Transcript for ABC News Live: Turkey agrees to let Finland and Sweden join NATO
GOOD MORNING I'M DIANE MACEDO.
THANKS FOR STREAMING WITH US.
TODAY ON ABC NEWS LIVE
PRESIDENT BIDEN'S MEETING WITH
ALLIES OVERSEAS.
WORKING TO CONFRONT WITH THE
HEAD OF NATO CALLS EUROPE'S
BIGGEST CRISIS SINCE WORLD WAR
II.
I'LL SPEAK WITH JOHN KIRBY FROM
THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL
ABOUT THE PRESIDENTS GOALS IN
MADRID AND WHAT'S AT STAKE.
ALSO AHEAD, NEW TESTIMONY FROM
THE JANUARY 6TH HEARINGS, A
FORMER TOP WHITE HOUSE AIDE
SAYS AN FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP
WANTED TO TRAVEL TO THE CAPITOL
ON JANUARY 6TH AND EVEN TRY TO
GRAB THE STEERING WHEEL OF HIS
VEHICLE AND LAUNCH A SECRET
SERVICE AGENT.
HEAR HOW THE SECRET SERVICE IS
NOW RESPONDING TO THAT.
PLUS WHICH HE SAYS ABOUT THE
DAYS LEADING UP TO THE RIOT AND
WHAT FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF MARK
MEADOWS KNEW BEFORE THE
INSURRECTION.
AND NEW DETAILS ON WHAT
HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICIALS
CALLED THE DEADLIEST MIGRANT
SMUGGLING INCIDENT IN U.S.
HISTORY.
51 PEOPLE ARE NOW DEAD.
WELL WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT THE
CONDITIONS INSIDE THE TRACTOR
TRAILER.
WE BEGIN WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN
ANNOUNCING A STRONGER MILITARY
PRESENCE IN EUROPE EXTENDING
TRIPPED APPOINTMENTS THERE AND
SENDING MORE MILITARY AID TO
UKRAINE.
THE PRESIDENT IS IN MADRID FOR
THE NATO LEADER SUMMIT AND HAS
SAID RUSSIA'S INVASION OF
UKRAINE QUOTE SHATTERED PEACE
IN EUROPE IN EVERY NORM SINCE
WORLD WAR II.
I WANT TO BRING A NATIONAL
SECURITY COUNCILS COORDINATOR
FOR STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS
JOHN KIRBY.
FOR MORE ON THIS.
JOHN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BEING HERE.
EXACTLY HOW MANY MORE U.S.
TROOPS WILL BE ADDED TO THE
100,000 ALREADY IN EUROPE AND
HOW SIGNIFICANT IS THIS
STRENGTH AND MILITARY PRESENCE?
>> AND THIS CHANGE THAT THE
PRESIDENT ANNOUNCED TODAY
REALLY SOLIDIFIES AND MAKES IN
SOME CASES PERMANENT SOME OF
THE INCREASES THAT WE'VE
ALREADY HAD.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT BEFORE THE
INVASION WE WERE AT 80,000
THROUGH SOME TEMPORARY SEARCH
DEPLOYMENT WE GOT TO ABOUT 100.
BUT WITH THE PRESIDENTS
ANNOUNCING TODAY WILL KEEP US
FOR THE SPHERE --
AT ABOUT 100,000 TROOPS BOTH ON
PERMANENT AND ROTATIONAL
ORDERS.
KEY TO THIS IS SOME PERMANENT
CHANGES LIKE TWO EXTRA
DESTROYERS NOW WILL BE BASED AT
A STAIN.
TWO FRT FIVE SQUADRONS ADVANCED
FIGHTERS ARE GONNA BE BASE IN
THE UK.
AND NOW A COMMAND POSTS OF A
HEADQUARTERS ELEMENT GROUND
HEADQUARTERS ELEMENT
PERMANENTLY BASED IN POLAND.
THAT'S A MAJOR MUSCLE MOVEMENT.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST
HAVEN'T DONE AT ALL IN RECENT
YEARS.
SO THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT FORCE
POSTURE CHANGES.
THEY ALSO COME WITH WHAT WE
CALL HEEL TO TOE ROTATIONAL
DEPLOYMENTS.
SO FOR INSTANCE, IN ARMENIA NOW
WILL MAINTAIN HEEL TO TOE
BRIGADE COMBAT TEAM GROUND
BRIGADE COMBAT TEAM DEPLOYMENTS
IN AND OUT OF ROMANIA AS WELL
AS SOME ADDITIONAL ROTATIONAL
DEPLOYMENTS IN THE BALTICS.
SO TAKEN ALL IN SOME, IT'S A
SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO OUR FORCE
POSTURE IN EUROPE AND AGAIN FOR
THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
ONE WAS 80,000 NOW WILL STAY AT
ABOUT 100,000.
>> AND WHAT'S THE ROLE OF THESE
TROOPS?
>> AGAIN IT COVERS THE WHOLE
REALM OF MILITARY CAPABILITIES.
