIS KIND OF AN UPTICK IN
THE VIOLENT RHETORIC ONLINE
SINCE TRUMP'S FLORIDA HOME AT
MAR-A-LAGO WAS RAIDED BY THE
FBI BACK IN AUGUST.
SO THIS CLEARLY HAS INCITED
SOME PASSIONS.
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BULLETIN
NOTED THAT IT'S NOT KNOWN
WHETHER TRUMP STILL HOLDS
THE KIND OF SWAY THAT HE DID
SAY, BACK ON JANUARY 6TH.
BUT THERE STILL ARE SOME TRUMP
SUPPORTERS THAT ARE WILLING
TO ACT ON HIS BEHALF.
>> SO CLEARLY, THE STAKES ARE
INCREDIBLY HIGH HERE FOR
PROSECUTORS.
IF THEY DO CHARGE TRUMP.
DO YOU THINK THE CHARGES WOULD
STICK OR IS THERE A CHANCE THAT
THEY COULD JUST GET LAUGHED OUT
OF COURT?
I THINK ALVIN BRAGG IS PROBABLY
BEING METICULOUS ABOUT PUTTING
TOGETHER AN INDICTMENT, IF THAT
IS INDEED COMING.
IT'S A LITTLE COMPLICATED
BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE TO PROVE
THAT THERE WERE FALSIFICATIONS
MADE IN BUSINESS RECORDS
RELATING TO THIS UNDERLYING
PAYMENT.
THAT WAS ALSO A VIOLATION OF
CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAW.
SO THERE'S TWO LAYERS THERE.
THAT BEING SAID , I ALSO THINK
IT'S COMPLICATED TO IMPANEL
A JURY.
MANHATTAN IS PROBABLY NOT
FILLED WITH TRUMP SUPPORTERS,
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE
JURORS IF IT GETS TO TRIAL THAT
ARE GOING TO BE OPEN MINDED.
THAT BEING SAID , THIS IS ONE
OF FIVE ONGOING CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATIONS OF DONALD TRUMP
.
AND GIVEN SORT OF WHAT'S AT
STAKE FOR DEMOCRACY, WHICH
REALLY IS WHAT ARE
THE GUARDRAILS TO DISTANCE
IDENTIFIES FUTURE PRESIDENTS
TO USE THE MASSIVE POWER OF
THE OFFICE FOR PERSONAL GAIN OR
CORRUPTION POTENTIALLY?
I THINK THE STAKES ARE REALLY
HIGH FOR DEMOCRACY AS WELL
AS PERSONALLY FOR THE FORMER
PRESIDENT .
>> SO, KATHERINE , HOW ARE
REPUBLICANS THERE THIS FAUCI
RETREAT, RATHER, REACTING
TO ALL THIS TODAY AND HAS THERE
BEEN ANY BUZZ ABOUT PROTESTS?
WELL, THERE HAS BEEN.
WE KNOW THE SPEAKER OF
THE HOUSE, KEVIN MCCARTHY, WAS
ASKED ABOUT THIS, ABOUT
THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S COMMENTS
CALLING FOR PROTEST.
MCCARTHY SAID THAT THAT WASN'T
REALLY WHAT TRUMP SAID , EVEN
THOUGH HE DID POSTED ONLINE
AND SAID THAT HE'S NOT CALLING
FOR PROTESTS, THAT THERE SHOULD
NOT BE VIOLENCE.
HE'S URGING CALM.
BUT LOOK, THIS
REPUBLICAN RETREAT, KYRA, WHICH
THEY COME DOWN HERE FOR
A COUPLE OF DAYS AND HAVE THESE
CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS TO BANG
OUT SOME POLICY MATTERS REALLY
WAS OVERSHADOWED BY TRUMP.
MCCARTHY HAD HIS COMMITTEE
CHAIRS WHILE THEY WERE DOWN
HERE ANNOUNCING AN
INVESTIGATION INTO
THE MANHATTAN D.A. SO THEY WERE
ALL PEPPERED WITH QUESTIONS
ABOUT IT.