THAT'S WHAT'S SO SIGNIFICANT
ABOUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT
ANNOUNCED.
IT'S NOT JUST AIR, IT, IT'S NOT
JUST GROUND, IT'S ALSO SEE
MARITIME.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
CAN MEET OUR ARTICLE FIVE
COMMITMENT TO NATO.
THAT IS AN ATTACK ON ONE IS AN
ATTACK ON ALL.
AND THAT MEANS WE'VE GOT TO BE
READY TO DEFEND NATO'S EASTERN
FLANK ACROSS ALL DIFFERENT
WARFARE CAPABILITIES.
SO IT'S GROUND ITS AIR IT SEE
ITS CYBER ITS SPACE AND THAT'S
WHERE WE'RE COMMITTED TO.
>> HOW REAL IS THE CONCERN THAT
THIS COULD COME TO THAT?
>> WE HOPE IT NEVER DOES COME
TO THAT BUT MR. PUTIN HAS
INVADED NOW A SOVEREIGN STATE
IN A COMPLETELY UNPROVOKED
FASHION.
AND HE HAS SHATTERED AS PERSON
BIDEN HAS SAID, SHATTERED THE
SECURITY ENVIRONMENT THAT
EXISTED IN EUROPE SO NOW WE
RECOGNIZE, THAT SECURITY
ENVIRONMENT IS PERMANENTLY NOW
CHANGED.
IT'S NOT CHANGING, IT'S NOT
THAT IT WILL CHANGE.
IT HAS CHANGED.
AND SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THE
THREAT THAT MR. PUTIN AND HIS
MILITARY POSES TO THE NATO
ALLIANCE SERIOUSLY.
WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY IMMINENT
FRONT OR ANY IMMINENT
INDICATION THAT HE INTENDS TO
ATTACK NATO TERRITORY.
OR WATCHING THIS VERY VERY
CLOSELY.
BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE READY.
OUR ALLIES ARE DEPENDING ON US
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE CAN ANSWER THAT CALL.
>> SHE SEVEN LEADERS ISSUED A
STATEMENT CALLING THE AIRSTRIKE
ON A SHOPPING MALL IN UKRAINE A
WAR CRIME.
AND SAYING THOSE RESPONSIBLE
WOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, WHY
HAVEN'T WE HEARD DIRECTLY FROM
THE PRESIDENT ABOUT THIS?
>> WE HAVE HEARD DIRECTLY FROM
PRESIDENT BIDEN ABOUT THE WAR
CRIMES THAT THE RUSSIAN FORCES
HAVE BEEN COMMITTING IN
UKRAINE.
FOR THESE MANY MONTHS.
AND THE UNITED STATES IS GOING
TO WORK HARD WITH INTERNATIONAL
COMMUNITIES.
YOU SAW MERRICK GARLAND WAS
JUST OVER IN UKRAINE NOT LONG
AGO.
HELPING WORK WITH AUTHORITIES
ARE INVESTIGATING THESE WAR
CRIMES.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE UNITED
STATES IS PARTICIPATING IN
PROVIDING EVIDENCE TO THESE
INTERNATIONAL BODIES.
SO THAT MR. PUTIN AND RUSSIA
CAN BE PROPERLY HELD
ACCOUNTABLE AND THE RIGHT TIME.
>> JOHN JUST LAST WEEK THE
BIDEN MINISTRATION AUTHORIZED
400 AND $50 MILLION IN MILITARY
AID PACKAGES FOR UKRAINE.
ALONG WITH THE U.S. FINALIZING
A PURCHASE FOR AN ADVANCED
MISSILE SYSTEM FOR UKRAINE'S
DEFENSE.
WHAT IMPACT DO YOU THINK THAT
COULD HAVE ON THE WAR?
>> WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO
PROVIDE AID TO UKRAINE THAT IS
RELEVANT TO THE FIGHT THAT
THEY'RE IN.
AND RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE IN THIS
BATTLE FOR THE DONBAS WHICH HAS
BEEN HEAVILY RELIANT ON WHAT WE
CALL LONG RANGE FIRES.
ARTILLERY, ARTILLERY AND ROCKET
SYSTEMS THAT CAN GIVE THE
UKRAINIANS SOME DISTANCE FROM
THE RUSSIAN FORCES THAT THEY'RE
FACING.
THAT GIVES THEM NOT JUST
DISTANCE IT GIVES THEM TIME.
TIME TO REACT, TIME TO BETTER
DEFEND.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SOME
PEACE ADVANCE ROCKETS ASSUMES
IN.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE
ADDITIONAL ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM
THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS
FROM OTHER ALLIES AND PARTNERS
TO PROVIDE UKRAINE THE KINDS OF
CAPABILITIES THEY NEED IN THIS
PARTICULAR FIGHT.
BUT WE WANT TO METER THIS OUT
AS APPROPRIATE TO THE FIGHT
THAT THEY'RE IN.
BECAUSE WAR CHANGES WAR
EVOLVES.
THREE MONTHS AGO EVERYBODY WAS
TALKING ABOUT JAVELIN ANTI TANK
MISSILES AND STINGER SURFACE TO
AIR SHORTER FILE MISSILES
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE NEED THAT
WAS THE THREAT THAT THE
UKRAINIANS WERE FACING.
FROM TANKS AND FROM AIRCRAFT.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT FIGHT NOW.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
STAYING RELEVANT TO THE FIGHT.
>> AND TURKEY HAS NOW SIGNED AN
AGREEMENT TO SUPPORT FINLAND
AND SWEDEN'S BIDS TO BECOME
MEMBERS OF NATO.
WHAT MADE TURKEY SIGN ON NOW
AND WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE
ALLIANCE?
>> THE PRESIDENT --
WERE OBVIOUSLY GRATEFUL AND
WELCOMED THE FACT THAT THESE
THREE NATIONS WERE ABLE TO
RESOLVE THE DIFFERENCES AND
PAVE THE WAY FOR FINLAND AND
SWEDEN TO BECOME NATO MEMBERS,
THESE ARE ADVANCED MILITARIES
THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WORKING
WITH.
VERY INTEROPERABLE, THEY WILL
LEND INCREDIBLE DEFENSIVE
CAPABILITIES TO THE ALLIANCE.
BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS, OVER
ISSUES LIKE AN EMBARGO ON ARMS
AND TERRORISM BUT AGAIN, I
THINK MR. --
THE LEADERS OF SWEDEN AND
FINLAND TALK ABOUT THAT.
PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS VERY MUCH
IN FAVOR OF THIS EXPANSION OF
NATO.
HE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH
PRESIDENT ERDOGAN IS TODAY.
URGING MR. ERDOGAN TO COME TO
CLOSURE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE
ON THESE ISSUES SO THAT WE
COULD GET TO THE POINT WE ARE
WITH THIS NATO SUMMIT.
THAT WAY, WE'RE NOW ABLE TO
MOVE FORWARD ON THAT PROCESS
FOR BOTH COUNTRIES.
>> JOHN I WANT TO SHIFT GEARS A
LITTLE BIT OF --
THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNING
ROE V. WADE HAS LED TO
QUESTIONS OF WARTIME SERVICE
MEMBERS STATION IN STATES THAT
BAN ABORTION.
SOME ARE SAYING THEY SHOULD BE
GIVEN THE OPTION TO RELOCATE.
WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE TO
SERVICE MEMBERS OR THEIR FAMILY
MEMBERS IN THOSE STATES TO
TERMINATE A PREGNANCY?
>> THERE ARE EXISTING D.O.D.
POLICIES ABOUT ABORTION AND
THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS ON THAT.
D.O.D. POLICY IN REGULATIONS ON
HOW AND WHEN THEY CAN BE DONE.
BUT I KNOW THAT THE DEPARTMENT
OF DEFENSE IS LOOKING AT THIS
NOW MUCH MORE CAREFULLY AFTER
THE DECISION ON DOBBS AND THEY
ARE EXAMINING OR KIND OF
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES NEED TO
CHANGE GOING FORWARD.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF
THE PROCESS.
>> JOHN KIRBY WE APPRECIATE
TIME TODAY.
NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL
COORDINATED FOR STRATEGIC
COMMUNICATIONS.
THANKS AGAIN, JOHN WE
APPRECIATE IT.
>> MY PLEASURE, THANK YOU.
>> AND THE FAMILY OF ONE OF THE
11 WOMAN CAPTURED IN UKRAINE
SAYS THE U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT
HAS SPOKEN TO HIM AND HE IS
DOING QUOTE OKAY.
THE TWO AMERICANS WERE TAKEN BY
RUSSIAN FORCES DURING A BATTLE
NORTH OF KHARKIV EARLIER THIS
MONTH.
MEANWHILE, PRESIDENT BIDEN SAYS
THE U.S. WILL INCREASE ITS
MILITARY PRESENCE IN EUROPE
ESTABLISHING A PERMANENT
HEADQUARTERS IN POLAND.
FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT TOM SOUPY
BURGEONING LIVE NOW FROM KYIV,
UKRAINE.
WITH MORE ON THIS.
TOM, HOW SIGNIFICANT IS THIS
MOVE BY PRESIDENT BIDEN AND
WHAT IMPACT COULD IT HAVE ON
THE WAR?
>> HUGELY SIGNIFICANT, DIANE.
WE'RE SEEING A RAMPING UP OF
THE U.S. MILITARY PRESENCE
ACROSS EUROPE.
THIS IS LESS ABOUT IMPACTING
THE WAR DIRECTLY HERE, IT MIGHT
HELP THE U.S. TRAIN UKRAINIAN
FORCES IN NEIGHBORING
COUNTRIES.