>> ALL OF THEM REALLY COMING
TO HIS DEFENSE, THOUGH,
AND KIM, TRUMP'S FORMER FIXER,
MICHAEL COHEN, IS NOT
THE STRONGEST KEY WITNESS,
CLEARLY.
SO PROSECUTORS MUST HAVE
SOME SORT OF EVIDENCE TO BACK
UP ALL OF HIS CLAIMS AS WELL.
RIGHT?
RIGHT.
WE KNOW, OF COURSE, AS YOU
SAID , IT WAS THE GRAND JURIES
ARE SECRET, BUT WE DO KNOW NOT
JUST MICHAEL COHEN, BUT
POTENTIALLY DAVID , WHO WAS IN
THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER, WHO KNOW
INVOLVED IN THESE CATCH
AND KILL PROGRAMS ON BEHALF OF
DONALD TRUMP, WHERE PEOPLE WERE
PAID OFF IN ADVANCE OF
THE ELECTION, ALLEGEDLY,
AS WELL AS ALAN MUSSELBURGH,
HIS FORMER CFO OF THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION.
PLED GUILTY TO TAX FRAUD
AND OTHER CRIMES.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT ALVIN BRAGG HAS AND HIS
PROSECUTORS AND THE GRAND JURY
HAVE COLLECTED.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING
TO BE TRANSLATED INTO ACTUAL
ALLEGATIONS IN POTENTIAL
CRIMINAL INDICTMENT, KIND OF
CONNECTING THOSE DOTS WILL HAVE
TO BE DONE AFTER WE SEE ALL OF
THE YOU THE PAPERWORK.
THAT BEING SAID , YOU KNOW,
THE FACT THAT THIS
IS POTENTIALLY A CASE THAT
WOULD JUST BE THROUGH WITNESSES
DOES NOT MAKE IT FATAL AT
THE GET GO .
LOTS OF BOTH CIVIL AND CRIMINAL
CASES ARE BUILT AROUND WITNESS
TESTIMONY.
AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE
AGAIN HOW MANY AND WHAT KIND OF
INFORMATION ALVIN BRAGG HAS PUT
TOGETHER THROUGH THE VARIOUS
PEOPLE WHO'VE APPEARED BEFORE
THE GRAND JURY.
>> ALL RIGHT.
STAY TUNED.
I'M CATHERINE AARON.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
NOW TO THE HEALTH OF
THE BANKING SYSTEM.
WALL STREET IS FINALLY STARTING
TO STABILIZE WITH STOCKS UP
AGAIN TODAY, BUILDING OFF
YESTERDAY'S RALLY.
REGIONAL BANKS ARE SURGING
TODAY, LED BY FIRST REPUBLIC.
SHARES OF THE STRUGGLING BANK
ARE UP ABOUT 40% AFTER LOSING
NEARLY HALF OF ITS VALUE DURING
TRADING YESTERDAY.
>> REMARKS FROM TREASURY
SECRETARY JANET YELLEN REALLY
HELPED THOSE BANK STOCKS TODAY
AFTER SHE DEFENDED THE DECISIVE
AND FORCEFUL ACTIONS
BY REGULATORS TO PREVENT
MORE BANKS FROM FAILING
AND PLEDGING MORE HELP IF
NEEDED IN THE FUTURE.
>> SUSAN IS COMMITTED
TO ENSURING THE ONGOING HEALTH
AND COMPETITIVENESS OF
OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY
AND REGIONAL BANKING
INSTITUTIONS.
SAFE AND SOUND BANKING SYSTEM
IS INTEGRAL TO THE HEALTH OF
THE AMERICAN ECONOMY, AND WE
ARE SQUARELY FOCUSED ON DOING
OUR JOB.
AND YOU SHOULD RISK ASSURED
THAT WE WILL REMAIN VIGILANT.
SO HOW SAFE IS OUR MONEY?
THAT'S WHERE WE BRING IN
OUR BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT
ALEXIS CHRISTOFOROUS TO TRY
AND BREAK IT ALL DOWN.
SO WHAT STUCK OUT TO YOU FROM
YELLING'S REMARKS?