BUT MORE, IT'S REALLY ABOUT
DETERRING RUSSIA DETERRING
RUSSIA FROM TAKING ACTION
AGAINST NATO MEMBER STATES IN
EUROPE.
PARTICULARLY THE BALTICS.
WE'LL SEE MORE U.S. TROOPS
THERE.
THAT ANALYSTS BELIEVE IS THE
BIGGEST THREAT COUNTRIES LIKE
LITHUANIA, ZELENSKYY SAYING IN
HIS SPEECH TO THE NATO SUMMIT
TODAY THAT REALLY DOSES OF
COUNTRIES ARE IN RUSSIA'S
CROSSHAIRS TO.
AND THAT WAS HIS PITCH TO THE
NATO SUMMIT FOR MORE SUPPORT,
MORE WEAPONS, MORE FINANCIAL
SUPPORT.
HE WANTS FIVE BILLION DOLLARS
IN THE U.S. AND ITS ALLIES
EVERY MONTH.
HE SAYS THE SOVEREIGNTY OF
INDEPENDENT EUROPEAN STATES IS
AT STAKE.
>> TOM, YESTERDAY --
JANICE OLDENBURG CALLED THE WAR
IN UKRAINE THE MOST SERIOUS
SECURITY CRISIS EUROPE HAS
FACED SINCE WORLD WAR II.
IS THERE AN AND INSIGHT, WHAT'S
THE LATEST ON NEGOTIATIONS
BETWEEN UKRAINE AND RUSSIA?
>> THEY'RE LIMITED.
AND I THINK THIS IS WHEN WE SAY
TO PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY DON'T
KNOW UKRAINE THAT WELL.
IT'S THAT THERE IS A LOT OF
TALK IN CAPITALS LIKE PARIS
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A
DIPLOMATIC SOLUTION CAN BE
NEGOTIATED AT THIS POINT.
WE'VE HEARD THE WORD FROM
PRISON MACRON RECENTLY TALKING
ABOUT WHETHER THERE IS A
COMPROMISE THAT MIGHT BE
AVAILABLE AT SOME POINT.
DESPITE THEIR SOLID SUPPORT FOR
UKRAINE.
AND THE REALITY IS, THE
UKRAINIANS RIGHT NOW, UKRAINIAN
OFFICIALS SAY THIS PUBLICLY TO.
IS THAT THEY REALLY DON'T SEE A
WAY OUT OF THIS AT THE MOMENT
THROUGH THE POLICY.
YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THAT
RUSSIA STARTED A WAR IN THE
EAST OF UKRAINE BY A PROXIES A
YEARS AGO.
THE UKRAINIANS AND WENT INTO
VERY CONTRACTED AND PROLONGED
GAUTHIER SHUNS WITH THE
RUSSIANS WHICH WERE CALLED THE
MINSK NEGOTIATIONS AND IT
ABSOLUTELY LEAD TO NOTHING.
ACTUALLY, IT LED TO THE
INVASION THAT WE SAW BACK IN
FEBRUARY AND THE DESTRUCTION
WHICH RUSSIA'S INVASION IS
BRINGING TO THE COUNTRY RIGHT
NOW.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO APPETITE
HERE IN KYIV REALLY FOR ANY
KIND DIPLOMATIC SOLUTION RIGHT
NOW.
THEY SAY, AND THEY PUSH THIS TO
ZELENSKYY TO THE NATO SUMMIT
TODAY, THEY SAY RUSSIA CAN ONLY
BE DEFEATED ON THE BATTLEFIELD.
>> AND TOM, WHAT MORE DO WE
KNOW ABOUT THE CONVERSATION THE
STATE DEPARTMENT HAD WITH ALEX
DRUEKE, ONE OF THE AMERICANS
CAPTURED IN UKRAINE?
WHILE HE WAS VOLUNTEERING WITH
UKRAINIAN FORCES.
>> WE'RE LEARNING THIS DIANE,
IN AN INTERVIEW WITH HIS MOTHER
AND HIS AUNT.
GIVEN TO ABC NEWS.
EFFECTIVELY, THEY'RE SAYING
THAT THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THAT
ALEX ROOKIE IS BEING TREATED
HUMANELY BY HIS CAPTORS.
THAT HE IS IN A GOOD STATE,
HEALTHWISE.
AND THEY WERE ABLE TO ALSO PASS
A MESSAGE TO HIM.
OFFICIALLY WE'RE STILL GETTING
FEW DETAILS ABOUT WHETHER THERE
IS ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER
OR NOT HE CAN BE RELEASED AT
ANY POINT.
AND SO I GUESS FOR, NOW WE'RE
IN THE DARK ABOUT THAT.
>> TOM SOUPY BIRDS IN KYIV
UKRAINE, WE APPRECIATE IT TOM.
THANK YOU.
AND A FORMER AIDE TO DONALD
TRUMP'S CHIEF OF STAFF HAS
DELIVERED A STUNNING NEW
TESTIMONY AT THE JANUARY SIX
COMMITTEE HEARINGS.
CASSIDY HUTCHISON DESCRIBED
AMONG OTHER THINGS THE
PRESIDENT'S BEHAVIOR ON JANUARY
6TH SAYING SHE WAS TOLD THE
PRESIDENT WANTED TO GO TO THE
CAPITOL SO BADLY, HE TRIED TO
GRAB THE STEERING WHEEL OF HIS
VEHICLE AND LUNGED AT A SECRET
SERVICE AGENT WHEN HIS SECURITY
DETAIL REFUSED TO TAKE HIM
THERE.
NOW THE SECRET SERVICE IS
RESPONDING AT FORMER PRESIDENT
TRUMP HIMSELF IS PUSHING BACK
ON HUTCHINSON'S TESTIMONY.
SENIOR WHITE HOUSE
CORRESPONDENT MARY BRUCE HAS
MORE ON THAT TESTIMONY.
AND WHAT HUTCHINSON SAYS
HAPPENED IN THE DAYS LEADING UP
TO JANUARY 6TH.
>> UNDER OATH, CASSIDY
HUTCHINSON, A TOP WHITE HOUSE
AIDE PAINTED A CHILLING
PICTURE.
DETAILING HOW THE PRESIDENT
WANTED TO GO TO THE CAPITOL
HIMSELF ON JANUARY 6TH.
SOMETHING SHE SAID SHE LEARNED
FROM TRUMP'S LAWYER, RUDY
GIULIANI, FOUR DAYS BEFORE THE
ATTACK.
>> HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID
SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF
CASTS, ARE YOU EXCITED FOR THE
SIXTH?
IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT DAY.
>> CONFUSED, SHE WENT AND HAD
TALKS WITH HER BOSS, CHIEF OF
STAFF MARK MEADOWS.
>> HE DIDN'T LOOK AT FROM HIS
PHONE AND SAID SOMETHING TO BE
EFFECT OF THERE IS A LOT GOING
ON, CASTS, I DON'T KNOW, THINGS
MAKE A REAL REAL BAD ON JANUARY
6TH.
>> HUTCHINSON SAYS WE'LL
MEADOWS ACKNOWLEDGE SOMETHING
WAS WRONG HE DID NOTHING TO
STOP IT.
EVEN ONE ON THE MORNING OF
JANUARY SIX THE WHITE HOUSE
LEARNED THAT SOME TRUMP
SUPPORTERS WERE ARMED.
>> AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARED TO
DELIVER HIS REMARKS, HUTCHINSON
WAS BACKSTAGE.
SHE SAYS TRUMP WAS ANGRY THAT
MORE OF THE CROWD WASN'T BEING
ALLOWED INTO THE SECURE AREA.
SHE SAID TRUMP DEMANDED THAT
THE SECRET SERVICE REMOVE THE
METAL DETECTORS BECAUSE HE
WASN'T THE TARGET.
>> I OVERHEARD THE PRESIDENT'S
SOME OF THE EFFECT OF, I DON'T
EFFING CARE THAT THEY HAVE
WEAPONS, THEY'RE NOT HERE TO
HURT ME, TAKE THE EFFING MEGS
AWAY.
>> THE PRESIDENT TELLING THE
CROWD HE WOULD MARCH WITH THEM.
>> WE'RE GOING TO WALK DOWN AND
I'LL BE THERE WITH YOU.
>> SOMETHING THE SECRET SERVICE
AND WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL PAT
CIPOLLONE INSISTED TRUMP COULD
NOT DO.
>> MR. CIPOLLONE SAID SOMETHING
TO THE EFFECT OF PLEASE MAKE
SURE WE DON'T GO UP TO THE
CAPITOL, CASSIDY.
KEEP IN TOUCH WITH ME.
WE'RE GOING TO GET CHARGED WITH
EVERY CRIME IMAGINABLE IF WE
MAKE THAT MOVEMENT HAPPEN.
>> SHE SAYS THE PRESIDENT
WOULDN'T HEAR IT.
HUTCHISON SAYS LEAGUE SECRET
SERVICE AGENT, ROBERT ANGLE,
REFUSED.
SAYING IT WASN'T SAFE.
HUTCHINSON SAYS SHE SAW ANGELA
AND DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TONY
ORNADO SHORTLY AFTER THEY
RETURN TO THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> PRESIDENTS ESTIMATED EFFECT
OF, I AM THE EFFING PRESIDENT,
TAKE ME UP TO THE CAPITOL NOW.
TO WHICH BOBBY RESPONDED SIR,
WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE WEST
WING.
THE PRESIDENT REACHED UP
TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE
VEHICLE TO GRAB AT THE STEERING
WHEEL.
MR. ENGEL GRABBED HIS ARM.
SAID SIR, YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR
HAND OFF THE STEERING WHEEL.
>> HUTCHISON ALSO ADDED INTO
THE DAYS AFTER THE ATTACK, MARK
MEADOWS WAS AMONG THOSE SEEKING
A PRESIDENTIAL PARDON RELATED
TO JANUARY 6TH.