>> WELL, I THINK, KYRA, HER
REMARKS ARE THE CLEAREST SIGNAL
YET THAT THE GOVERNMENT
IS STANDING BY , READY
TO INTERVENE AND BACKSTOP
MORE DEPOSITS IF ANOTHER BANK
WERE TO FAIL.
I ALSO FOUND IT TO BE VERY
REASSURING THAT SHE SAID THINGS
APPEAR TO BE STABILIZING.
NOW WE'RE SEEING DEPOSIT
WITHDRAWALS FROM REGIONAL BANKS
SLOWING, IN SOME CASES EVEN
REVERSING SINCE THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT STAGED ITS
INTERVENTION LAST WEEK.
OF COURSE, THAT'S WHEN FEDERAL
REGULATORS USE THEIR EMERGENCY
POWERS TO GUARANTEE UNINSURED
DEPOSITS THAT NOW COLLAPSE
SILICON VALLEY BANK
AND SIGNATURE BANK.
AND THEY ALSO SET UP AT THAT
TIME A NEW FEDERAL RESERVE
LENDING PROGRAM TO ALLOW BANKS
TO MEET WITHDRAWAL REQUESTS,
REQUESTS.
AND , OF COURSE, ALL OF THIS,
KIRAN, IS IN AN EFFORT TO TRY
AND SHORE UP CONFIDENCE IN
THE BANKING SYSTEM.
SO THE FED IS MEETING TOMORROW
FOR THIS HIGHLY ANTICIPATED
MOVE ON INTEREST RATES.
SO HOW DO YOU SEE THAT PLAYING
OUT?
>> WE HAVE A VERY DIVIDED
WALL STREET ON WHETHER OR NOT
THE FED IS GOING TO RAISE
RATES.
THEY'VE BEEN IN THIS FIGHT
AGAINST HIGH INFLATION NOW FOR
OVER A YEAR, CONTINUALLY
RAISING INTEREST RATES.
IT'S THOSE HIGHER RATES THAT
ACTUALLY GOT A LOT OF THE BANKS
IN TROUBLE.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IF THE FED
THINKS IT'S GOING TO ROLL
THE DICE HERE AND RAISE RATES
AGAIN, POSSIBLY SQUEEZING
THE BANKING SYSTEM EVEN MORE ,
OR WILL IT JUST LAY LOW AND LET
THINGS SETTLE IN THE BANKING
SYSTEM?
YOU CAN SEE THERE WE'VE HAD
EIGHT INTEREST RATE INCREASES
IN JUST THE PAST YEAR AS THE
FED TRIES TO WRAP ITS ARMS
AROUND INFLATION, WHICH
IS STILL RUNNING HOT AT
SIX PERCENT.
>> SO IN THE WAKE OF THIS
CRISIS, WE'RE LEARNING THAT
THE FDIC ACTUALLY COULD EXPAND
ITS COVERAGE AND INSURE
AMERICANS BEYOND THAT,
TWO HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND
DOLLAR THRESHOLD THAT YOU'VE
BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH US
DAILY.
>> IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING?
WELL, I THINK IT'S A LONG WAY
FROM BECOMING A REALITY, BUT
IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING
THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WILL CONSIDER.
AND IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN
BOOSTING CONFIDENCE IN
OUR BANKING SYSTEM.
JANET YELLEN, TREASURY
SECRETARY YELLEN WAS ASKED
ABOUT THIS TODAY WHEN SHE
ADDRESSED THE BANKING
ASSOCIATION AND SHE SAID THERE
WILL BE A TIME FOR US TO LOOK
AT THOSE RULES.
RIGHT NOW, THOUGH, WE WANT
TO STABILIZE THE BANKING
SYSTEM.
FED REGULATORS, BY THE WAY,
WOULD PROBABLY NEED EMERGENCY
AUTHORITY TO ENSURE DEPOSITS
ABOVE TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY
THOUSAND DOLLARS WITHOUT
THE CONSENT OF CONGRESS.
AND AS WE KNOW, WE HAVE A VERY
DIVIDED CONGRESS.
IT WOULD BE HARD TO BELIEVE
SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD
ACTUALLY PASS.