AND WE ARE NOW HEARING FROM
OTHER MEMBERS OF TRUMP'S INNER
CIRCLE PUSHING BACK AGAINST
OTHER PARTS OF HUTCHINSON'S
TESTIMONY, INCLUDING PUSHBACK
FROM A FORMER WHITE HOUSE
LAWYER UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP.
AND AS FOR THE PRESIDENT
HIMSELF, HE IS ALSO QUESTIONING
CALLING INTO QUESTION OTHER
PARTS OF HUTCHINSON'S
TESTIMONY.
DISPUTING PORTIONS OF HER
ACCOUNT.
HE RESPONDED WITH A FLURRY OF
ONLINE POSTS IN REALTIME, DIANE,
IT'S CLEAR THE FORMER PRESIDENT
IS PAYING VERY CLOSE ATTENTION
HERE.
>> HE SURE IS.
MARY BRUCE, THANK YOU.
AND THE DEATH TOLL HAS RISEN TO
51 IN WHAT HOMELAND SECURITY
CALLS THE DEADLIEST HUMAN
SMUGGLING CASE IN U.S. HISTORY.
MIGRANTS WERE DISCOVERED
ABANDONED IN A TRACTOR TRAILER
IN THE BRUTAL TEXAS HEAT.
INVESTIGATORS SAY THE ALLEGED
SMUGGLER ABANDONED THE TRUCK ON
A REMOTE ROAD TO GIVE HIMSELF
MORE TIME TO GET AWAY.
CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT
MET GOVERNMENT HAS THE LATEST
FROM SAN ANTONIO.
>> FIRST RESPONDERS DESCRIBING
A SEMI TRUCK FULL OF HORROR.
>> THE HEAT WAS TORRENTIAL.
THERE WAS NO AIR.
THERE WAS NO WATER.
THEY SUFFERED, THEY LOST
CONSCIOUSNESS AND THEN THEY
ENDED UP DYING.
>> OFFICIALS SAY DOZENS OF
MIGRANTS IN THAT SEMI ON A
DESOLATE ROAD IN SOUTHWEST SAN
ANTONIO.
AROUND 5:31 PM, A WORKER WHO
CRIES FOR HELP INSIDE AND
CALLED 9-1-1.
SAYING THE DRIVER HAD FLED.
6 PM THE FIRST RESPONDERS
ARRIVED.
>> PRIORITY ONE, I'M COUNTING
RIGHT NOW THAT ARE 12 THAT ARE
BREATHING, WE'RE TRYING TO
ATTEMPT --
>> INSIDE, MUCH HOTTER.
>> HOW CLOSE TO DEATH WHERE
THESE PATIENTS?
>> VERY CLOSE.
THEY'RE EXTREMELY CRITICAL.
THEY NEEDED IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY
MEDICAL CARE.
>> BUT THE DEATH TOLL KEPT
RISING.
>> THE OFFICERS HAD TO SEPARATE
SOME OF THE DECEASED, TRYING TO
FIND WHO MIGHT BE STILL ALIVE.
>> ULTIMATELY, 51 DIED IN WHAT
OFFICIALS CALLED THE DEADLIEST
MIGRANT SMUGGLING INCIDENT IN
U.S. HISTORY.
AND THIS MORNING FIRST WAS
PONDEROUS STRUCK --
STARTLING TO SHAKE WHAT THEY
SAW.
>> I THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY WENT
THROUGH, WITH THOSE DOORS
CLOSED.
I THINK ABOUT THE REST OF THE
TOOK.
I THINK ABOUT PEOPLE BEING
TREATED WORSE THAN ANIMALS.
>> DIANE, SO HARD FOR THOSE
FIRST RESPONDERS WE SPOKE TO TO
SHAKE THE IMAGES THEY SAW.
HERE OF THE HORROR AND THE
CRUELTY TO PEOPLE JUST TRYING
TO FIND A BETTER LIFE IN THE
U.S..
OFFICIALS TELL US THEY HAVE
THREE SUSPECTS IN CUSTODY.
NOW THE GRIM TASK BEGINS OF
IDENTIFYING THE VICTIMS.
THAT COULD TAKE DAYS.
WE'RE TOLD THERE FOR MEXICO,
GUATEMALA AND HONDURAS.
OFFICIALS ALSO ARE WARNING THAT
WITH TEMPERATURES RISING AND
THE VOLUME OF MIGRANTS
INCREASING ACROSS THE SOUTHWEST
BORDER HERE, WE COULD SEE MORE
DEADLY INCIDENTS LIKE THIS THIS
SUMMER.
DIANE.
>> MATT GUTMAN, THANK YOU IN.
AT LEAST FOUR PEOPLE ARE NOW
DEAD AFTER AN AMTRAK TRAIN
DERAILED IN MISSOURI ON MONDAY.