REPUBLICANS ARE ALREADY PUSHING
BACK ON THIS IDEA AND ALSO
CREDIT SUISSE THAT WE'VE BEEN
TALKING A LOT ABOUT SAYS IT
WILL CONTINUE TO HAND OUT
BONUSES AND PAY RAISES TO THOSE
ELIGIBLE.
OKAY, WHAT DO THEY MEAN THOSE
ELIGIBLE?
>> RIGHT.
THAT IS A BIG QUESTION.
MARK.
REMEMBER, THIS BANK JUST GOT
BAILED OUT BY ITS LARGER RIVAL
FOR MORE THAN THREE BILLION
DOLLARS.
I THINK THE IDEA THAT THE BANK
IS GOING TO PAY OUT BONUSES
IS NOT GOING TO SIT WELL
WITH LOTS OF FOLKS.
WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ARE
TOP TIER PEOPLE AT
CREDIT SUISSE OR ACROSS
THE COMPANY, WE JUST DON'T KNOW
.
A LEGISLATORS ARE ALSO NOW
ASKING FOR THE FORMER CEO OF
SILICON VALLEY BANK TO GIVE
BACK SOME OF THE MONEY HE MADE
OFF OF A STOCK SALE JUST
TWO WEEKS BEFORE HIS BANK
COLLAPSED.
GREG BECKER SOLD THREE POINT
SIX DOLLARS MILLION WORTH OF
HIS COMPANY'S STOCK.
SO AND THOSE PEOPLE AT SVB,
BY THE WAY, WERE ALSO GIVEN
BONUSES JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS
BEFORE THE BANK COLLAPSED.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE
IF SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE NEED TH.
DO WE THINK HE'S A PSYCHOPATH?
ONLY ON HULU.
A RUSSIAN PRESIDENT , VLADIMIR
PUTIN, SAYS THAT HE'LL CONSIDER
A PEACE PROPOSAL FROM CHINA'S
PRESIDENT TO END THE WAR IN
UKRAINE.
HOWEVER, US SECRETARY OF STATE
ANTHONY BLINKEN SAYS THIS
IS JUST A STALLING TACTIC AT
BEST.
CHINA'S LEADER SAYS THAT HE
WRAPPED UP HIS MEETING
WITH PUTIN AFTER DISCUSSING
THE PLAN AS THEY MET TODAY.
STRESSING THAT THE CRISIS COULD
BE SETTLED THROUGH, QUOTE,
RESPONSIBLE DIALOG.
ABC NEWS FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT
TOM SOUFI BURRIDGE IS IN KYIV,
UKRAINE, WITH THE LATEST
REACTION.
>> YET THREE AND A HALF HOURS
OF TALKS, CAROL, BETWEEN
PRESIDENT XI AND PUTIN.
I MEAN, IN MANY WAYS, WAS NOT
ABOUT UKRAINE.
THIS WAS ABOUT A DEEPER
ECONOMIC RELATIONSHIP, A DEEPER
POLITICAL RELATIONSHIP,
AND REALLY A PITCH, I THINK,
FROM THESE TWO LEADERS TO MUCH
OF THE WORLD LIKE AFRICA,
THE MIDDLE EAST, LATIN AMERICAN
LEADERS TO TO SAY, YOU KNOW,
LET'S TAKE THE WORLD IN A NEW
DIRECTION.
LET'S MOVE AWAY FROM DOMINANCE
BY THE UNITED STATES AND ITS
ALLIES.
AND LET'S CREATE A MORE
MULTIPOLAR WORLD .
I MEAN, THAT'S CERTAINLY WHAT
THE RUSSIANS AND CHINESE ARE
TRYING TO DO IN THIS SUMMIT.
AND I THINK ONE KEY LINE FOR ME
IN THE JOINT STATEMENT FROM
THE RUSSIAN AND THE CHINESE
TONIGHT WAS THIS KIND OF
IMPLICIT WARNING TO THE WEST
AND UKRAINE TO SAY DON'T LET
THE CONFLICT HERE SPIRAL OUT OF
CONTROL.