ARE THE CROSSING WHERE THE
TRAIN HIT A DUMP TRUCK WAS NOT
EQUIPPED TO ALLOW DRIVERS TO AN
APPROACHING TRAIN.
BUT OFFICIALS WHO A NATIONAL
TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD SAY
THEY MADE NUMEROUS
RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAKE THOSE
CROSSINGS SAFER.
ONE DATING ALL THE WAY BACK TO
1998.
OUR TRANSPORTATION
CORRESPONDENT GEO BENITEZ IS
INDEPENDENT, MISSOURI, WITH THE
LATEST.
>> THE DEATH TOLL RISING TO
FOUR AS FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS
FIGURE OUT HOW IT AMTRAK TRAIN
COLLIDED WITH THE DUMP TRUCK IN
CENTRAL MISSOURI.
AND HE HAS --
JENNIFER --
THE CROSSING HAD NO CROSS ARMS,
BELLS OR LIGHTS.
LIKE HALF THE CROSSINGS IN THE
U.S..
>> IT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE THE
SAME TRAGEDY COULD HAPPEN AT
ANY ONE OF THOSE CROSSINGS.
>> THE AMTRAK WAS TRAVELING
FROM LA TO CHICAGO.
NEARLY 300 PEOPLE ON BOARD.
WHEN IT STRUCK THE TRUCK WHICH
THE IMTIAZ --
TRANSPORTING AGGREGATE TO AN
ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS
PROJECT.
>> WELL YOU ARE SEEING RIGHT
NOW IS PERHAPS THE TRUCK WAS IN
MOTION IT WAS NOT STOP ON THE
TRACKS.
>> IT WAS IN MOTION.
THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THAT DRIVER WAS KILLED ALONG
WITH THREE PASSENGERS.
MORE THAN 150 INJURED.
BUT IN TRAGEDY SIGNS OF
HEROISM.
16 MEMBERS OF A WISCONSIN-BASED
BOOK HOW TROOP SPRANG INTO
ACTION.
>> I'M PROUD OF THEM.
ONE SCOUT WRAPPED HIS HAND,
TOOK A SHORT, OF HAD TO BRING
SOMEONE WHO'S TO TAKE --
ANOTHER SCOURED AND COMFORTED
THE DRIVER OF THE TRUCK THAT
WAS HIT.
TRY TO STABILIZE HIM.
THAT SCOUT IS PRETTY SHOOK.
UP >> THE CROSSING WHERE THIS
HAPPENED, A CONCERN FOR LOCALS
FOR YEARS.
LOCAL FARMER MIKE SPENCER
POSTING THIS VIDEO IS JUST TWO
WEEKS AGO.
SHOWING HOW DANGEROUS IT CAN BE.
>> IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE THE
TRAINS UNTIL YOU GET ALMOST UP
ON THE TRACK.
IT WAS PRETTY PREDICTABLE.
>> AND THE NTSB FINDING I
WOULD'VE COST $400,000 CROSSED
ARMS --
THE NTSB CHAIR TOLD ME WOULD
BEEN WORTH IT.
DIANE.
>> SHE OPENING TEST, THANK YOU.
COMING UP, NEW DETAILS ON THE
LEGAL BATTLES RAMPING UP AFTER
THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED
ROE V. WADE.
HOW ONE STATE IS QUICKLY
BECOMING A SAFE HAVEN FOR WOMEN
SEEKING ABORTIONS AFTER THE
BREAK.
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WELCOME BACK.
WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS NOW.
THE U.S. SUPREME COURT JUST
WIDENED THE POWER OF STATES
OVER NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES,
HANDING A VICTORY TO REPUBLICAN
OFFICIALS IN THE STATE OF
OKLAHOMA.
THE COURT RULED 5 TO 4 IN FAVOR
OF OKLAHOMA OVER THE STATES
EFFORTS TO PROSECUTE VICTOR
CASTRO QUOTA, A NON NATIVE
AMERICAN CONVICTED OF CHILD
NEGLECT IN THE CRIME COMMITTED
AGAINST HIS FIVE-YEAR-OLD
NATIVE AMERICAN STEPDAUGHTER.
ON THE CHEROKEE NATION
RESERVATION.
AND THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS
UNDER PRESSURE TO TAKE ACTION
FOLLOWING THE SUPREME COURT'S
RULING THAT OVERTURNED ROE V.
WADE.
ADMINISTRATION SAYS IT WILL
PROTECT ABORTION RIGHTS
INCLUDING INCREASING ACCESS TO
MEDICATION ABORTIONS BUT
OFFERED VERY FEW SPECIFICS,
ABC'S CONGRESSIONAL
CORRESPONDENT RACHEL SCOTT HAS
THE LATEST.
>> CONFUSION AND UNCERTAINTY AS
THE FINAL --
PLAYS OUT STATE BY STATE.
>> RIGHT NOW WE'RE ANTICIPATING
THAT SERVICES WILL BE ABLE TO
BE CONTINUED SUBJECT TO THE
CONSTANT BACK AND FORTH OF
LITIGATION.