AND , YOU KNOW, WE KNOW
THE UKRAINIANS ARE PLANNING
A VERY BIG OFFENSIVE.
THEY'RE DOING IT IN CONJUNCTION
WITH THE UNITED STATES.
THE UNITED STATES AND ITS
ALLIES ARE TRAINING UKRAINIAN
TROOPS.
THEY'RE PROVIDING A LOT OF
WEAPONRY TO HELPING UKRAINE
PLAN THIS OFFENSIVE.
AND THE CHINESE, BY STANDING
SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH THE
RUSSIANS, SEEM TO BE SAYING,
DON'T LET THE CONFLICT ESCALATE
FURTHER I
>> THANKS FOR STREAMING
WITH US.
OTHER HEADLINES WE'RE FOLLOWING
FOR YOU THIS HOUR IN THE WET
WINTER WEATHER REFUSING AND IN
CALIFORNIA AS THE STATE FACES
ANOTHER ATMOSPHERIC RIVER.
HEAVY RAIN DRENCHING
SAN FRANCISCO, L.A. AND SAN
DIEGO.
AND A FLOOD ADVISORY HAS BEEN
ISSUED ALL THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA.
THE GROUND IS SATURATED
AND UNSTABLE, WHICH MEANS THAT
MORE MUDSLIDES ARE POSSIBLE.
THE NATION'S SECOND LARGEST
SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS SHUT DOWN
FOR A THREE DAY STRIKE.
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF WORKERS
AND LOS ANGELES UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT WALKED OFF THE JOB
TODAY OVER STALLED CONTRACT
TALKS.
WORKERS AND TEACHERS PICKETING
FOR BETTER WAGES AND INCREASED
STAFFING.
CONGRESSMAN ADAM SCHIFF SAYING
AT A PRESS CONFERENCE THAT
STRIKERS EARNING POVERTY WAGES
AND TALK ABOUT A WALK.
JAPAN, OH, THEY PUNCH
THEIR TICKET TO THE WORLD .
BASEBALL CLASSIC FINALS LAST
NIGHT WITH A THRILLING COME
FROM BEHIND WIN AGAINST MEXICO.
THE TEAM AND THE JAPANESE
ANNOUNCERS CALLING THE GAME
BOTH GOING WILD.
>> GOOSE, YOU GOT TO LOVE IT.
JAPAN WILL PLAY TEEMU SAY NOW
TONIGHT.
THAT'S IN MIAMI.
THE U.S. LOOKING TO REPEAT
CHAMPIONS.
BY THE WAY, JAPAN LOOKING
TO CLAIM THEIR THIRD TITLE.
NOW TO A STORY I HOPE HELPS YOU
PROCESS DEATH IN A TOTALLY
DIFFERENT WAY, MAYBE EVEN
OPENING UP A DOOR FOR YOU THAT
MAY HELP YOU FIND COMFORT
AND MEANING IN THAT LOSS
THROUGH THE BEAUTY AND SOLITUDE
OF ART.
PATRICK RINGLEY SURE DID.
MATTER OF FACT, NOT ONLY WAS HE
ABLE TO GRIEVE IN A WAY HE
NEVER EXPECTED, BUT HE TURNED
HIS LIFE AROUND INSIDE ONE OF
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND FAMOUS
MUSEUMS IN THE WORLD FROM
GUARDS THE VIEW.
THE THING ABOUT WORKS OF ART
IS THAT THERE'S STILL AND THERE
SILENCE AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL,
BEAUTIFUL AND SILENT KEEPERS OF
HISTORY THAT HAD HELP.
PATRICK BRINKLEY SEE THE WORLD
DIFFERENTLY.
PROCESSING HIS INCONSOLABLE
GRIEF WITHIN THESE GALLERIES.
GRIEF IS A LOSS OF RHYTHM.
IT'S ONE IN TO SOMETHING
HAPPENS AND YOU STAND BACK .
DON'T KIND OF CONNECT IN
THE SAME WAY THAT YOU MIGHT
HAVE BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE
THINGS HAVE STOPPED.
AND I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT
FOR ME TO REMAIN STANDING STILL
FOR A WHILE WITH MY HEAD UP
LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS
BEAUTIFUL ART, BEAUTIFUL ART
THAT LED TO ALL THE BEAUTY IN
THE WORLD.
PATRIC'S NEW MEMOIR OF HOW WE
FOUND MEANING WITHIN ALL THESE
MASTERPIECES AT NEW YORK'S
FAMED METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF
ART.
TWO MILLION PIECES THAT WOULD
HELP HIM UNDERSTAND LIFE
AND DEATH IN A WHOLE NEW WAY
WHILE TAKING ON A CAREER CHANGE
HE NEVER SAW COMING.
>> LOOKING AT THESE
MASTERPIECES, BEING IN THIS
ENVIRONMENT, YOU COULD SEE
YOUR BROTHER, YOU COULD FEEL
YOUR BROTHER.
OH, ABSOLUTELY.
I SPENT THE GREATER PART OF
TWO YEARS IN A WAY, SORT OF
SITTING BY A BEDSIDE OF
SOMEBODY THAT WAS ILL.
AND I THINK WHEN YOU DO THAT,
THERE IS SOMETHING PROFOUNDLY
SPIRITUAL KIND OF GOING ON AND
I THINK MOST OF US COME
TO MUSEUMS IN SEARCH OF
QUIETUDE AND GRATITUDE.
PATRICK WAS DRAWN TO THE MET
DURING ONE OF THE WORST TIMES
OF HIS LIFE, HIS JOB AT
THE PRESTIGIOUS
"NEW YORKER" MAGAZINE HIT
A WALL WHILE AT THE SAME TIME
HIS OLDER BROTHER TOM WAS
DIAGNOSED WITH A FATAL CANCER.
>> TELL ME ABOUT YOUR BROTHER,
TOM .
HE WAS VERY BRILLIANT, BUT HE
WAS ALSO JUST SUCH A REGULAR
DUDE, SUCH SORT OF
A STRAIGHTFORWARD KIND OF A GUY
.
HE DEALT WITH IT WITH WITH
GREAT BRAVERY.
AND GRACE AND FOCUSING
ON THE THINGS THAT HE LOVED
THAT REALLY MOTIVATED ME
EM NGUYEN TO WANT TO COME
TO THE MAT.
GRACE THAT GUIDED PATRICK HERE
TO SEEK REFUGE IN THE MOST
BEAUTIFUL PLACE HE KNEW ,
HOPING THAT HE TOO COULD FIND
SUCH PEACE WITH HIS LIFE.
AND NOT ONLY WOULD PATRICK FADE
INTO THE STILLNESS HE FOUND
AROUND HIM, BUT HE WOULD
EMBRACE IT WHEN HIS BROTHER
TOM PASSED AWAY NEARLY
THREE YEARS AFTER HIS
DIAGNOSIS, PATRICK LEFT HIS
MUNDANE LIFE AT THE MAGAZINE
AND BECAME A MUSEUM GUARD.
AFTER TOM DIED AND HE STARTED
WORKING AS A GUARD HERE.
YOU WROTE THAT YOU DIDN'T EVEN
NEED TO CLOSE YOUR EYES TO FEEL
WHAT YOU WISH TO FEEL.
>> I HAD ALL THESE PAINTINGS
TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, AND MANY
OF THOSE PAINTINGS, THEY GAVE
OFF A FEELING OF PRESENCE,
SOME SORT OF POWER THAT
REMINDED ME OF TOM .
AND I WAS REMINDED, ESPECIALLY
WHEN I CAME TO THE MET THESE
PEOPLE WHO LIVED WITH INTENSE
SUFFERING.
AND YOU LOOK AT THESE IMAGES OF
BEARING THE CROSS.
>> AND I JUST FOUND THAT SO
MOVE IN MOVING PARALLELS
BETWEEN ONE MAN WHO DIED
FAR TOO YOUNG AND PATRICK'S
BROTHER WHO DIED AT THE AGE OF
26 STEPHANIE RAMOS.
ALL OF US HAVE SUFFERED OR BEEN
IN THE COMPANY OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE SUFFERING.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S
VERY BASIC.