>> ABORTION BANS ARE BEING
CHALLENGED IN COURT.
JUDGES IN LOUISIANA AT TEXAS
AND UTAH ALLOWING SOME
ABORTIONS TO RESUME FOR NOW.
>> WE WILL BE CALLING BACK THE
WOMEN WHO WE HAD TO TURN AWAY
ON SATURDAY.
SO THAT THEY CAN COME BACK AND
GET THEIR PROCEDURE IF THEY
HAVEN'T MADE OTHER
ARRANGEMENTS.
>> THE PATCHWORK OF ABORTION
ACCESS CAUSING WHIPLASH FOR
ADVOCATES ON BOTH SIDES.
>> NOBODY BELIEVED THAT THE
FIGHT WAS OVER THAT OVERTURNING
ROE ISN'T AND ALL.
>> IN TOTAL AT LEAST 30 STATES
--
OVER A DOZEN OTHERS ARE LIKELY
TO TAKE ACTION IN THE COMING
WEEKS AND MONTHS.
WE MET DR. AMY WHITAKER AT A
CLINIC IN --
ILLINOIS.
THIS STATE HAS QUICKLY BECOME A
SAFE HAVEN FOR LEGAL ABORTION.
AS SURROUNDING STATES MOVE TO
BLOCK ABORTION ACCESS.
>> IT'S BEEN A DIFFICULT COUPLE
OF DAYS.
I'M NOT GOING TO SUGARCOAT IT.
IT IS HEARTBREAKING TO SEE
PATIENTS WHO HAD TO TRAVEL SO
FAR TO GET BASIC HEALTH CARE.
>> STUDIES SHOW THE STATE WITH
THE MOST RESTRICTIVE ABORTION
LAWS HAVE INVESTED THE LEAST IN
POLICIES AND PROGRAMS FOR WOMEN
AND CHILDREN.
>> THE IDEA THAT YOU WOULD MAKE
A COMPLETE ABORTION BAN WITHOUT
HAVING THAT INVESTMENT, WITHOUT
HAVING UNIVERSAL ACCESS TO FREE
COMPREHENSIVE QUALITY PRENATAL
CARE.
WITHOUT HAVING ACCESS TO FUNDED
CHILDCARE.
TO ME, IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
>> THEY, AND THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION SAYS THAT EVERY
OPTION IS ON THE TABLE WHEN IT
COMES TO PROTECTING ACCESS TO
ABORTION.
INCLUDING EXPANDING ACCESS TO
MEDICATION ABORTION.
BUT THEY OFFER A FEW SPECIFICS
AND CLEARLY THE LANDSCAPE IS
CHANGING QUICKLY STATE BY
STATE.
DIANE.
>> RACHEL SCOTT THANK YOU.
COMING UP, THE RESULTS ARE IN
FROM THE LATEST PRIMARY
ELECTIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT
COLORADO WERE REPUBLICANS
REJECTED TWO PROMINENT
CANDIDATES WHO BACKED FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS FALSE
CLAIMS ABOUT ELECTION FRAUD.
WE'RE INOKCASE PODCAST.
WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS.
WELCOME BACK RESULTS ERIN FROM
LAST NIGHT'S PRIMARY ELECTIONS
IN COLORADO, ILLINOIS, OKLAHOMA,
AND UTAH.
RUNOFFS IN MISSISSIPPI AND
SOUTH CAROLINA, AND A SPECIAL
ELECTION IN NEBRASKA.
IN COLORADO, FAR-RIGHT
CANDIDATES BOOSTED BY DEMOCRATS
IN THE HOPES OF GETTING AN
EASIER MATCHUP IN THE GENERAL
ELECTION, ACTUALLY LOST A MORE
MODERATE REPUBLICANS IN THE
PRIMARIES.
ABC'S REPORTER HAS THE LATEST
FROM DENVER.
HI SERENE.
>> DIANE, THE BIG STORY IS THAT
MODERATES ONE IN THE MAJOR
REPUBLICAN STATEWIDE RACES.
IN THE REPUBLICAN RACE FOR
SECRETARY OF STATE, THE
CANDIDATE WAS THE ELECTION
DENIER PROJECTED TO LOSE.
THE RACE FOR SENATE, THE
CANDIDATE WHO ATTENDED THE
JANUARY 6TH RALLY, PROJECTED TO
LOSE.
--
ABORTIONS, PROJECTED TO LOSE.
A DEMOCRATIC ALIGNED GROUPS
ACTUALLY BOOSTED THESE
FAR-RIGHT CANDIDATES, HOPING
THEY WOULD BE --
ANOTHER WILL NOT BE ABLE TO.
LAUREN BOEBERT IS THE PROJECTED
WINNER.
DEMOCRATS APPEAR TO HAVE A
STRATEGIC CROSSOVER VOTING IN
THAT DISTRICT.
BUT IT DID NOT WORK.
DIANE?
>> ALL RIGHT AND SERENE,
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