SO IT'S THE ONE WHERE YOU USED
TO HAVE THIS MAKES YOU FEEL,
I WOULD SAY I DON'T KNOW IF
IT'S ONE WORD, BUT I WOULD SAY
THAT YOUR HEART BREAKS,
YOUR HEART BEGINS AT THE SAME
TIME, IT FILLS YOU UP, YOU
KNOW, IT EXPANDS YOU SOMEHOW.
GROWTH AND GRATITUDE.
PATRICK NEVER EXPECTED AS HE
MADE HIS WAY FROM THE LABYRINTH
OF PAUL'S DOWNSTAIRS TO THE
BRIGHT GALLERIES ABOVE,
SPENDING COUNTLESS HOURS
ROAMING THESE CORRIDORS,
FINDING CAMARADERIE THROUGH
SOLITUDE.
AND THE FELLOW GUARDS WHO STOOD
WATCH IN STILLNESS RIGHT WITH .
I KNOW THIS WILL BE A TOUGH
QUESTION TO ANSWER.
WHAT IS THE ONE PIECE YOU KEPT
COMING BACK TO ?
>> THERE'S A PAINTING IN
THE OLD MASTER'S WING,
PETER BOYD, THE HARVESTER'S.
AND SOMETIMES YOU WANT TO THINK
OF THESE PAINTINGS LIKE WINDOWS
AND THE HARVESTER'S IS ONE OF
THE GRANDEST WINDOWS.
IT JUST REMINDS ME OF HOW ALL
OF US WE LIVE OUR LITTLE LIVES
IN THE FOREGROUND.
WHILE THIS VAST SORT OF
GLIMMERING WORLD SPREADS OUT
AROUND US .
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DO THE BEST
WE CAN WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE
LOVE ABOUT THESE PEOPLE AND THE
FELLOWSHIP THAT THEY'RE HAVING.
SPEAKING OF FELLOWSHIP, CLEARLY
NOBODY WILL EVER REPLACE
YOUR BROTHER.
BUT YOU FOUND A WHOLE NEW TYPE
OF BROTHERHOOD AND SISTERHOOD
WITH ALL THE GUARDS HERE.
>> YES, THE GUARDS HERE ARE
EXTRAORDINARY.
THERE'S MORE THAN
FIVE HUNDRED GUARDS THAT WORK
HERE.
THEY ARE FROM EVERY COUNTRY YOU
CAN IMAGINE, EVERY BACKGROUND
YOU CAN IMAGINE AND SO MANY
HAVE DONE ALL DIFFERENT THINGS
WITH THEIR LIVES.
AND I FOUND THE RICHNESS OF
THE GUARD CORPS TO BE ONE OF
THE RICHEST COLLECTIONS OF
ANYTHING IN THIS MUSEUM.
>> AN UNFORGETTABLE EXPERIENCE
THAT PROVED PATRICK COULD FIND
ALL THE BEAUTY IN THE WORLD
THROUGH THE GIFT OF BEING
A GUARD AND OBSERVING EVERY DAY
HOW THE POWER OF ART CAN PLAY
OUT IN ALL OUR LIVES.
HOW IS TOM PART OF ALL
THE BEAUTY IN THE WORLD?
WELL, FOR ONE , HE IS A
BEAUTIFUL PERSON AND HE WAS
MY BIG BROTHER AND I LEARNED
A GREAT DEAL FROM HIM.
FOR ANOTHER, THAT PERIOD OF
MY LIFE WAS FULL OF GREAT
BEAUTY AND IT WAS FULL OF GREAT
PAIN.
FOR ALL MY FAMILY.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S
THE BEAUTY OF HUMAN EXISTENCE,
THAT THERE IS PAIN, THERE
IS STRUGGLE, THERE IS LOSS.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S COMING FOR
US IN THE END AND WE HAVE
TO MAKE MEANING OF THAT.
WE HAVE TO FACE IT.
AND MY THANKS AGAIN TO PATRICK
FOR LETTING ME TELL A STORY.
THANKS FOR STREAMING
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